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Camden Town: Low Bridge Accident
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7238711.stm ************************************************** *********************** ** Six hurt as roof ripped from bus One person suffered serious head injuries. Pictu Stephen Reynolds Six people were injured when a double decker bus crashed into a bridge in north London. The bus had been diverted along Prince of Wales Road because of a major fire at Camden market on Saturday. A police spokesperson said one man suffered serious head injuries when the roof was pulled off the vehicle. The route 24 bus between Hampstead Heath and Pimlico normally goes through Camden High Street. Drivers have been asked to avoid the crash site. The crash happened near the junction with Talacre Road at about 0900 GMT. A Transport for London (TfL) spokesperson said buses had been using the route under the arched bridge safely for 24 hours before the crash happened. The bus was diverted because of road closures. Pictu Toby Koch He said: "The route is a recognised diversion route and drivers know to drive straight through the middle." Buses and overground rail services have been disrupted, and tickets are being accepted on London Underground. An investigation into the crash has been launched by TfL and the bus operator, London General. Saturday night's fire caused serious damage to the area's famous market. Storage buildings for the market and the nearby Hawley Arms pub were also damaged and local residents had to leave their homes. Police warned that main roads could remain closed for up to four days. ************************************************** *********************** ** -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
Camden Town: Low Bridge Accident
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Camden Town: Low Bridge Accident
On 11 Feb, 12:25, Ian Jelf wrote:
From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7238711.stm ************************************************** *********************** Six hurt as roof ripped from bus One person suffered serious head injuries. Pictu Stephen Reynolds Six people were injured when a double decker bus crashed into a bridge in north London. The bus had been diverted along Prince of Wales Road because of a major fire at Camden market on Saturday. A police spokesperson said one man suffered serious head injuries when the roof was pulled off the vehicle. The route 24 bus between Hampstead Heath and Pimlico normally goes through Camden High Street. Drivers have been asked to avoid the crash site. The crash happened near the junction with Talacre Road at about 0900 GMT. A Transport for London (TfL) spokesperson said buses had been using the route under the arched bridge safely for 24 hours before the crash happened. The bus was diverted because of road closures. He said: "The route is a recognised diversion route and drivers know to drive straight through the middle." Buses and overground rail services have been disrupted, and tickets are being accepted on London Underground. An investigation into the crash has been launched by TfL and the bus operator, London General. Saturday night's fire caused serious damage to the area's famous market. Storage buildings for the market and the nearby Hawley Arms pub were also damaged and local residents had to leave their homes. Police warned that main roads could remain closed for up to four days. ************************************************** *********************** -- Ian Jelf, MITG Blimey, that's nasty. My best wishes for the man who sustained serious head injuries, I hope he comes out of this OK in the end. The bridge hit carries the North London Line and is just south of Kentish Town West station. LO JourneyCheck doesn't show the NLL as being disrupted at present, so perhaps it was but is no longer. I wonder what the signage is like there - i.e. whether there are special signs telling bus drivers to ensure they drive in the middle of the road. |
Camden Town: Low Bridge Accident
Mizter T wrote:
Blimey, that's nasty. My best wishes for the man who sustained serious head injuries, I hope he comes out of this OK in the end. The bridge hit carries the North London Line and is just south of Kentish Town West station. LO JourneyCheck doesn't show the NLL as being disrupted at present, so perhaps it was but is no longer. I wonder what the signage is like there - i.e. whether there are special signs telling bus drivers to ensure they drive in the middle of the road. It looks fairly typical AFAICS. The white lines on the bridge brickwork are visible on the first BBC picture, extending either side of the (obscured) warning triangle which gives the height. Normally there are matching lines on the road surface, and I think that's one visible continuing under the bus. I'm not familiar with any special signs for bus drivers... Paul S |
Camden Town: Low Bridge Accident
Paul Scott wrote:
Mizter T wrote: I wonder what the signage is like there - i.e. whether there are special signs telling bus drivers to ensure they drive in the middle of the road. It looks fairly typical AFAICS. The white lines on the bridge brickwork are visible on the first BBC picture, extending either side of the (obscured) warning triangle which gives the height. Normally there are matching lines on the road surface, and I think that's one visible continuing under the bus. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...6923&encType=1 |
Camden Town: Low Bridge Accident
"Ian Jelf" wrote in message : : From : : : : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7238711.stm I've always been surprised something similar hasn't happened at Richmond Road, Olton. I always used to flinch slightly trying to get a Metrobus under that bridge..! Ivor |
Camden Town: Low Bridge Accident
In message , Helen Deborah
Vecht writes It's like 'Live and Let Die' all over again. Again. I have the Corgi model from that film, the only model bus where the upper deck comes off at the flick of a lever! -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
Camden Town: Low Bridge Accident
In message , Ivor Jones
writes "Ian Jelf" wrote in message : : From : : : : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7238711.stm I've always been surprised something similar hasn't happened at Richmond Road, Olton. I always used to flinch slightly trying to get a Metrobus under that bridge..! Though presumably not as much as your upper deck passengers! -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
Camden Town: Low Bridge Accident
On 11 Feb, 12:25, Ian Jelf wrote:
From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7238711.stm ************************************************** *********************** ** Six hurt as roof ripped from bus One person suffered serious head injuries. Pictu Stephen Reynolds Six people were injured when a double decker bus crashed into a bridge in north London. The bus had been diverted along Prince of Wales Road because of a major fire at Camden market on Saturday. A police spokesperson said one man suffered serious head injuries when the roof was pulled off the vehicle. Having been on the top deck of a bus that hit that very same bridge, with much less disastrous consequences, I consider myself extremely lucky. Haywain. |
Camden Town: Low Bridge Accident
"Ian Jelf" wrote in message : : In message , Ivor : : Jones writes : : : : : : : : : "Ian Jelf" wrote in : : : message : : : : : From : : : : : : : : : : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7238711.stm : : : : : : I've always been surprised something similar hasn't : : : happened at Richmond Road, Olton. I always used to : : : flinch slightly trying to get a Metrobus under that : : : bridge..! : : : : Though presumably not as much as your upper deck : : passengers! Indeed ;-) Ivor |
Camden Town: Low Bridge Accident
On 11 Feb, 16:06, Haywain wrote:
On 11 Feb, 12:25, Ian Jelf wrote: From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7238711.stm ************************************************** *********************** Six hurt as roof ripped from bus One person suffered serious head injuries. Pictu Stephen Reynolds Six people were injured when a double decker bus crashed into a bridge in north London. The bus had been diverted along Prince of Wales Road because of a major fire at Camden market on Saturday. A police spokesperson said one man suffered serious head injuries when the roof was pulled off the vehicle. Having been on the top deck of a bus that hit that very same bridge, with much less disastrous consequences, I consider myself extremely lucky. Haywain. May I ask whether that was recently, and whether the bus on a diversionary route, or was it some time ago when double deck buses regularly ran under the bridge? I note that the TfL spokesman in the BBC News story states that "The route is a recognised diversion route and drivers know to drive straight through the middle." I dare suggest that it might not remain a recognised diversion route for much longer. |
Camden Town: Low Bridge Accident
On 11 Feb, 13:28, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Mizter T wrote: Blimey, that's nasty. My best wishes for the man who sustained serious head injuries, I hope he comes out of this OK in the end. The bridge hit carries the North London Line and is just south of Kentish Town West station. LO JourneyCheck doesn't show the NLL as being disrupted at present, so perhaps it was but is no longer. I wonder what the signage is like there - i.e. whether there are special signs telling bus drivers to ensure they drive in the middle of the road. It looks fairly typical AFAICS. The white lines on the bridge brickwork are visible on the first BBC picture, extending either side of the (obscured) warning triangle which gives the height. Normally there are matching lines on the road surface, and I think that's one visible continuing under the bus. I'm not familiar with any special signs for bus drivers... Paul S The BBC News story now has a photo of a sign at the location, possibly on the bridge itself, which reads... ----- ARCH BRIDGE High vehicles used middle of road ----- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7238711.stm |
Camden Town: Low Bridge Accident
In message , at 14:05:22 on Mon,
11 Feb 2008, John Rowland remarked: The white lines on the bridge brickwork are visible on the first BBC picture, extending either side of the (obscured) warning triangle which gives the height. Normally there are matching lines on the road surface, and I think that's one visible continuing under the bus. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...6923&encType=1 The bus was heading from top to bottom in that picture. Rotate it through 180 degrees to see the white lines in bus driver view. -- Roland Perry |
Camden Town: Low Bridge Accident
On 11 Feb, 16:48, Mizter T wrote:
On 11 Feb, 16:06, Haywain wrote: On 11 Feb, 12:25, Ian Jelf wrote: From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7238711.stm ************************************************** *********************** Six hurt as roof ripped from bus One person suffered serious head injuries. Pictu Stephen Reynolds Six people were injured when a double decker bus crashed into a bridge in north London. The bus had been diverted along Prince of Wales Road because of a major fire at Camden market on Saturday. A police spokesperson said one man suffered serious head injuries when the roof was pulled off the vehicle. Having been on the top deck of a bus that hit that very same bridge, with much less disastrous consequences, I consider myself extremely lucky. Haywain. May I ask whether that was recently, and whether the bus on a diversionary route, or was it some time ago when double deck buses regularly ran under the bridge? It was in July 2006, on a London General bus doing a FCC rail replacement job. I was in the front left seat, top deck (or, 'nearest the brickwork'). It could quite easily have been me with serious head injuries, but it was, fortunately, only a glancing blow as the bus went through the bridge, and apart from being showered with a few shards of glass I was unhurt - although I will never take that seat on a bus again. Haywain |
Camden Town: Low Bridge Accident
"Mizter T" wrote in message ... "The route is a recognised diversion route and drivers know to drive straight through the middle." I dare suggest that it might not remain a recognised diversion route for much longer. Either that or they will insist on drivers that can read and obey signs. |
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