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Just Featured a man complaining about the noise on the North Circular, a
woman complaining about trams and a family whos garden got sucked in a hole by the CTRL works. CTRL won and featured Howard who was put infront of a video clip putting the award in a tunnel. -- To reply direct, Remove NOSPAM and Replace with 21fun For the latest News, Information and Photos check out http://www.railwaysonline.co.uk |
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"Joe Patrick" wrote in message ...
Just Featured a man complaining about the noise on the North Circular, a woman complaining about trams and a family whos garden got sucked in a hole by the CTRL works. CTRL won and featured Howard who was put infront of a video clip putting the award in a tunnel. Howard, all the show's producers, and the very concept of it could do with being put in a very long tunnel.... -- *** http://www.railwayscene.co.uk/ *** - updated 19 August Rich Mackin (rich-at-richmackin.co.uk) |
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Joe Patrick wrote:
Just Featured a man complaining about the noise on the North Circular, a woman complaining about trams and a family whos garden got sucked in a hole by the CTRL works. CTRL won and featured Howard who was put infront of a video clip putting the award in a tunnel. Er, worst what? Worst TV programme, it would seem. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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Er, worst what? Worst TV programme, it would seem.
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In message , Joe Patrick
writes Just Featured a man complaining about the noise on the North Circular, a woman complaining about trams and a family whos garden got sucked in a hole by the CTRL works. CTRL won and featured Howard who was put infront of a video clip putting the award in a tunnel. North Circular and trams were there before the people moved in. The woman with the trams said she didn't really think about the trams when she moved in. Like duh...... As for the CTRL............. I too would be a bit worried to see the earth open up and swallow my garden. Don't they check these things before they start digging huge holes? -- CJG |
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Joe Patrick wrote:
Just Featured a man complaining about the noise on the North Circular, a woman complaining about trams and a family whos garden got sucked in a hole by the CTRL works. CTRL won and featured Howard who was put infront of a video clip putting the award in a tunnel. Never understood this kind of wingeing ****e. I mean, you _know_ if you buy a house on the North Circular or a railway line that it's going to be noisy. And I'm sure the price paid also reflected this. -- Steve H http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 VW Golf GL Cabrio (carb broken) - Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 33 1.7ie BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # |
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"SteveH" wrote in message . ..
Joe Patrick wrote: Just Featured a man complaining about the noise on the North Circular, a woman complaining about trams and a family whos garden got sucked in a hole by the CTRL works. CTRL won and featured Howard who was put infront of a video clip putting the award in a tunnel. Never understood this kind of wingeing ****e. I mean, you _know_ if you buy a house on the North Circular or a railway line that it's going to be noisy. And I'm sure the price paid also reflected this. At the time the chap moved into the house by the North Circular, 41 years ago, it was just a regular street, so it's something that has happened while he's been living there. It's true about the woman who lived next to Metrolink, however, as it emerged during the "judging" that she knew full well the line was there when she moved - presumably the property price would reflect this. If you know what's there when you move somewhere, you've got no right to whinge about it - my parents have lived next to the ECML for 35 years and I've never once heard them complain about the traffic, as they were perfectly happy with it when they decided to buy the house. -- *** http://www.railwayscene.co.uk/ *** - updated 19 August Rich Mackin (rich-at-richmackin.co.uk) |
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Robin May, founder of International Boyism wrote:-
It was also different for the people affected by the Channel Tunnel Rail Link. The tunnel passed underneath their house and caused a massive hole the size of a house to appear in their back gardens. Not only did this ruin their gardens and put lives at risk (luckily no one was hurt, but if someone had been in their garden at the time then they'd have been in serious trouble) but it also caused structural damage to their houses. They had no reason to expect this would happen when they bought their houses and even if they'd known about the rail link, they still couldn't have expected that sort of thing to happen. Nobody, so far, has mentioned that there were apparently old wells at the back of the house and it was they which had caused the void into which the house almost fell. True it might not have happened if the CTRL machine hadn't been boring under the gardens but it would be nice if people would give ALL the facts occasionally !! Barry Emmott --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 20/08/03 |
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In article , Robin May
writes My thoughts exactly, and I have similar thoughts about people who buy houses under the Heathrow flightpath and then complain they get planes flying overhead. Although I think it is very different for the man living by the North Circular (which just so happens to be my email address) as in this case he'd bought the house when it was by a two lane single carriageway. Why different? According to your line of reasoning, one shouldn't complain about increasing interference unless you moved in 40-off years ago when it was a rural idyll. It's an argument I'll enjoy using twenty years from now when the fifth and sixth runways are being pushed through at Heathrow. -- Martin @ Strawberry Hill |
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I mean, you _know_ if you buy a house on the North Circular or a railway
line that it's going to be noisy. And I'm sure the price paid also reflected this. The Man's defence was that when he bought the house it was a 2 lane road -- To reply direct, Remove NOSPAM and Replace with 21fun For the latest News, Information and Photos check out http://www.railwaysonline.co.uk |
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"CJG" wrote in message ... In message , Joe Patrick writes Just Featured a man complaining about the noise on the North Circular, a woman complaining about trams and a family whos garden got sucked in a hole by the CTRL works. CTRL won and featured Howard who was put infront of a video clip putting the award in a tunnel. North Circular and trams were there before the people moved in. The chap on the north circular moved in 41 years ago when the road was narrow and quiet. MrBitsy. |
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"Robin May" wrote in message ... (SteveH) wrote the following in: snip I had no sympathy whatsoever for the woman living by the tram line though. She'd known about it when she bought it and gave a weak excuse along the lines of "I liked the garden and the size, and the trams have got louder since I bought the house". If you're worried about noise, don't buy a house next to a tram line! Pretty simple, I'd have thought. That is a bit harsh. Most of the noise she is experiencing is down to worn out track. If it was repaired, the noise would return to the levels when she purchased the property. MrBitsy. |
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"Barry Emmott" wrote
the following in: Nobody, so far, has mentioned that there were apparently old wells at the back of the house and it was they which had caused the void into which the house almost fell. True it might not have happened if the CTRL machine hadn't been boring under the gardens but it would be nice if people would give ALL the facts occasionally !! Barry Emmott Ah, I see. I would have given that fact if I'd been aware of it. I must have missed that part of the programme. -- message by Robin May, founder of International Boyism "Would Inspector Sands please go to the Operations Room immediately." Unofficially immune to hangovers. |
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"Rich Mackin" wrote in message
... At the time the chap moved into the house by the North Circular, 41 years ago, it was just a regular street The North Circular has not been a "Regular Street" for many years and certainly was not 41 years ago. You are talking about 1962 here. The M1 had been opened from Watford to Crick, with the M10 spur to St Albans. The level of traffic may not have been today's, but the road was a major traffic artery, and was the only realistic option to going through Central London (Which could often be quicker). -- Terry Harper, Web Co-ordinator, The Omnibus Society http://www.omnibussoc.org E-mail: URL: http://www.terry.harper.btinternet.co.uk/ |
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In article , MrBitsy raymondkeattch@
HATschofields.com writes The chap on the north circular moved in 41 years ago when the road was narrow and quiet. The NC wasn't quiet 41 years ago. Both the North and South Circulars have been famous for jams since at least WW2. (41 years ago I lived about a mile from the SS). -- "It used to be that what a writer did was type a bit and then stare out of the window a bit, type a bit, stare out of the window a bit. Networked computers make these two activities converge, because now the thing you type on and the window you stare out of are the same thing" - Douglas Adams 28/1/99. |
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"Robin May" wrote in message ... "Barry Emmott" wrote the following in: Nobody, so far, has mentioned that there were apparently old wells at the back of the house and it was they which had caused the void into which the house almost fell. True it might not have happened if the CTRL machine hadn't been boring under the gardens but it would be nice if people would give ALL the facts occasionally !! Barry Emmott Ah, I see. I would have given that fact if I'd been aware of it. I must have missed that part of the programme. -- I don't think that was mentioned in the programme. Andrew |
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:35:20 +0100, "Rich Mackin"
wrote: "SteveH" wrote in message . .. Joe Patrick wrote: Just Featured a man complaining about the noise on the North Circular, a woman complaining about trams and a family whos garden got sucked in a hole by the CTRL works. CTRL won and featured Howard who was put infront of a video clip putting the award in a tunnel. Never understood this kind of wingeing ****e. I mean, you _know_ if you buy a house on the North Circular or a railway line that it's going to be noisy. And I'm sure the price paid also reflected this. At the time the chap moved into the house by the North Circular, 41 years ago, it was just a regular street, so it's something that has happened while he's been living there. My parents went to visit relatives who lived on " *The* North Circular *Road " before the war. It's obvious a road given a "Proper Name" like that, as opposed to "Green Lane", say, was always destined to be a significant traffic artery, like "The Great North Road", or "The Western Avenue". I used the N.C.R. to get to work between Harrow Rd. and Muswell Hill in 1969 and FWIR is not significantly different now apart from some junction improvements squeezed in. DG |
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In article , derek
writes I used the N.C.R. to get to work between Harrow Rd. and Muswell Hill in 1969 and FWIR is not significantly different now apart from some junction improvements squeezed in. The bit from the M4 to the A1 is pretty much the same (including a stretch that's still single carriageway!), although there are some significant widenings on the eastern sections. Do we know where the complainant lives? -- "It used to be that what a writer did was type a bit and then stare out of the window a bit, type a bit, stare out of the window a bit. Networked computers make these two activities converge, because now the thing you type on and the window you stare out of are the same thing" - Douglas Adams 28/1/99. |
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:26:15 -0400, Roland Perry wrote:
Do we know where the complainant lives? From the small bit I saw I would say about he http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap...186898&A=Y&Z=1 David |
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In article , David Walters
writes Do we know where the complainant lives? From the small bit I saw I would say about he http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap...186898&A=Y&Z=1 Ha! Right by Staples Corner, which has been an infamous bottleneck since time began (and when the Staples in question was a furniture store, not an office equipment superstore). -- "It used to be that what a writer did was type a bit and then stare out of the window a bit, type a bit, stare out of the window a bit. Networked computers make these two activities converge, because now the thing you type on and the window you stare out of are the same thing" - Douglas Adams 28/1/99. |
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On 28 Aug 2003 22:11:38 GMT Robin May wrote:
} } I had no sympathy whatsoever for the woman living by the tram line } though. She'd known about it when she bought it and gave a weak excuse } along the lines of "I liked the garden and the size, and the trams have } got louder since I bought the house". If you're worried about noise, } don't buy a house next to a tram line! Pretty simple, I'd have thought. Like the chap who threatened to sue us because of the noise of our gate being used at night. Having moved into his warehouse conversion at however many thousend pounds you'd have hoped that he'd realise that there were implications to having a 24 hour business less than 10 yards away across the street. Matthew -- Záhid sharáb píné dé, masjid mein baith kar ya woh jagah batá dé jahán Khudá na ho. http://www.calmeilles.co.uk/ |
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"Matthew Malthouse" wrote in message .. . Like the chap who threatened to sue us because of the noise of our gate being used at night. Like the people moaning about light aircraft using an aerodrome built during WWII which predates most of the housing. It has been in continual use ever since which I know as I was born in one of the houses built immediately post-war. The occasional light aircraft going overhead was part of the sound of summer as a lad. Fair to say aircraft use has increased a little but the whingers seem to resent the fact some people choose to spend some of their disposable income flying around pointlessly rather than doing another pointless (in)activity that meets with their approval :-) Pete |
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Peter B wrote:
"Matthew Malthouse" wrote in message .. . Like the chap who threatened to sue us because of the noise of our gate being used at night. Like the people moaning about light aircraft using an aerodrome built during WWII which predates most of the housing. It has been in continual use ever since which I know as I was born in one of the houses built immediately post-war. The occasional light aircraft going overhead was part of the sound of summer as a lad. Fair to say aircraft use has increased a little but the whingers seem to resent the fact some people choose to spend some of their disposable income flying around pointlessly rather than doing another pointless (in)activity that meets with their approval :-) I'm told there are even people who object to others "talking" to each other via the internet. Don't see the problem myself. |
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David Walters wrote:
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:26:15 -0400, Roland Perry wrote: Do we know where the complainant lives? From the small bit I saw I would say about he http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap...186898&A=Y&Z=1 Which shows a position not too far from Brent Terrace, which was discussed a couple of weeks ago on uk.railway. IIRC there was a link to a map from pre-1920 in that thread, which showed the NC Road,whcih had just been built. When it was widened to the current 6 lanes, i have no idea,but I'm sure it was pre 1980. Alan. -- Change the 'minus' to 'plus' to reply by e-mail. http://www.dvatc.co.uk - Off-road Cycling in the North Midlands. |
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In article , David Walters writes Do we know where the complainant lives? From the small bit I saw I would say about he http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap...186898&A=Y&Z=1 Ha! Right by Staples Corner, which has been an infamous bottleneck since time began (and when the Staples in question was a furniture store, not an office equipment superstore). -- Do you know, I always wondered where the name of Staples Corner came from, I felt it couldn't be after the office equipment/stationery company, in spite of their presence. Andrew |
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In article , David Walters writes Do we know where the complainant lives? From the small bit I saw I would say about he http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap...186898&A=Y&Z=1 Ha! Right by Staples Corner, which has been an infamous bottleneck since time began (and when the Staples in question was a furniture store, not an office equipment superstore). -- Do you know, I always wondered where the name of Staples Corner came from, I felt it couldn't be after the office equipment/stationery company, in spite of their presence. Staples Mattresses had a good reputation. I think that's where they were made. -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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In article , Andrew
writes Do you know, I always wondered where the name of Staples Corner came from, I felt it couldn't be after the office equipment/stationery company, in spite of their presence. I'm not sure when the furniture store closed. Guessing wildly, perhaps 15 years ago? I'd be interested to know if anyone remembers which corner of the junction had the Staples store, and did it close before or after the E/W North Circular flyover was built. The office equipment store was their 2nd or 3rd in the UK [I forget if it or the Cambridge one opened earliest]. Oddly, the PC World across the road was also the third one of those (and before it was bought by Dixons), the first being Croydon, second at Lakeside. The Staples was built on the site of the former B&Q which was damaged by the IRA bombing of the flyover (Oct 8th 93), and without doing more research probably opened in the summer of 94 (that N/S flyover was still closed). B&Q didn't want to redevelop the site as they were only opening "B&Q Depots" at the time, and the site wasn't big enough. -- "now, the thing you type on and the window you stare out of are the same thing" |
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Roland Perry wrote: The office equipment store was their 2nd or 3rd in the UK [I forget if it or the Cambridge one opened earliest]. The office equipment store in Cambridge opened when I was a fourth year student; late 93 or early 94. Before that it was a DIY store - Homebase? Before they took over Texas and moved to the Beehive? I could be wrong. Gareth -- http://www.rumnies.com/ Gareth Marlow __________________________________________________ ____________________ C-3P0:I do believe they think I am some kind of god. |
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On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:01:13 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
In article , Andrew writes Do you know, I always wondered where the name of Staples Corner came from, I felt it couldn't be after the office equipment/stationery company, in spite of their presence. I'm not sure when the furniture store closed. Guessing wildly, perhaps 15 years ago? Staples Mattress moved from Staples Corner to Huntingdon in 1986 acording to http://www.myersbeds.co.uk/st_staplescorner.html I'd be interested to know if anyone remembers which corner of the junction had the Staples store, and did it close before or after the E/W North Circular flyover was built. The myersbeds page refers to a northbound flyover opening in 1976 but I assume that is the A5. David |
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On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:01:13 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote: The Staples was built on the site of the former B&Q which was damaged by the IRA bombing of the flyover (Oct 8th 93), and without doing more research probably opened in the summer of 94 (that N/S flyover was still closed). B&Q didn't want to redevelop the site as they were only opening "B&Q Depots" at the time, and the site wasn't big enough. I do believe that's where the original Staples was. Unless my mind is playing tricks with me vis-a-vis the current Staples. ISTR it had a biege facade and signeage mentioning "Beds" and "Furniture". I've definitely seen the Staples store, and AIR there were no commercial buildings on the NCR adjacent to the bottom end of the M1 extension, and on the opposite side of the Edgware Road to the Staples/BQ/Staples site there was just railway yards and depots behind hoardings. Unless I'm wrong. It was 1971! ;-) DG |
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In article , Gareth Marlow
writes The office equipment store in Cambridge opened when I was a fourth year student; late 93 or early 94. Sounds plausible. And probably makes it the second. Before that it was a DIY store - Homebase? Before they took over Texas and moved to the Beehive? I could be wrong. I wasn't around Cambridge in those days. Before that it was a Car Showroom (as was that row of shops in Jesus Lane). -- "now, the thing you type on and the window you stare out of are the same thing" |
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In article , derek
writes on the opposite side of the Edgware Road to the Staples/BQ/Staples site there was just railway yards and depots behind hoardings. That's where the PC World, and number of other "American Style" superstores and eateries are, today. -- "now, the thing you type on and the window you stare out of are the same thing" |
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Roland Perry wrote...
Andrew writes: Do you know, I always wondered where the name of Staples Corner came from, I felt it couldn't be after the office equipment/stationery company, in spite of their presence. No - Staples was a company making mattresses (and perhaps other bed components), wasn't it? If the Staples office-equipment chain now has a store there, I'm sure that's just a spooky coincidence. As for the mattress factory, that is exactly what the junction *was* named after. Many well-known London road-junctions were similarly named after business premises located there. Two other obvious examples are "Henly's Corner" (a mile or so east along the NCR from Staple's Corner, named after the car-dealers) and "Gardner's Corner" (the junction of Whitechapel Road and Commercial Road, named after the long-demolished department store which previously stood on the triangular site). I'm not sure when the furniture store closed. Guessing wildly, perhaps 15 years ago? I'd be interested to know if anyone remembers which corner of the junction had the Staples store, and did it close before or after the E/W North Circular flyover was built. I'm pretty sure the Staples mattress factory building was on the south-west side of the junction of A406/A5, that is on the left when proceeding north along the A5 or when proceeding west along the NCR. I don't know when it closed. It's so long since I passed that particular spot that I'm sure it was still standing when I was last there. |
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In article , JNugent
eeofspamserve.co.uk writes I'm pretty sure the Staples mattress factory building was on the south-west side of the junction of A406/A5, that is on the left when proceeding north along the A5 or when proceeding west along the NCR. That's where the current Staples (Office) store is. Ex B&Q. Spooky perhaps, but having been close to the business at the time they just chose an available site (because of the IRA bomb) at a high traffic location. -- "now, the thing you type on and the window you stare out of are the same thing" |
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"Matthew Malthouse" wrote in message .. . On 28 Aug 2003 22:11:38 GMT Robin May wrote: } } I had no sympathy whatsoever for the woman living by the tram line } though. She'd known about it when she bought it and gave a weak excuse } along the lines of "I liked the garden and the size, and the trams have } got louder since I bought the house". If you're worried about noise, } don't buy a house next to a tram line! Pretty simple, I'd have thought. Like the chap who threatened to sue us because of the noise of our gate being used at night. Having moved into his warehouse conversion at however many thousend pounds you'd have hoped that he'd realise that there were implications to having a 24 hour business less than 10 yards away across the street. What was the outcome? /john |
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derek wrote: I've definitely seen the Staples store, and AIR there were no commercial buildings on the NCR adjacent to the bottom end of the M1 extension, and on the opposite side of the Edgware Road to the Staples/BQ/Staples site there was just railway yards and depots behind hoardings. Unless I'm wrong. It was 1971! ;-) That's wot I recall FWIW. We had a parking yard for our trucks on land that is now part of the roundabout for the end of the M! (the initial version of the roundabout not the multiplex junction there is now. |
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On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:40:12 +0100 John Kenyon wrote:
} "Matthew Malthouse" wrote: } } Like the chap who threatened to sue us because of the noise of our gate } being used at night. } } Having moved into his warehouse conversion at however many thousend } pounds you'd have hoped that he'd realise that there were implications } to having a 24 hour business less than 10 yards away across the street. } } What was the outcome? I don't know. Matthew -- Záhid sharáb píné dé, masjid mein baith kar ya woh jagah batá dé jahán Khudá na ho. http://www.calmeilles.co.uk/ |
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Ian D Henden wrote:
Three of us set off in convoy. One went clockwise round M25, one went anticlockwise, I went straight on across London. Er ... how can you drive in convoy if you are going different routes? (Can't remember which coach got to Stanstead first) Well that's spoilt the story g -- Stevie D \\\\\ ///// Bringing dating agencies to the \\\\\\\__X__/////// common hedgehog since 2001 - "HedgeHugs" ___\\\\\\\'/ \'///////_____________________________________________ |
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"Stevie D" wrote in message ... Ian D Henden wrote: Three of us set off in convoy. One went clockwise round M25, one went anticlockwise, I went straight on across London. Er ... how can you drive in convoy if you are going different routes? They *set off* in convoy. They could've driven in convoy until they reached the M25, then went their separate ways. |
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