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http://www.cnplus.co.uk/News/2008/02...ertised.h tml quote East London Railway maintenance works advertised · Published: 18 February 2008 09:17 · Author: Alasdair Reisner London Underground has advertised the contract to look after the £800 million railway, which is currently being built by a Balfour Beatty/ Carillion joint venture for completion in September 2009. The new railway extends London Underground's former East London Line route to become part of the London Overground rail network. The winning bidder will start maintenance work in January 2009, to allow a period of dual running with the joint venture while it carries out testing work. Under an initial seven year deal the successful bidder will look after the section of the railway between New Cross and Dalston Junction, although the area covered could be extended north to Highbury and Islington during the tender. A larger extension in south London is subject to financial approval. London Underground has left the door open for the contract to be extended to ten years if successful, but will reduce it to just five years if the winning firm fails to live up to the requirements of its contract. Unquote Puzzle of the day – where was the picture that accompanies this article taken? |
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Mwmbwls wrote:
http://www.cnplus.co.uk/imageGallery...m18-319606.jpg http://www.cnplus.co.uk/News/2008/02...ertised.h tml quote East London Railway maintenance works advertised · Published: 18 February 2008 09:17 · Author: Alasdair Reisner London Underground has advertised the contract to look after the £800 million railway, which is currently being built by a Balfour Beatty/ Carillion joint venture for completion in September 2009. Puzzle of the day – where was the picture that accompanies this article taken? SIgn in required unfortunately... Paul S |
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On Feb 26, 11:08 am, "Paul Scott"
wrote: Mwmbwls wrote: http://www.cnplus.co.uk/imageGallery...m:18-753594&pa.... http://www.cnplus.co.uk/News/2008/02...y_maintenance_... quote East London Railway maintenance works advertised · Published: 18 February 2008 09:17 · Author: Alasdair Reisner London Underground has advertised the contract to look after the £800 million railway, which is currently being built by a Balfour Beatty/ Carillion joint venture for completion in September 2009. Puzzle of the day - where was the picture that accompanies this article taken? SIgn in required unfortunately... For the first link it isn't. If that picture was taken on the ELL, it would have to be a station I haven't been to recently, which would make Shoreditch the only possiblity. However, it doesn't look anything like how I would imagine Shoreditch to be. So it could be anywhere on LU ... I know some stations that it isn't. I'm guessing somewhere at the eastern end of the District. |
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On 26 Feb, 11:37, MIG wrote:
However, it doesn't look anything like how I would imagine Shoreditch to be. It certainly isn't Shoreditch, or anywhere on the East London Line (the only outdoor station with double track was Surrey Quays, and it ain't there) I'm guessing somewhere at the eastern end of the District. I'd guess Woodford or somewhere around there, but it's not somewhere I recognise. U -- http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ A blog about transport projects in London |
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On Feb 26, 12:32*pm, Mr Thant
wrote: On 26 Feb, 11:37, MIG wrote: However, it doesn't look anything like how I would imagine Shoreditch to be. It certainly isn't Shoreditch, or anywhere on the East London Line (the only outdoor station with double track was Surrey Quays, and it ain't there) I'm guessing somewhere at the eastern end of the District. I'd guess Woodford or somewhere around there, but it's not somewhere I recognise. Definitely not Woodford. It might conceivably be somewhere like Newbury Park, looking south, given the main road, footbridge and general lowness. But it's so long since I've been there, I can't remember what it's actually like. But I thought the platforms looked a bit high for a tube line. Maybe not. |
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Mr Thant wrote:
On 26 Feb, 11:37, MIG wrote: However, it doesn't look anything like how I would imagine Shoreditch to be. It certainly isn't Shoreditch, or anywhere on the East London Line (the only outdoor station with double track was Surrey Quays, and it ain't there) I'm guessing somewhere at the eastern end of the District. I'd guess Woodford or somewhere around there, but it's not somewhere I recognise. South Woodford seems more likely. |
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On Feb 26, 12:54*pm, "John Rowland"
wrote: Mr Thant wrote: On 26 Feb, 11:37, MIG wrote: However, it doesn't look anything like how I would imagine Shoreditch to be. It certainly isn't Shoreditch, or anywhere on the East London Line (the only outdoor station with double track was Surrey Quays, and it ain't there) I'm guessing somewhere at the eastern end of the District. I'd guess Woodford or somewhere around there, but it's not somewhere I recognise. South Woodford seems more likely. Definitely not South Woodford either. I've just had a look at the satellite map of Newbury Park, which strongly fails to disprove my earlier suggestion that it could be that. So I am throwing away my District Line suggestion and putting my money on Newbury Park. |
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On 26 Feb, 13:04, MIG wrote:
So I am throwing away my District Line suggestion and putting my money on Newbury Park. It is and all: http://flickr.com/photos/andydoyle/391564168/ Which also has that enormous bus station: http://flickr.com/photos/stephenk1977/213485407/ U -- http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ A blog about transport projects in London |
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On Feb 26, 1:36*pm, Mr Thant
wrote: On 26 Feb, 13:04, MIG wrote: So I am throwing away my District Line suggestion and putting my money on Newbury Park. It is and all:http://flickr.com/photos/andydoyle/391564168/ Which also has that enormous bus station:http://flickr.com/photos/stephenk1977/213485407/ Ah yes; the bus shelter is a listed building. Can't be many of those. |
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On 26 Feb, 11:37, MIG wrote:
On Feb 26, 11:08 am, "Paul Scott" wrote: Mwmbwls wrote: http://www.cnplus.co.uk/imageGallery...m:18-753594&pa.... http://www.cnplus.co.uk/News/2008/02...y_maintenance_.... quote East London Railway maintenance works advertised · Published: 18 February 2008 09:17 · Author: Alasdair Reisner London Underground has advertised the contract to look after the £800 million railway, which is currently being built by a Balfour Beatty/ Carillion joint venture for completion in September 2009. Puzzle of the day - where was the picture that accompanies this article taken? SIgn in required unfortunately... For the first link it isn't. *If that picture was taken on the ELL, it would have to be a station I haven't been to recently, which would make Shoreditch the only possiblity. However, it doesn't look anything like how I would imagine Shoreditch to be. So it could be anywhere on LU ... I know some stations that it isn't. I'm guessing somewhere at the eastern end of the District.- Hide quoted text - No. The lines around there are all four track, because of the Fenchurch Street line. Jonn |
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On Feb 26, 2:26*pm, wrote:
On 26 Feb, 11:37, MIG wrote: On Feb 26, 11:08 am, "Paul Scott" wrote: Mwmbwls wrote: http://www.cnplus.co.uk/imageGallery...m:18-753594&pa... http://www.cnplus.co.uk/News/2008/02...y_maintenance_.... quote East London Railway maintenance works advertised · Published: 18 February 2008 09:17 · Author: Alasdair Reisner London Underground has advertised the contract to look after the £800 million railway, which is currently being built by a Balfour Beatty/ Carillion joint venture for completion in September 2009. Puzzle of the day - where was the picture that accompanies this article taken? SIgn in required unfortunately... For the first link it isn't. *If that picture was taken on the ELL, it would have to be a station I haven't been to recently, which would make Shoreditch the only possiblity. However, it doesn't look anything like how I would imagine Shoreditch to be. So it could be anywhere on LU ... I know some stations that it isn't. I'm guessing somewhere at the eastern end of the District.- Hide quoted text - No. The lines around there are all four track, because of the Fenchurch Street line. We are pretty sure it's Newbury Park, but there are several District stations where the C2C tracks are walled off and from that angle you wouldn't be able to see them (eg Bromley by Bow, Upton Park etc). The stations are only on the District and the lines are completely segregated (as on the Watford line). |
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Mr Thant wrote:
On 26 Feb, 13:04, MIG wrote: So I am throwing away my District Line suggestion and putting my money on Newbury Park. It is and all: http://flickr.com/photos/andydoyle/391564168/ Which also has that enormous bus station: http://flickr.com/photos/stephenk1977/213485407/ Never seen that before, even in pics - what a nice design. Alan. -- To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'. |
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On 26 Feb, 09:38, Mwmbwls wrote:
http://www.cnplus.co.uk/imageGallery...m:18-753594&pa... http://www.cnplus.co.uk/News/2008/02...y_maintenance_... quote East London Railway maintenance works advertised · Published: 18 February 2008 09:17 · Author: Alasdair Reisner London Underground has advertised the contract to look after the £800 million railway, which is currently being built by a Balfour Beatty/ Carillion joint venture for completion in September 2009. The new railway extends London Underground's former East London Line route to become part of the London Overground rail network. The winning bidder will start maintenance work in January 2009, to allow a period of dual running with the joint venture while it carries out testing work. Under an initial seven year deal the successful bidder will look after the section of the railway between New Cross and Dalston Junction, although the area covered could be extended north to Highbury and Islington during the tender. A larger extension in south London is subject to financial approval. London Underground has left the door open for the contract to be extended to ten years if successful, but will reduce it to just five years if the winning firm fails to live up to the requirements of its contract. Unquote Interesting news in and of itself. Those who were under the impression that Network Rail would inevitably simply be handed the maintenance contract for the Dalton - New Cross stretch should take note. That said, I suppose that public sector procurement rules might well mean that any such contract must be advertised and subject to open bidding, though I'm not certain on whether such rules apply in this situation. Nevertheless, perhaps Network Rail could even end up winning the contract and doing the job - if they bid, of course! Does anyone know the details of how the Highbury & Islington/Dalston - New Cross stretch will be signalled? To a layman such as myself it would appear to make some sense for Network Rail to do it from a south London signalling centre, given the interface at New Cross Gate between the ELLX line and the main line down to Croydon (and, if and when phase 2 gets built, a second interface at the new junction with the South London Line at a point north of the Old Kent Road). |
Construction News Photograph - Where is it?
Which also has that enormous bus station: http://flickr.com/photos/stephenk1977/213485407/ Which services possibly the least number of busses of any London station :-) |
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On Feb 26, 5:45*pm, Laurence Payne NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com
wrote: Which also has that enormous bus station: http://flickr.com/photos/stephenk1977/213485407/ Which services possibly the least number of busses of any London station :-) 66, 296, 396. More than one at least! Remember it's a bus stand not a station. Westbound 66 especially turns round here sometimes. Also useful for rail replacement. BTW I supplied all but the main picture on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newbury_Park_tube_station |
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On Feb 28, 12:08*am, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
In article , (MIG) wrote: However, it doesn't look anything like how I would imagine Shoreditch to be. Definitely not Shoreditch which only had one track and one platform. The non-Shoreditchness was never in doubt, but it had two platforms when I was last there in the 1970s or so ... I think you are right; one was taken out of use at some point. |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:24 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote: My 1971 Q stock photo shows the second platform out of use even then. The second platform closed in 1928. The track was removed soon after through services to Liverpool Street ceased in 1966. Source: "East London Line" by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith. I can remember the track being used by through freight in "F" stock days. -- Bill Hayles http://billnot.com |
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On 29 Feb, 10:36, Bill Hayles wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:24 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote: My 1971 Q stock photo shows the second platform out of use even then. The second platform closed in 1928. The track was removed soon after through services to Liverpool Street ceased in 1966. Source: "East London Line" by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith. I can remember the track being used by through freight in "F" stock days. I am not old enough to remember 1928. I wonder how soon after 1966? I must have just been there very briefly in the 1970s, seen the space through a crowd and assumed that there was a track in the other platform. |
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"Bill Hayles" wrote in message ... The second platform closed in 1928. The track was removed soon after through services to Liverpool Street ceased in 1966. Source: "East London Line" by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith. I can remember the track being used by through freight in "F" stock days. Was freight ever carried on the London Underground, even if it was in off hours? |
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On 29 Feb, 11:37, wrote:
"Bill Hayles" wrote: The second platform closed in 1928. The track was removed soon after through services to Liverpool Street ceased in 1966. Source: "East London Line" by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith. I can remember the track being used by through freight in "F" stock days. Was freight ever carried on the London Underground, even if it was in off hours? Yes, it certainly was! I'll leave others to fill in the details, but freight was carried on the East London line and on other subsurface lines. Back in years past the subsurface lines had many more links to the mainline railways, and there was far less of a clear distinction between Underground and mainline railways. Freight trains travelling via the East London line used to run on in to a platform at Liverpool Street station before being reversed out to travel along the main lines (or vice versa). Freight operations certainly weren't planned for peak hours, though I have read a story somewhere of disgruntled morning commuters being less than pleased to find a steam-drawn goods train trundling through the platforms instead of the (clean, electric) train they wanted to catch to work. It should be noted that it is incredibly unlikely that the new ELLX will carry any freight from south to north London - the new incline that the line will take up from north of Whitechapel, where the line is in a cutting, to south of Shoreditch High Street station, where the line will be sat atop a viaduct, will be very steep and is likely in itself to rule out freight train operations. That said, AIUI at some point over the next couple of years there will be works trains (for construction materials) that will make this journey, though that's still a little way of yet. |
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On 29 Feb, 19:29, Paul Terry wrote:
it was Does freight stlll use the Harrow to Amersham section of the Chiltern/ Metropolitan Line? U -- http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ A blog about transport projects in London |
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In article ,
(Bill Hayles) wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:24 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote: My 1971 Q stock photo shows the second platform out of use even then. The second platform closed in 1928. The track was removed soon after through services to Liverpool Street ceased in 1966. Source: "East London Line" by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith. I can remember the track being used by through freight in "F" stock days. Unfortunately I didn't take pictures when I visited the ELL in F stock days. :-( -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:19 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote: Unfortunately I didn't take pictures when I visited the ELL in F stock days. :-( Alas, neither did I, nor of the loco change at Rickmansworth. Perhaps we were just too young to realise that we were observing history. -- Bill Hayles http://billnot.com |
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On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:19 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote: In article , () wrote: "Bill Hayles" wrote in message ... The second platform closed in 1928. The track was removed soon after through services to Liverpool Street ceased in 1966. Source: "East London Line" by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith. I can remember the track being used by through freight in "F" stock days. Was freight ever carried on the London Underground, even if it was in off hours? To add the comments of others, I clearly remember seeing occasional freights passing through Earl's Court on my way home from school in the lat 50s/early 60s. Presumably return movements from High St Ken. I have to confess I only ever saw them on the ELL and on the Met main line. It must have been quite a sight to see a freight trundle through Earl's Court. -- Bill Hayles http://billnot.com |
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On 1 Mar, 12:06, Bill Hayles wrote:
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:19 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote: Unfortunately I didn't take pictures when I visited the ELL in F stock days. :-( Alas, neither did I, nor of the loco change at Rickmansworth. Perhaps we were just too young to realise that we were observing history. Well, I wonder what everyday sights we see these days that no-one bats an eyelid at? That said, what with digital photography, I think there'll be a plethora of photographic documentation of pretty much everything - but maybe something really obvious will be missed? |
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In article ,
(Bill Hayles) wrote: On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:19 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote: In article , () wrote: "Bill Hayles" wrote in message ... The second platform closed in 1928. The track was removed soon after through services to Liverpool Street ceased in 1966. Source: "East London Line" by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith. I can remember the track being used by through freight in "F" stock days. Was freight ever carried on the London Underground, even if it was in off hours? To add the comments of others, I clearly remember seeing occasional freights passing through Earl's Court on my way home from school in the late 50s/early 60s. Presumably return movements from High St Ken. I have to confess I only ever saw them on the ELL and on the Met main line. It must have been quite a sight to see a freight trundle through Earl's Court. A bit of a shock the first time. After that it was just amusing. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:06:45 GMT, Bill Hayles
wrote: On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:19 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote: Unfortunately I didn't take pictures when I visited the ELL in F stock days. :-( Alas, neither did I, nor of the loco change at Rickmansworth. Perhaps we were just too young to realise that we were observing history. I experienced the Rickmansworth loco change once or twice, in 1954 or 1955, when travelling to Chorleywood and Chenies. We were in the carriages with the circular topped doors. RAF Chenies was the only above-ground GCI station, where you could hear the aircraft flying overhead, as well as see them on the radar screen. Those of us who took the Meccano Magazine were well aware of the changeover procedure. -- Terry Harper Website Coordinator, The Omnibus Society http://www.omnibussoc.org |
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In article 76716eba-8b1a-4e16-968f-a53642894b10
@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com, says... http://www.cnplus.co.uk/imageGallery...m18-319606.jpg http://www.cnplus.co.uk/News/2008/02...ertised.h tml quote East London Railway maintenance works advertised · Published: 18 February 2008 09:17 · Author: Alasdair Reisner London Underground has advertised the contract to look after the £800 million railway, which is currently being built by a Balfour Beatty/ Carillion joint venture for completion in September 2009. The new railway extends London Underground's former East London Line route to become part of the London Overground rail network. The winning bidder will start maintenance work in January 2009, to allow a period of dual running with the joint venture while it carries out testing work. Under an initial seven year deal the successful bidder will look after the section of the railway between New Cross and Dalston Junction, although the area covered could be extended north to Highbury and Islington during the tender. A larger extension in south London is subject to financial approval. London Underground has left the door open for the contract to be extended to ten years if successful, but will reduce it to just five years if the winning firm fails to live up to the requirements of its contract. Unquote Puzzle of the day ? where was the picture that accompanies this article taken? Almost certainly East Ham, the footbridge being the out-of-use one which led from the westbound District platform to the eastbound in order to serve the former bay platform for the Kentish Town service. For a short time during the station refurb this bridge was in use. |
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No-one knows where this mythical synagogue is built into Newbury Park
station then? I looked around yesterday and can't see where it's hidden. |
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:39:16 -0800 (PST), Mr Thant wrote:
Does freight stlll use the Harrow to Amersham section of the Chiltern/ Metropolitan Line? I doubt it - there would be nowhere for it to go. Heading eastbound through Harrow (onto Network Rail), the only place you can get to is Marylebone. The Dudding Hill line (from Neasden to Acton) can only be accessed from the Northolt Park direction. |
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"asdf" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:39:16 -0800 (PST), Mr Thant wrote: Does freight stlll use the Harrow to Amersham section of the Chiltern/ Metropolitan Line? I doubt it - there would be nowhere for it to go. Heading eastbound through Harrow (onto Network Rail), the only place you can get to is Marylebone. Does freight run anywhere on LUL for extra territorial clients? |
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 00:16 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), Colin Rosenstiel
wrote: Does freight stlll use the Harrow to Amersham section of the Chiltern/Metropolitan Line? I doubt it - there would be nowhere for it to go. Heading eastbound through Harrow (onto Network Rail), the only place you can get to is Marylebone. The Dudding Hill line (from Neasden to Acton) can only be accessed from the Northolt Park direction. How do the binliners get to Aylesbury? Via South Ruislip and Little Kimble. |
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