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Bizarre Battersea tow-truck - bus - bridge accident
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7285085.stm
Except from the BBC news story: quote A tow-truck has overturned following an accident with a double-decker bus under a railway bridge in south London. The accident in Battersea Park Road [...] happened as the truck tried to go under the bridge with its extended towing arm at about 1010 GMT. The arm caught the bottom of the bridge resulting in it tilting on to the oncoming number 345 bus, police said. The bus, which was left leaning over, had 30 passengers onboard at the time. None of the passengers were hurt. No other injuries were reported. [continues...] /quote Despite the BBC story currently saying that this happened in Kennington it quite clearly didn't - it was in Battersea, the bridge being that which carries the West London Line between Chelsea (i.e. West Brompton, the Cremorne [rail] Bridge over the Thames) and Clapham Junction (or indeed the "Ludgate" or "City lines" to Factory Junctionand beyond, or the Sheepcote Lane curve towards Waterloo). The bridge in question is at the centre of this street map: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.sr...&y=176412&ar=N It would seem that this didn't disrupt rail services much, so presumably the bridge is undamaged, in contrast to the 30 bus passengers' somewhat damaged peace of mind, especially those on the top deck! |
Bizarre Battersea tow-truck - bus - bridge accident
On 8 Mar, 19:20, Mizter T wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7285085.stm Except from the BBC news story: quote A tow-truck has overturned following an accident with a double-decker bus under a railway bridge in south London. The accident in Battersea Park Road [...] happened as the truck tried to go under the bridge with its extended towing arm at about 1010 GMT. The arm caught the bottom of the bridge resulting in it tilting on to the oncoming number 345 bus, police said. The bus, which was left leaning over, had 30 passengers onboard at the time. None of the passengers were hurt. No other injuries were reported. [continues...] /quote Despite the BBC story currently saying that this happened in Kennington it quite clearly didn't - it was in Battersea, the bridge being that which carries the West London Line between Chelsea (i.e. West Brompton, the Cremorne [rail] Bridge over the Thames) and Clapham Junction (or indeed the "Ludgate" or "City lines" to Factory Junctionand beyond, or the Sheepcote Lane curve towards Waterloo). The bridge in question is at the centre of this street map:http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.sr...&y=176412&ar=N It would seem that this didn't disrupt rail services much, so presumably the bridge is undamaged, in contrast to the 30 bus passengers' somewhat damaged peace of mind, especially those on the top deck! Yes i live five minutes away and was driving down the road just after it happened. The truck must have just glanced the top of the bridge and tipped over into the bus. The bus took quite a bit of damage from the lifting arm but luckily it smashed into the stair section where no one was at the time. Nobody was taken to hospital but a couple were treated at the scene. Initially it looked like a car had been crushed between the truck and the bus but the truck in question was a TFL lift and remove truck for parking on red routes etc. Would be a bit of a shock for the owner when they went to claim it. Where is my car? Ahh there is a bit of a problem sir - its been written off. M reg so not much to pay out! |
Bizarre Battersea tow-truck - bus - bridge accident
"Mizter T" wrote in message
... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7285085.stm Except from the BBC news story: quote A tow-truck has overturned following an accident with a double-decker bus under a railway bridge in south London. The accident in Battersea Park Road [...] happened as the truck tried to go under the bridge with its extended towing arm at about 1010 GMT. The arm caught the bottom of the bridge resulting in it tilting on to the oncoming number 345 bus, police said. The bus, which was left leaning over, had 30 passengers onboard at the time. None of the passengers were hurt. No other injuries were reported. [continues...] /quote Shocking story. Mainly because it should be, "None of the passengers WAS hurt." The standards of journalism today. Bah! |
Bizarre Battersea tow-truck - bus - bridge accident
Graculus wrote:
"Mizter T" wrote in message ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7285085.stm Except from the BBC news story: quote A tow-truck has overturned following an accident with a double-decker bus under a railway bridge in south London. The accident in Battersea Park Road [...] happened as the truck tried to go under the bridge with its extended towing arm at about 1010 GMT. The arm caught the bottom of the bridge resulting in it tilting on to the oncoming number 345 bus, police said. The bus, which was left leaning over, had 30 passengers onboard at the time. None of the passengers were hurt. No other injuries were reported. [continues...] /quote Shocking story. Mainly because it should be, "None of the passengers WAS hurt." The standards of journalism today. Bah! Today's journalists are only following their predecessors from the 9th century onwards, who have used both singular and plural verbs after "none of". See 'Modern English Usage' and many other authorities. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
Bizarre Battersea tow-truck - bus - bridge accident
On Mar 8, 9:20 pm, "Graculus"
wrote: Mainly because it should be, "None of the passengers WAS hurt." Since when? "were" is the plural form, passengers is plural. B2003 |
Bizarre Battersea tow-truck - bus - bridge accident
On 10 Mar, 11:45, Boltar wrote:
Since when? "were" is the plural form, passengers is plural. But the subject of the verb is "none" rather than "passengers", and grammar pedants think "none" is singular. answers.com has a nice Usage Note denying this: http://www.answers.com/none U -- http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ A blog about transport projects in London |
Bizarre Battersea tow-truck - bus - bridge accident
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, Boltar wrote: On Mar 8, 9:20 pm, "Graculus" wrote: Mainly because it should be, "None of the passengers WAS hurt." Since when? "were" is the plural form, passengers is plural. Because none is (arguably) singular. Sam |
Bizarre Battersea tow-truck - bus - bridge accident
On 10 Mar, 12:06, Sam Wilson wrote:
In article , *Boltar wrote: On Mar 8, 9:20 pm, "Graculus" wrote: Mainly because it should be, "None of the passengers WAS hurt." Since when? "were" is the plural form, passengers is plural. Because none is (arguably) singular. Consider oranges ... If you said "several oranges", "three oranges", "fifty oranges" or a "couple of oranges", you'd be referring to the individual oranges, so you'd use "were" afterwards. If you said "a box of oranges", most likely it's the box you are referring to, so you'd say "was" (ie picking up a box is not the same as picking up many individual oranges). In the "none" case, it's not really a strictly grammatical issue; it's whether you are considering the individual passengers or a unit container of passengers. Is the meaning on the lines of "a none of passengers ..."? I doubt it, so I think that the plural is fine. There is no word "nany", so "none" has to stand for "not one" and "not any". |
Bizarre Battersea tow-truck - bus - bridge accident
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, MIG wrote: On 10 Mar, 12:06, Sam Wilson wrote: In article , *Boltar wrote: On Mar 8, 9:20 pm, "Graculus" wrote: Mainly because it should be, "None of the passengers WAS hurt." Since when? "were" is the plural form, passengers is plural. Because none is (arguably) singular. Consider oranges ... If you said "several oranges", "three oranges", "fifty oranges" or a "couple of oranges", you'd be referring to the individual oranges, so you'd use "were" afterwards. If you said "a box of oranges", most likely it's the box you are referring to, so you'd say "was" (ie picking up a box is not the same as picking up many individual oranges). In the "none" case, it's not really a strictly grammatical issue; it's whether you are considering the individual passengers or a unit container of passengers. Is the meaning on the lines of "a none of passengers ..."? I doubt it, so I think that the plural is fine. There is no word "nany", so "none" has to stand for "not one" and "not any". And if it stands for "not one" then it's singular. I'm not being dogmatic, just pointing out that, arguably, "none" is singular. You can also argue that it's plural. Sam |
Bizarre Battersea tow-truck - bus - bridge accident
Graculus wrote:
"Mizter T" wrote in message ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7285085.stm Except from the BBC news story: quote A tow-truck has overturned following an accident with a double-decker bus under a railway bridge in south London. The accident in Battersea Park Road [...] happened as the truck tried to go under the bridge with its extended towing arm at about 1010 GMT. The arm caught the bottom of the bridge resulting in it tilting on to the oncoming number 345 bus, police said. The bus, which was left leaning over, had 30 passengers onboard at the time. None of the passengers were hurt. No other injuries were reported. [continues...] /quote Shocking story. Mainly because it should be, "None of the passengers WAS hurt." The standards of journalism today. Bah! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w-XQ6MVAsM A lesson from Stephen Fry :D |
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