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Ticket Barrier Jumping
I was waiting to meet someone at angel station the other day and
someone on their way out quite obviously and blatantly jumped over the barrier and walked on his way, there was a member of staff on the inner side of the barrier who just looked at him but did nothing. The guy didn't even make a run for it he just strolled out normally, are staff not supposed to do something? -- Mark. www.MarkVarleyPhoto.co.uk www.TwistedPhotography.co.uk www.TwistedArts.co.uk www.BeautifulBondage.net |
Ticket Barrier Jumping
In message , MarkVarley -
MVP writes I was waiting to meet someone at angel station the other day and someone on their way out quite obviously and blatantly jumped over the barrier and walked on his way, there was a member of staff on the inner side of the barrier who just looked at him but did nothing. The guy didn't even make a run for it he just strolled out normally, are staff not supposed to do something? These days, there's a limit to what could be done to avoid personal risk, be that physical abuse or trumped up "assault" charge. Oh for the days when folk had more respect for rules and each other... -- Kenny |
Ticket Barrier Jumping
On Mar 13, 11:05 am, MarkVarley - MVP
wrote: I was waiting to meet someone at angel station the other day and someone on their way out quite obviously and blatantly jumped over the barrier and walked on his way, there was a member of staff on the inner side of the barrier who just looked at him but did nothing. The guy didn't even make a run for it he just strolled out normally, are staff not supposed to do something? -- Mark.http://www.MarkVarleyPhoto.co.ukwww....fulBondage.net On station where there are more than one member of staff on the gateline, they would be challenged. If they are alone, then it could be dangerous to challenge someone. Sometimes the staff are lucky and there are BTP on the station who are sent after said non paying punter. |
Ticket Barrier Jumping
On Mar 13, 11:30 am, Kenny wrote:
In message , MarkVarley - MVP writesI was waiting to meet someone at angel station the other day and someone on their way out quite obviously and blatantly jumped over the barrier and walked on his way, there was a member of staff on the inner side of the barrier who just looked at him but did nothing. The guy didn't even make a run for it he just strolled out normally, are staff not supposed to do something? These days, there's a limit to what could be done to avoid personal risk, be that physical abuse or trumped up "assault" charge. Oh for the days when folk had more respect for rules and each other... Are LU staff legally allowed to grab someone? If they are I presume this would only be on LU property so if he's legged it out the station there wouldn't be much they could do anyway. B2003 |
Ticket Barrier Jumping
On 13 Mar, 17:10, Boltar wrote:
Are LU staff legally allowed to grab someone? If they are I presume this would only be on LU property so if he's legged it out the station there wouldn't be much they could do anyway. Just as for anyone who has reasonable suspicion that an arrestable offence has been committed, LU staff have the right to restrain a suspected travel fraudster - on or off their property. It's possible that their byelaws grant them additional rights on their own property. -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
Ticket Barrier Jumping
On Mar 13, 11:05 am, MarkVarley - MVP
wrote: I was waiting to meet someone at angel station the other day and someone on their way out quite obviously and blatantly jumped over the barrier and walked on his way, there was a member of staff on the inner side of the barrier who just looked at him but did nothing. The guy didn't even make a run for it he just strolled out normally, are staff not supposed to do something? Why didn't you stop him? |
Ticket Barrier Jumping
On Mar 13, 5:54 pm, John B wrote:
On 13 Mar, 17:10, Boltar wrote: Are LU staff legally allowed to grab someone? If they are I presume this would only be on LU property so if he's legged it out the station there wouldn't be much they could do anyway. Just as for anyone who has reasonable suspicion that an arrestable offence has been committed, LU staff have the right to restrain a suspected travel fraudster - on or off their property. Fare evasion used to be a non-arrestable offence, as was the byelaw of failing to use the gates correctly (if, for example, the man who leapt the gates had a valid ticket). Recently, there have been changes to the laws of England and it may now be that every offence is arrestable. |
Ticket Barrier Jumping
On 14 Mar, 02:24, Offramp wrote:
On Mar 13, 5:54 pm, John B wrote: On 13 Mar, 17:10, Boltar wrote: Are LU staff legally allowed to grab someone? If they are I presume this would only be on LU property so if he's legged it out the station there wouldn't be much they could do anyway. Just as for anyone who has reasonable suspicion that an arrestable offence has been committed, LU staff have the right to restrain a suspected travel fraudster - on or off their property. Fare evasion used to be a non-arrestable offence, as was the byelaw of failing to use the gates correctly (if, for example, the man who leapt the gates had a valid ticket). Recently, there have been changes to the laws of England and it may now be that every offence is arrestable. Certainly DNA-able, regardless of guilt |
Ticket Barrier Jumping
Offramp wrote:
On Mar 13, 5:54 pm, John B wrote: On 13 Mar, 17:10, Boltar wrote: Are LU staff legally allowed to grab someone? If they are I presume this would only be on LU property so if he's legged it out the station there wouldn't be much they could do anyway. Just as for anyone who has reasonable suspicion that an arrestable offence has been committed, LU staff have the right to restrain a suspected travel fraudster - on or off their property. Fare evasion used to be a non-arrestable offence, as was the byelaw of failing to use the gates correctly (if, for example, the man who leapt the gates had a valid ticket). Recently, there have been changes to the laws of England and it may now be that every offence is arrestable. By a constable. Other people can generally only arrest for indictable offences. -- Michael Hoffman |
Ticket Barrier Jumping
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:21:25 -0700 (PDT), Offramp
wrote this gibberish: On Mar 13, 11:05 am, MarkVarley - MVP wrote: I was waiting to meet someone at angel station the other day and someone on their way out quite obviously and blatantly jumped over the barrier and walked on his way, there was a member of staff on the inner side of the barrier who just looked at him but did nothing. The guy didn't even make a run for it he just strolled out normally, are staff not supposed to do something? Why didn't you stop him? Because putting myself in the line of fire when someone has only fractured a bylaw isn't something I do. I have stopped people comitting other offences though, including a recent thing at reading station. -- Mark. www.MarkVarleyPhoto.co.uk www.TwistedPhotography.co.uk www.TwistedArts.co.uk www.BeautifulBondage.net |
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