![]() |
Kensington Olympia district line
I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was
advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than waiting for the next train. Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived? Jonn |
Kensington Olympia district line
|
Kensington Olympia district line
|
Kensington Olympia district line
"Jack Taylor" wrote in message ... wrote: I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than waiting for the next train. Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived? No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it. Only when there is a big exhibition on. Most of the time the trains are virtually empty. Peter Smyth |
Kensington Olympia district line
On 13 Mar, 18:42, "Peter Smyth" wrote:
"Jack Taylor" wrote in message ... wrote: I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than waiting for the next train. Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived? No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it. Only when there is a big exhibition on. Most of the time the trains are virtually empty. Peter Smyth Not true, I was actually there counting passengers on Tuesday and I have to say I was most surprised at the numbers using both tube and Overground. Many passengers also enter and leave via the east, non exhibition side. MaxB |
Kensington Olympia district line
Jack Taylor wrote:
wrote: I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than waiting for the next train. Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived? No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it. Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any others? Cheers Steve M |
Kensington Olympia district line
Steve M wrote:
Jack Taylor wrote: wrote: I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than waiting for the next train. Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived? No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it. Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any others? Cheers Steve M (Well, Chesham would have more per train, but only because there are 2 trains per hour fewer from there). |
Kensington Olympia district line
Steve M wrote:
Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Sorry - but that doesn't square with my observations on many afternoons, on non-exhibition days, when there is a constant stream of (mainly) business passengers feeding into both LUL and Overground services. I'd estimate at least double those figures from about 15:30 onwards. I can't speak for the morning peak, as I've never used it that early, apart from on Saturdays, when I've experienced the kind of numbers that you suggest. |
Kensington Olympia district line
wrote in message ... I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than waiting for the next train. Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived? It was not impression that KenOly was so very close to Earls Court. |
Kensington Olympia district line
On 13 Mar, 21:08, Steve M wrote:
Jack Taylor wrote: wrote: I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than waiting for the next train. Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived? No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it. Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any others? Cheers Steve M You are referring to the Overground - the OP was talking about the tube, and of the trains I observed (but didn't count) I would reckon up to 200 on several trains, maybe a 1000 in total between 0700 and 1000. Incidentally, we counted over 400 entries and exits just on the southbound platform. MaxB |
Kensington Olympia district line
Is it quicker to walk from Earl's Court to Kensington Olympia or get
the District Line to West Brompton and London Overground to Olympia? Or even walk from Olympia to West Brompton and overground from there? I'm not sure how often overground trains go but I think West Brompton is a lot closer to Earl's Court than Olympia |
Kensington Olympia district line
Jack Taylor wrote:
Steve M wrote: Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Sorry - but that doesn't square with my observations on many afternoons, on non-exhibition days, when there is a constant stream of (mainly) business passengers feeding into both LUL and Overground services. I'd estimate at least double those figures from about 15:30 onwards. I can't speak for the morning peak, as I've never used it that early, apart from on Saturdays, when I've experienced the kind of numbers that you suggest. Fair enough, but those are the official 2006 figures (which now seem to be available to the public on the TfL website). Perhaps during the off peak, all the trains between 1000 and 1500 are empty, with everyone piling on between 1500 and 1600? :) Saturday numbers show as 921 across the whole traffic day. Cheers Steve M |
Kensington Olympia district line
MaxB wrote:
On 13 Mar, 21:08, Steve M wrote: Jack Taylor wrote: wrote: I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than waiting for the next train. Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived? No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it. Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any others? Cheers Steve M You are referring to the Overground - the OP was talking about the tube, and of the trains I observed (but didn't count) I would reckon up to 200 on several trains, maybe a 1000 in total between 0700 and 1000. Incidentally, we counted over 400 entries and exits just on the southbound platform. MaxB Nope, I'm referring to London Underground District Line services, and the figures are LU's own. But I suppose those are subject to the usual caveats about data collection, surveys, people touching in and out etc. Is Kenny O gated? Cheers Steve M |
Kensington Olympia district line
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article , (Steve M) wrote: Jack Taylor wrote: wrote: I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than waiting for the next train. Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived? No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it. Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any others? Yes, but how much exhibition traffic is at 0700 to 1000? What are the evening figures, for example? PM Peak = 397 entries, 384 exits. Evening (1900 to 2200) is 94 and 240! Cheers Steve |
Kensington Olympia district line
On 14 Mar, 01:59, Steve M wrote:
Colin Rosenstiel wrote: In article , (Steve M) wrote: Jack Taylor wrote: wrote: I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than waiting for the next train. Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived? No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it. Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any others? Yes, but how much exhibition traffic is at 0700 to 1000? What are the evening figures, for example? PM Peak = 397 entries, 384 exits. Evening (1900 to 2200) is 94 and 240! Cheers Steve- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think, as has been suggested earlier, that use of the station has grown considerably in the last few years so the 2005/6 figures may be right, but are now out of date. No, Kenny O has some gates but is open most of the time; there is nothing on the east side, indeed the single Oyster reader, tucked away by the overbridge is easy to miss, perhaps to help catch people out and hope they get charged the maximum! Incidentally, is this the reason why Oyster readers are so small and painted an unobtrusive grey? Given how important they are to most travellers, they should be fluorescent orange! I walked from Eearls Court to KO on Tuesday morning, it took 14 minutes at a steady pace - crossing the main roads can slow you down however. It could be quicker to go to West Brompton and back - say 6 minutes if the connections are right - but it would depend on good luck or good timing. MaxB |
Kensington Olympia district line
On 14 Mar, 00:10, Sophie wrote:
Is it quicker to walk from Earl's Court to Kensington Olympia or get the District Line to West Brompton and London Overground to Olympia? Or even walk from Olympia to West Brompton and overground from there? I'm not sure how often overground trains go but I think West Brompton is a lot closer to Earl's Court than Olympia West Brompton and Earls Court are practically two ends of the same building. Olympia is a fair walk, the closest stations being Shepherds Bush (C), West Kensington, High Street Kensington. Earls Court I reckon is a little further than those. |
Kensington Olympia district line
On Mar 13, 9:08 pm, Steve M wrote:
period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any others? Appaerently Mill Hill East on the northern used to be quiet but now they've built a socking great housing estate on the site of the old gasworks right next to it I suspect its a lot busier these days those thats just a guess on my part as I haven't used it in 2 years. B2003 |
Kensington Olympia district line
On 14 Mar, 00:10, Sophie wrote:
Is it quicker to walk from Earl's Court to Kensington Olympia or get the District Line to West Brompton and London Overground to Olympia? Or even walk from Olympia to West Brompton and overground from there? I'm not sure how often overground trains go but I think West Brompton is a lot closer to Earl's Court than Olympia Woah, this is all sounding very complicated - any able bodied person can (and dare I suggest should!) walk it no problem at all! This street map shows just how close everything is: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.sr...&y=178696&ar=N In the bottom right hand corner of the map you can just see West Brompton station - click on the 'Large Map' link to show a wider area. Anyone arriving at West Brompton on a mainline train and heading for Earls Court merely has to exit the station and the Earls Court exhibition hall is immediately visible opposite - one definitely does not need to take the District Line from West Brompton to Earls Court station! A small pocket A-Z map is an incredibly useful accessory for both visitor and Londoner alike. |
Kensington Olympia district line
On 13 Mar, 21:08, Steve M wrote:
Jack Taylor wrote: wrote: I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than waiting for the next train. Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived? No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it. Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any others? Cheers Steve M What about people changing there and so not entering or exiting on foot? |
Kensington Olympia district line
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:11:09 +0000, Steve M
wrote: Jack Taylor wrote: Steve M wrote: Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Sorry - but that doesn't square with my observations on many afternoons, on non-exhibition days, when there is a constant stream of (mainly) business passengers feeding into both LUL and Overground services. I'd estimate at least double those figures from about 15:30 onwards. I can't speak for the morning peak, as I've never used it that early, apart from on Saturdays, when I've experienced the kind of numbers that you suggest. Fair enough, but those are the official 2006 figures (which now seem to be available to the public on the TfL website). Perhaps during the off peak, all the trains between 1000 and 1500 are empty, with everyone piling on between 1500 and 1600? :) Saturday numbers show as 921 across the whole traffic day. How accurately do the entry/exit figures reflect passenger numbers? Presumably anyone interchanging between Silverlink (as it was then) and LUL with a season ticket/through ticket wouldn't get recorded... |
Kensington Olympia district line
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:17:37 -0700 (PDT), Paul Weaver
wrote: On 14 Mar, 00:10, Sophie wrote: Is it quicker to walk from Earl's Court to Kensington Olympia or get the District Line to West Brompton and London Overground to Olympia? Or even walk from Olympia to West Brompton and overground from there? I'm not sure how often overground trains go but I think West Brompton is a lot closer to Earl's Court than Olympia West Brompton and Earls Court are practically two ends of the same building. Indeed. Many moons ago I lived just to the west of West Brompton; I had a Z1 Travelcard and walked to Earl's Court... |
Kensington Olympia district line
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:11:09AM +0000, Steve M wrote:
Fair enough, but those are the official 2006 figures (which now seem to be available to the public on the TfL website). Measured how? By tickets sold at that station? Barrier entries/exits? Both those will be too low - the latter especially, because at least when I've gone there for an exhibition they've just opened the gates and let everyone flood in and out unimpeded. -- David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Languages for which ISO-Latin-$n is not necessary, #1 in a series: Latin |
Kensington Olympia district line
On 14 Mar, 11:25, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:11:09AM +0000, Steve M wrote: Fair enough, but those are the official 2006 figures (which now seem to be available to the public on the TfL website). Measured how? By tickets sold at that station? Barrier entries/exits? Both those will be too low - the latter especially, because at least when I've gone there for an exhibition they've just opened the gates and let everyone flood in and out unimpeded. Opening the automatic gates at Kensington Olympia would be difficult because there aren't any there! |
Kensington Olympia district line
On 14 Mar, 11:25, David Cantrell wrote:
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:11:09AM +0000, Steve M wrote: Fair enough, but those are the official 2006 figures (which now seem to be available to the public on the TfL website). Measured how? *By tickets sold at that station? *Barrier entries/exits? Both those will be too low - the latter especially, because at least when I've gone there for an exhibition they've just opened the gates and let everyone flood in and out unimpeded. -- David Cantrell |http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david * Languages for which ISO-Latin-$n is not necessary, #1 in a series: * * Latin When I am sent to a station to count passengers, the normal process is to count the numbers Joining and Alighting (and sometimes On Train Departure) train by train. If these are the figures used then they could, in a few cases overstate exits and entries as anyone interchanging would be counted even though they don't actually leave the station. In some cases, at London Bridge for example, we sometimes count transfers between Eastern and Central, or at other locations we have done specific barrier counts, usually in 5 or 15 minute bands for the purposes of calculating passenger flows. Clearly a fully gated station should give you an ongoing idea of passenger numbes which "manual" checks should confirm. Even at fully barrier controlled stations, however, a lot of people with strange/non functioning tickets and special passes will be let through the gate by staff. Hence the need for a physical count from time to time. It should be pointed out that this is not an exact science - counting bobbing heads (or feet and dividing by 2) is not as easy as it might seem; but we do our best! MaxB |
Kensington Olympia district line
On 14 Mar, 09:00, Mizter T wrote:
On 14 Mar, 00:10, Sophie wrote: Is it quicker to walk from Earl's Court to Kensington Olympia or get the District Line to West Brompton and London Overground to Olympia? Or even walk from Olympia to West Brompton and overground from there? I'm not sure how often overground trains go but I think West Brompton is a lot closer to Earl's Court than Olympia Woah, this is all sounding very complicated - any able bodied person can (and dare I suggest should!) walk it no problem at all! This street map shows just how close everything is:http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.sr...&y=178696&ar=N In the bottom right hand corner of the map you can just see West Brompton station - click on the 'Large Map' link to show a wider area. Anyone arriving at West Brompton on a mainline train and heading for Earls Court merely has to exit the station and the Earls Court exhibition hall is immediately visible opposite - one definitely does not need to take the District Line from West Brompton to Earls Court station! A small pocket A-Z map is an incredibly useful accessory for both visitor and Londoner alike. No need to be sarcastic, I do have an A-Z. I was just wondering if the Kensington Olypmia announcer was giving the best advice, sometimes rail staff don't. Or maybe they can't because everyone's going somewhere different and the best way won't always be the same for everyone. I just wanted to check I was right about the distances because I'm not very intelligent |
Kensington Olympia district line
MaxB wrote:
It should be pointed out that this is not an exact science - counting bobbing heads (or feet and dividing by 2) is not as easy as it might seem; but we do our best! They had an interesting counting thing at Euston a few weeks back. Any time you entered any station entrance or came off a platform, you were given a card of a certain colour. When you left the station or entered a platform, you had to drop the coloured card into a box. The idea being too see how many of which colour ended up where. Of course, most people either immediately chucked the cards on the floor or didn't remember or think to give them up when they left, so I'm not sure what success rate they had in getting the cards back. This was the WHOLE of Euston, LUL and NR (and OG, if you like!). |
Kensington Olympia district line
Steve M wrote in article ... MaxB wrote: On 13 Mar, 21:08, Steve M wrote: Jack Taylor wrote: wrote: Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived? No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it. Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any others? You are referring to the Overground - the OP was talking about the tube, and of the trains I observed (but didn't count) I would reckon up to 200 on several trains, maybe a 1000 in total between 0700 and 1000. Incidentally, we counted over 400 entries and exits just on the southbound platform. MaxB Nope, I'm referring to London Underground District Line services, and the figures are LU's own. But I suppose those are subject to the usual caveats about data collection, surveys, people touching in and out etc. Those may be LU's figures but Kensington Olympia is a National Rail station so I looked up their figures (annual, 2004-05, based on ticket sales including seasons and the London Area Travel Survey) It's number 257 (after Eastleigh, before Stoke-on-Trent) with 1,159,086 entries+exits (Surbiton, nr 37 has 5,845,840) so not a quiet station at all. See Berrylands, nr 1032 with 191,698 -- Mike D |
Kensington Olympia district line
In article ,
(Steve M) wrote: Colin Rosenstiel wrote: In article , (Steve M) wrote: Jack Taylor wrote: wrote: I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than waiting for the next train. Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived? No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it. Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any others? Yes, but how much exhibition traffic is at 0700 to 1000? What are the evening figures, for example? PM Peak = 397 entries, 384 exits. Evening (1900 to 2200) is 94 and 240! I don't know how they are counting then. Whenever I go to KO (for exhibitions), the place gets very crowded and those figures are obviously rubbish. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
Kensington Olympia district line
On 14 Mar, 00:15, Steve M wrote:
MaxB wrote: On 13 Mar, 21:08, Steve M wrote: Jack Taylor wrote: wrote: I was on a train at Earl's Court earlier and the announcer was advising anyone who wanted Olympia to walk as it would be quicker than waiting for the next train. Does this happen a lot? Why has the branch survived? No - and because a hell of a lot of people use it. Not true. There are only a few quieter stations anywhere else on the network, and certainly none as close to Central London as Olympia. There are around 400 entries and 400 exits during the AM peak (0700 to 1000) which, if divided between the 12 or so trains which run during this period, give around 30 per train, or 5 per carriage. Off peak, the numbers are lower. Roding Valley, Chigwell and Chesham are lower... any others? Cheers Steve M You are referring to the Overground - the OP was talking about the tube, and of the trains I observed (but didn't count) I would reckon up to 200 on several trains, maybe a 1000 in total between 0700 and 1000. *Incidentally, we counted over 400 entries and exits just on the southbound platform. MaxB Nope, I'm referring to London Underground District Line services, and the figures are LU's own. But I suppose those are subject to the usual caveats about data collection, surveys, people touching in and out etc. Is Kenny O gated? Cheers Steve M- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Kenny O will be fully gated in October... Dazz285 |
Kensington Olympia district line
No, Kenny O has some gates but is open most of the time; there is
nothing on the east side, indeed the single Oyster reader, tucked away by the overbridge is easy to miss, perhaps to help catch people out and hope they get charged the maximum! Incidentally, is this the reason why Oyster readers are so small and painted an unobtrusive grey? Given how important they are to most travellers, they should be fluorescent orange! Given that they were installed at a time when not touching out didn't mean a penalty fare, I suspect it is not deliberate. LEWIS |
Kensington Olympia district line
|
Kensington Olympia district line
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 05:15:37AM -0700, Mizter T wrote:
On 14 Mar, 11:25, David Cantrell wrote: Measured how? By tickets sold at that station? Barrier entries/exits? Both those will be too low - the latter especially, because at least when I've gone there for an exhibition they've just opened the gates and let everyone flood in and out unimpeded. Opening the automatic gates at Kensington Olympia would be difficult because there aren't any there! Ha! That would explain why I've never seen any in use then :-) -- David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness When one has bathed in Christ there is no need to bathe a second time -- St. Jerome, on why washing is a vile pagan practice in a letter to Heliodorus, 373 or 374 AD |
Kensington Olympia district line
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 08:54:41PM +0000, Dave Newt wrote:
They had an interesting counting thing at Euston a few weeks back. Any time you entered any station entrance or came off a platform, you were given a card of a certain colour. When you left the station or entered a platform, you had to drop the coloured card into a box. The idea being too see how many of which colour ended up where. Nifty! Of course, most people either immediately chucked the cards on the floor or didn't remember or think to give them up when they left, so I'm not sure what success rate they had in getting the cards back. Doesn't matter. They just need to compare the number of (eg) red cards at location X with the total number of red cards collected. Those that just get chucked on the floor can be ignored - assuming that the probability of being thrown on the floor is not dependent on the colour. -- David Cantrell | top google result for "topless karaoke murders" There once a a tramp with "enable" Whose router used proprietary cables. When he got ****ed on meths, He thought "screw IOS", "Let's apt-get install iptables" |
I was surprised to see that the usage references for Kensington Olympia refer to 2006. Since then the London Overground has been added linking Clapham to Watford and particularly North West London to South West London. All this hard work has added a greater audience for the trains running to and from and through Kensington Olympia. With the plans for redevelopment of Earls Court, I think we can anticipate a greater usage of Olympia and greater demand for train services. I also think that is people were sure the service wouldn't be cut arbitrarily - which it is - there would be an even larger local audience for it
The proposal news item from LU/TfL announcing their plans to remove the week day service from December 2011 provides the distances to and from other local stations to Olympia - so you will be able to estimate how long it is to walk. As a regular user of the Kensignton Olympia District Line service I know that I will miss the week day service tremendously and particularly late at night, in the winter, when it is raining and when I am carry shopping or luggage. So pretty much all the time. Good luck with the walking, let me know which feels like the safest route. |
All times are GMT. The time now is 03:55 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2006 LondonBanter.co.uk