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http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...3892&encType=1
shows the new layout of the junction where Tunnel Avenue and Blackwall Lane
meet the A102.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...2905&encType=1
shows the old layout.

The main change seems to be that previously you could turn right off the
northbound offslip and then turn left onto the northbound onslip (should you
so wish), whereas now the traffic turning right from the offslip is forced
into a segregated lane between the two carriageways which takes it past the
onslip without allowing access to it. The only reason I can think of for the
change is that they want to stop traffic from avoiding jams on the flyover
by coming though the junction... but since you can drive across into Tunnel
Avenue and do a comfortable leisurely U-turn back to the junction, only
losing a few seconds in the process, the change seems fairly pointless... I
saw some dangerous driver confusion while I was there, and the "No Entry"
text on the tarmac seems like an admission by the engineers that they have
created something baffling and dangerous.

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The main change seems to be that previously you could turn right off the
northbound offslip and then turn left onto the northbound onslip (should you
so wish), whereas now the traffic turning right from the offslip is forced
into a segregated lane between the two carriageways which takes it past the
onslip without allowing access to it. The only reason I can think of for the
change is that they want to stop traffic from avoiding jams on the flyover
by coming though the junction

This is also why I thought they made the change. Certain several
drivers take this route.

... but since you can drive across into Tunnel
Avenue and do a comfortable leisurely U-turn back to the junction, only
losing a few seconds in the process, the change seems fairly pointless...

Whilst in principle this would be possible. In practice this would be
difficult in the morning peak as Blackwall Lane is so crowded.

However in any case, I believe there are two other ways by which
traffic exiting the northbound offslip can still enter the northbound
offslip.

First is take the middle lane on the northbound offslip (which is
signed ahead-only on the road surface) - you appear to be able to
fairly easily turn right onto the far side of the segregated Blackwall
Lane and you can then turn left onto the northbound onslip.

Second is to take the right-hand lane on the northbound offslip (which
is signed right-turn-only on the road surface) - you end up on the
near side of the segregated Blackwall Lane but for a car, it's just
possible to make a sharp left where the segregation ends and get on to
the northbound onslip (I have seen a car do this).

I
saw some dangerous driver confusion while I was there, and the "No Entry"
text on the tarmac seems like an admission by the engineers that they have
created something baffling and dangerous.

All in all, I think the engineers haven't achieved what they set out
to do. And considered the cost and inconvenience of the works, it
doesn't seem to have been a very well conceived project.

zin92

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On 2 Apr, 03:49, "John Rowland"
wrote:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the new layout of the junction where Tunnel Avenue and Blackwall Lane
meet the A102.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the old layout.

The main change seems to be that previously you could turn right off the
northbound offslip and then turn left onto the northbound onslip (should you
so wish), whereas now the traffic turning right from the offslip is forced
into a segregated lane between the two carriageways which takes it past the
onslip without allowing access to it. The only reason I can think of for the
change is that they want to stop traffic from avoiding jams on the flyover
by coming though the junction... but since you can drive across into Tunnel
Avenue and do a comfortable leisurely U-turn back to the junction, only
losing a few seconds in the process, the change seems fairly pointless... I
saw some dangerous driver confusion while I was there, and the "No Entry"
text on the tarmac seems like an admission by the engineers that they have
created something baffling and dangerous.

Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little island amid
that traffic nightmare?

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Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 03:49, "John Rowland"
wrote:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the new layout of the junction where Tunnel Avenue and
Blackwall Lane meet the A102.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the old layout.

The main change seems to be that previously you could turn right off
the northbound offslip and then turn left onto the northbound onslip
(should you so wish), whereas now the traffic turning right from the
offslip is forced into a segregated lane between the two
carriageways which takes it past the onslip without allowing access
to it. The only reason I can think of for the change is that they
want to stop traffic from avoiding jams on the flyover by coming
though the junction... but since you can drive across into Tunnel
Avenue and do a comfortable leisurely U-turn back to the junction,
only losing a few seconds in the process, the change seems fairly
pointless... I saw some dangerous driver confusion while I was
there, and the "No Entry" text on the tarmac seems like an admission
by the engineers that they have created something baffling and
dangerous.

Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little island amid
that traffic nightmare?

They obviously like living there, why should anyone feel sorry for them?

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Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 03:49, "John Rowland"
wrote:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the new layout of the junction where Tunnel Avenue and Blackwall Lane
meet the A102.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the old layout.

The main change seems to be that previously you could turn right off the
northbound offslip and then turn left onto the northbound onslip (should you
so wish), whereas now the traffic turning right from the offslip is forced
into a segregated lane between the two carriageways which takes it past the
onslip without allowing access to it. The only reason I can think of for the
change is that they want to stop traffic from avoiding jams on the flyover
by coming though the junction... but since you can drive across into Tunnel
Avenue and do a comfortable leisurely U-turn back to the junction, only
losing a few seconds in the process, the change seems fairly pointless... I
saw some dangerous driver confusion while I was there, and the "No Entry"
text on the tarmac seems like an admission by the engineers that they have
created something baffling and dangerous.

Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little island amid
that traffic nightmare?

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And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!

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On 2 Apr, 08:40, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 03:49, "John Rowland"
wrote:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the new layout of the junction where Tunnel Avenue and Blackwall Lane
meet the A102.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the old layout.

The main change seems to be that previously you could turn right off the
northbound offslip and then turn left onto the northbound onslip (should you
so wish), whereas now the traffic turning right from the offslip is forced
into a segregated lane between the two carriageways which takes it past the
onslip without allowing access to it. The only reason I can think of for the
change is that they want to stop traffic from avoiding jams on the flyover
by coming though the junction... but since you can drive across into Tunnel
Avenue and do a comfortable leisurely U-turn back to the junction, only
losing a few seconds in the process, the change seems fairly pointless... I
saw some dangerous driver confusion while I was there, and the "No Entry"
text on the tarmac seems like an admission by the engineers that they have
created something baffling and dangerous.

Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little island amid
that traffic nightmare?


And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!

Wrong again.

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Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:40, Tony Dragon wrote:

And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!

Wrong again.

Are you denying that you live in Catford or that you made the comment?

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Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:40, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 03:49, "John Rowland"
wrote:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the new layout of the junction where Tunnel Avenue and Blackwall Lane
meet the A102.
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the old layout.
The main change seems to be that previously you could turn right off the
northbound offslip and then turn left onto the northbound onslip (should you
so wish), whereas now the traffic turning right from the offslip is forced
into a segregated lane between the two carriageways which takes it past the
onslip without allowing access to it. The only reason I can think of for the
change is that they want to stop traffic from avoiding jams on the flyover
by coming though the junction... but since you can drive across into Tunnel
Avenue and do a comfortable leisurely U-turn back to the junction, only
losing a few seconds in the process, the change seems fairly pointless... I
saw some dangerous driver confusion while I was there, and the "No Entry"
text on the tarmac seems like an admission by the engineers that they have
created something baffling and dangerous.
Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little island amid
that traffic nightmare?

And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!

Wrong again.

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Are you saying that you don't live in Catford?

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Doug (Doug ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little island amid that
traffic nightmare?

If they moved there before the roads were built, a bit.

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"Tony Dragon" wrote in message
...
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 03:49, "John Rowland"
wrote:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the new layout of the junction where Tunnel Avenue and Blackwall
Lane
meet the A102.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the old layout.

The main change seems to be that previously you could turn right off the
northbound offslip and then turn left onto the northbound onslip (should
you
so wish), whereas now the traffic turning right from the offslip is
forced
into a segregated lane between the two carriageways which takes it past
the
onslip without allowing access to it. The only reason I can think of for
the
change is that they want to stop traffic from avoiding jams on the
flyover
by coming though the junction... but since you can drive across into
Tunnel
Avenue and do a comfortable leisurely U-turn back to the junction, only
losing a few seconds in the process, the change seems fairly pointless...
I
saw some dangerous driver confusion while I was there, and the "No Entry"
text on the tarmac seems like an admission by the engineers that they
have
created something baffling and dangerous.

Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little island amid
that traffic nightmare?

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And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!

Can you call what Doug dose living? Existing maybe, but life seems to be
something that has decided not to venture near Doug for many a year now, even
our necrotic friend death doesn't seem to want to pop round for a quick cup
of tea with him.

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Adrian wrote:
Doug (Doug ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little island amid that
traffic nightmare?

If they moved there before the roads were built, a bit.

When WERE the Blackwall Tunnel and Tunnel Avenue built? :-)

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JNugent (JNugent ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little island amid
that traffic nightmare?

If they moved there before the roads were built, a bit.

When WERE the Blackwall Tunnel and Tunnel Avenue built? :-)

The Blackwall Tunnel was opened in 1897.

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Adrian wrote:

JNugent (JNugent ):

Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little island amid
that traffic nightmare?

If they moved there before the roads were built, a bit.

When WERE the Blackwall Tunnel and Tunnel Avenue built? :-)

The Blackwall Tunnel was opened in 1897.

Tunnel Avenue - the main southerly connection from the tunnel until the
building of the former A102(M) - must be as old.

Anyone moving there since 1897 must have been aware that they were going
to be living on a main traffic artery.

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On 2 Apr, 08:42, Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:40, Tony Dragon wrote:



Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 03:49, "John Rowland"
wrote:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the new layout of the junction where Tunnel Avenue and Blackwall Lane
meet the A102.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the old layout.

The main change seems to be that previously you could turn right off the
northbound offslip and then turn left onto the northbound onslip (should you
so wish), whereas now the traffic turning right from the offslip is forced
into a segregated lane between the two carriageways which takes it past the
onslip without allowing access to it. The only reason I can think of for the
change is that they want to stop traffic from avoiding jams on the flyover
by coming though the junction... but since you can drive across into Tunnel
Avenue and do a comfortable leisurely U-turn back to the junction, only
losing a few seconds in the process, the change seems fairly pointless... I
saw some dangerous driver confusion while I was there, and the "No Entry"
text on the tarmac seems like an admission by the engineers that they have
created something baffling and dangerous.

Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little island amid
that traffic nightmare?

And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!

Wrong again.

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Wrong again it what respect, that you did not say that comment, or
that you do not live in Catford?

Please tell us to clear up any missunderstanding.

Francis

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On 2 Apr, 08:44, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:40, Tony Dragon wrote:
And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!

Wrong again.

Are you denying that you live in Catford or that you made the comment?

Both. Why do you ask?

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Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:44, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:40, Tony Dragon wrote:
And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!

Wrong again.

Are you denying that you live in Catford or that you made the
comment?

Both. Why do you ask?

So you didn't post "Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little
island amid that traffic nightmare?" and you don't live in Catford?

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Brimstone wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:44, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:40, Tony Dragon wrote:
And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!
Wrong again.
Are you denying that you live in Catford or that you made the
comment?
Both. Why do you ask?

So you didn't post "Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little
island amid that traffic nightmare?" and you don't live in Catford?




He is a little forgetful, and it was not today that he posted it.

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On 3 Apr, 08:20, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:44, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:40, Tony Dragon wrote:
And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!

Wrong again.

Are you denying that you live in Catford or that you made the
comment?

Both. Why do you ask?

So you didn't post "Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little
island amid that traffic nightmare?" and you don't live in Catford?

You haven't explained why you asked.

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Doug wrote:
On 3 Apr, 08:20, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:44, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:40, Tony Dragon wrote:
And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!

Wrong again.

Are you denying that you live in Catford or that you made the
comment?

Both. Why do you ask?

So you didn't post "Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that
little island amid that traffic nightmare?" and you don't live in
Catford?

You haven't explained why you asked.

Clarification. Now, answer the question, "So you didn't post "Don't you feel
sorry for those who live on that little island amid that traffic nightmare?"
and you don't live in Catford?"

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Doug wrote:
On 3 Apr, 08:20, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:44, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:40, Tony Dragon wrote:
And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!
Wrong again.
Are you denying that you live in Catford or that you made the
comment?
Both. Why do you ask?
So you didn't post "Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little
island amid that traffic nightmare?" and you don't live in Catford?

You haven't explained why you asked.

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I think he asked to clear up any confusion, why have you not answered?

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On 3 Apr, 19:27, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 3 Apr, 08:20, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:44, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:40, Tony Dragon wrote:
And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!

Wrong again.

Are you denying that you live in Catford or that you made the
comment?

Both. Why do you ask?

So you didn't post "Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that
little island amid that traffic nightmare?" and you don't live in
Catford?

You haven't explained why you asked.

Clarification. Now, answer the question, "So you didn't post "Don't you feel
sorry for those who live on that little island amid that traffic nightmare?"
and you don't live in Catford?"

No you are quite wrong as usual. I was avoiding your little semantic
diversion and was responding to the original statement. So, it was not
written by someone who lives in Catford and I don't live in Catford,
hence 'Both'. Do you understand now or do you wish to continue with
your pointless prevarication?

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Doug wrote:
On 3 Apr, 19:27, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 3 Apr, 08:20, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:44, "Brimstone"
wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:40, Tony Dragon wrote:
And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!

Wrong again.

Are you denying that you live in Catford or that you made the
comment?

Both. Why do you ask?

So you didn't post "Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that
little island amid that traffic nightmare?" and you don't live in
Catford?

You haven't explained why you asked.

Clarification. Now, answer the question, "So you didn't post "Don't
you feel sorry for those who live on that little island amid that
traffic nightmare?" and you don't live in Catford?"

No you are quite wrong as usual. I was avoiding your little semantic
diversion and was responding to the original statement. So, it was not
written by someone who lives in Catford and I don't live in Catford,
hence 'Both'. Do you understand now or do you wish to continue with
your pointless prevarication?

When and where have you moved to?

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On 4 Apr, 06:59, Doug wrote:
On 3 Apr, 19:27, "Brimstone" wrote:





Doug wrote:
On 3 Apr, 08:20, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:44, "Brimstone" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 08:40, Tony Dragon wrote:
And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!

Wrong again.

Are you denying that you live in Catford or that you made the
comment?

Both. Why do you ask?

So you didn't post "Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that
little island amid that traffic nightmare?" and you don't live in
Catford?

You haven't explained why you asked.

Clarification. Now, answer the question, "So you didn't post "Don't you feel
sorry for those who live on that little island amid that traffic nightmare?"
and you don't live in Catford?"

No you are quite wrong as usual. I was avoiding your little semantic
diversion and was responding to the original statement. So, it was not
written by someone who lives in Catford and I don't live in Catford,

Do you really think a single person is, or ever has been, taken in by
your pathetic little charade? It has been proven time and time again
that you are Doug Bollen of Catford.

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Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Apr, 03:49, "John Rowland"
wrote:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the new layout of the junction where Tunnel Avenue and
Blackwall Lane
meet the A102.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tyle=o&lvl=2&t...
shows the old layout.

The main change seems to be that previously you could turn right off the
northbound offslip and then turn left onto the northbound onslip
(should you
so wish), whereas now the traffic turning right from the offslip is
forced
into a segregated lane between the two carriageways which takes it
past the
onslip without allowing access to it. The only reason I can think of
for the
change is that they want to stop traffic from avoiding jams on the
flyover
by coming though the junction... but since you can drive across into
Tunnel
Avenue and do a comfortable leisurely U-turn back to the junction, only
losing a few seconds in the process, the change seems fairly
pointless... I
saw some dangerous driver confusion while I was there, and the "No
Entry"
text on the tarmac seems like an admission by the engineers that they
have
created something baffling and dangerous.

Don't you feel sorry for those who live on that little island amid
that traffic nightmare?

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And this comment comes from somebody who lives in Catford!


Are you sure that "lives" is the correct term?

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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 01:15:17 -0700 (PDT), Brian Whitehead
wrote:

Do you really think a single person is, or ever has been, taken in by
your pathetic little charade? It has been proven time and time again
that you are Doug Bollen of Catford.

One question, if I may: why should I care?

I assume this is some long-running uk.transport feud that has found
itself cross-posted into utl.

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James Farrar wrote:
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 01:15:17 -0700 (PDT), Brian Whitehead
wrote:

Do you really think a single person is, or ever has been, taken in by
your pathetic little charade? It has been proven time and time again
that you are Doug Bollen of Catford.

One question, if I may: why should I care?

I assume this is some long-running uk.transport feud that has found
itself cross-posted into utl.

If you are not a denizen of uk.transport then it's probably best if you do
ignore the comments made to and about our resident serial liar and
hypocrite.

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Brimstone wrote:
James Farrar wrote:
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 01:15:17 -0700 (PDT), Brian Whitehead
wrote:

Do you really think a single person is, or ever has been, taken in
by your pathetic little charade? It has been proven time and time
again that you are Doug Bollen of Catford.

One question, if I may: why should I care?

I assume this is some long-running uk.transport feud that has found
itself cross-posted into utl.

If you are not a denizen of uk.transport then it's probably best if
you do ignore the comments made to and about our resident serial liar
and hypocrite.

If you *are* a denizen of uk.transport then it's also probably best if you
do ignore the comments made to and about our resident serial liar and
hypocrite.

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John Rowland wrote:
Brimstone wrote:
James Farrar wrote:
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 01:15:17 -0700 (PDT), Brian Whitehead
wrote:

Do you really think a single person is, or ever has been, taken in
by your pathetic little charade? It has been proven time and time
again that you are Doug Bollen of Catford.

One question, if I may: why should I care?

I assume this is some long-running uk.transport feud that has found
itself cross-posted into utl.

If you are not a denizen of uk.transport then it's probably best if
you do ignore the comments made to and about our resident serial liar
and hypocrite.

If you *are* a denizen of uk.transport then it's also probably best
if you do ignore the comments made to and about our resident serial
liar and hypocrite.

As one chooses.

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On 4 Apr, 15:08, James Farrar wrote:
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 01:15:17 -0700 (PDT), Brian Whitehead

wrote:
Do you really think a single person is, or ever has been, taken in by
your pathetic little charade? *It has been proven time and time again
that you are Doug Bollen of Catford.

One question, if I may: why should I care?

I assume this is some long-running uk.transport feud that has found
itself cross-posted into utl.

I didn't realise this was cross-posted into other groups. Pls feel
free to ignore anything we say about Doug Bollen of Catford.

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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 15:12:48 +0100, "Brimstone"
wrote:

James Farrar wrote:
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 01:15:17 -0700 (PDT), Brian Whitehead
wrote:

Do you really think a single person is, or ever has been, taken in by
your pathetic little charade? It has been proven time and time again
that you are Doug Bollen of Catford.

One question, if I may: why should I care?

I assume this is some long-running uk.transport feud that has found
itself cross-posted into utl.

If you are not a denizen of uk.transport then it's probably best if you do
ignore the comments made to and about our resident serial liar and
hypocrite.

In that case, may I request that those in uk.transport who make such
comments remove other groups from the Newsgroups: line when making
them. Thanks. FU set.