On 2 Apr, 22:44, Boltar wrote:
Curiously , looking at google earth and some pics online the track for
the croxley line is still in situ, even the conductor rail, except
that most of the bridges have been removed.

It mostly goes under roads - the few underbridges still seem to be
intact, apart from where it's been severed near the far end by the
bypass. The track was all still there when I walked the route in
December, including beyond the sever.

Or is this a new form of mothballing?

Strategic Rail Authority notices still up at the stations propose the
line will be closed on 18 June 2001. It also notes that services have
been "suspended" since 24 August 1996 for the construction of the
bypass.

U

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On 2 Apr, 23:30, Tom Anderson wrote:
And heading north. I saw a mention of a branch that was built to the
Croxley printworks - is this it? Seems a bit mad that this railway built
two separate branches that went to almost the same place. No wonder they
went bust.

The London Railway Atlas* says the branch to the north goes to
"Croxley Mill", very near Croxley Green station.

(* You really should buy a copy)

U

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On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:49:39 -0700 (PDT), Mr Thant
wrote:

On 2 Apr, 23:30, Tom Anderson wrote:
And heading north. I saw a mention of a branch that was built to the
Croxley printworks - is this it? Seems a bit mad that this railway built
two separate branches that went to almost the same place. No wonder they
went bust.

The London Railway Atlas* says the branch to the north goes to
"Croxley Mill", very near Croxley Green station.

(* You really should buy a copy)

The two branches (Rickmansworth and Croxley Green) were built by
different companies at different times. Rickmansworth was first in the
1860s by a local company and Croxley Green later by the LNWR using
part of the route to Rickmansworth (later re-used again for the DC
line from Watford Junction to Watford High Street and Croxley depot).
If I'm remembering the location of Croxley Mills correctly then it was
effectively just a siding built off an existing railway.

On Apr 3, 3:15*am, Charles Ellson wrote:
The two branches (Rickmansworth and Croxley Green) were built by
different companies at different times. Rickmansworth was first in the
1860s by a local company and Croxley Green later by the LNWR using
part of the route to Rickmansworth (later re-used again for the DC
line from Watford Junction to Watford High Street and Croxley depot).
If I'm remembering the location of Croxley Mills correctly then it was
effectively just a siding built off an existing railway.

The history of the various railways between Watford and Ricky is
covered in the excellent "West of Watford" by F.W. Goudie and D.
Stuckey, published by Forge Books in 1990 (ISBN 0 9046 6218 7).
Unfortunately this book is long out of print and is now as rare as
hen's teeth, but is well worth tracking down.

On that note, the copies supposedly available on Amazon are all
actually "Railways of Richmond" from the same publisher and only
appear as WoW thanks to an ISBN transposition error.

THC

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article
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(Mr Thant) wrote:

On 2 Apr, 19:47, Tom Anderson wrote:
Although now i'm confused about who owns the lines round there.

Anything electrified is LUL, anything not is NR. Thus all tracks
between HotH and Amersham are LUL.

Also, what were the railways around Watford like before they got
axed and mothballed and so on?

I made a map of it during a moment of boredom a while ago:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=...eb4e8&t=h&z=14

Line 4?

Could it be an escaped reference to the defunct Crossrail branch? Except i
think that would have been Corridor D rather than Line 4.

tom

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On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Mr Thant wrote:

On 2 Apr, 23:30, Tom Anderson wrote:

And heading north. I saw a mention of a branch that was built to the
Croxley printworks - is this it? Seems a bit mad that this railway built
two separate branches that went to almost the same place. No wonder they
went bust.

The London Railway Atlas* says the branch to the north goes to
"Croxley Mill", very near Croxley Green station.

Okay. A bit of digging reveals that this mill was a paper mill, built by a
John Dickinson. Printworks was almost right!

(* You really should buy a copy)

Yes sir. Sorry sir.

tom

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Sorry. Went a bit Atari Teenage Riot there. -- Andrew

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Charles Ellson wrote:

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:49:39 -0700 (PDT), Mr Thant
wrote:

On 2 Apr, 23:30, Tom Anderson wrote:
And heading north. I saw a mention of a branch that was built to the
Croxley printworks - is this it? Seems a bit mad that this railway built
two separate branches that went to almost the same place. No wonder they
went bust.

The London Railway Atlas* says the branch to the north goes to
"Croxley Mill", very near Croxley Green station.

(* You really should buy a copy)

The two branches (Rickmansworth and Croxley Green) were built by
different companies at different times. Rickmansworth was first in the
1860s by a local company and Croxley Green later by the LNWR using
part of the route to Rickmansworth

But after the LNWR had bought the local company, no?

(later re-used again for the DC line from Watford Junction to Watford
High Street and Croxley depot). If I'm remembering the location of
Croxley Mills correctly then it was effectively just a siding built off
an existing railway.

Yes, that's about right.

tom

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Sorry. Went a bit Atari Teenage Riot there. -- Andrew

On 3 Apr, 18:57, Tom Anderson wrote:
Line 4?

Could it be an escaped reference to the defunct Crossrail branch?

Yes, exactly that.

Funnily enough, also the default name Google Maps gave it.

U

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On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 19:04:43 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Charles Ellson wrote:

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:49:39 -0700 (PDT), Mr Thant
wrote:

On 2 Apr, 23:30, Tom Anderson wrote:
And heading north. I saw a mention of a branch that was built to the
Croxley printworks - is this it? Seems a bit mad that this railway built
two separate branches that went to almost the same place. No wonder they
went bust.

The London Railway Atlas* says the branch to the north goes to
"Croxley Mill", very near Croxley Green station.

(* You really should buy a copy)

The two branches (Rickmansworth and Croxley Green) were built by
different companies at different times. Rickmansworth was first in the
1860s by a local company and Croxley Green later by the LNWR using
part of the route to Rickmansworth

But after the LNWR had bought the local company, no?

Eventually. It was one of several lines (real and theoretical) which
would have eventually provided a by-pass route toward the Great
Western which might or might not have been dropped by the time the
LNWR took over. The line originally had two full-length through
platforms (or a platform? the 1898 OS map suggests one but ISTR a
track diagram showing two) at Watford Junction, the southern end(s) of
which have became DC line platforms.

(later re-used again for the DC line from Watford Junction to Watford
High Street and Croxley depot). If I'm remembering the location of
Croxley Mills correctly then it was effectively just a siding built off
an existing railway.

Yes, that's about right.

tom

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:01:21 -0700 (PDT), Boltar wrote:

"The Croxley Rail Link is not just the icing on the cake for the
people of West Watford, it is the cherry on the icing of the cake."

Unless they're travelling to harrow or some other nearby suburb , why
would someone get the met from watford junction and be taken on a tour
of north west london when they could get a direct train to euston
instead?

Watford West hasn't had a direct service to Euston for a very long
time.