PAYG Ealing Broadway - Greenford
 

I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

PAYG Ealing Broadway - Greenford
 

On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:

I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.


But this isn't anything new, as Oyster PAYG has been valid between
Ealing Broadway and Greenford since January!

My evidence being the 2008 fares booklet - specifically page 19
detailing Oyster PAYG validity on National Rail (PDF)...
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...s-08-01-02.pdf

....and also the January Oyster PAYG valid routes map (PDF)...
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...G-08-01-02.pdf

PAYG Ealing Broadway - Greenford
 

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:19:36 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:


On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:

I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.


But this isn't anything new, as Oyster PAYG has been valid between
Ealing Broadway and Greenford since January!

My evidence being the 2008 fares booklet - specifically page 19
detailing Oyster PAYG validity on National Rail (PDF)...
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...s-08-01-02.pdf

...and also the January Oyster PAYG valid routes map (PDF)...
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...G-08-01-02.pdf

Fair enough - I'm only repeating what I read in an official document
that particularly emphasised this point.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

PAYG Ealing Broadway - Greenford
 

On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:
I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. *Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.

I wonder how the rules would apply to a person who used PAYG to board
at one end of the line intending to travel to the other but then for
some sensible and unforseeable reason (received a message their
appointment was cancelled, felt sick, was frightened by hooligans on
board, etc) changed their mind and got off earlier?

PAYG Ealing Broadway - Greenford
 

On 17 Apr, 14:02, Jon wrote:

On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:
I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.

I wonder how the rules would apply to a person who used PAYG to board
at one end of the line intending to travel to the other but then for
some sensible and unforseeable reason (received a message their
appointment was cancelled, felt sick, was frightened by hooligans on
board, etc) changed their mind and got off earlier?


They'd automatically be charged the £4 'penalty' fare for an
uncompleted journey if they only touched-in and didn't touch-out (or
likewise didn't touch-in and only touched-out).

However the plan is for standalone Oyster readers to be installed at
the intermediate stations so Oyster PAYG could be used to start or
finish a journey at any station on the line.

PAYG Ealing Broadway - Greenford
 

On 17 Apr, 14:02, Jon wrote:
On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote: I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. *Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.

I wonder how the rules would apply to a person who used PAYG to board
at one end of the line intending to travel to the other but then for
some sensible and unforseeable reason (received a message their
appointment was cancelled, felt sick, was frightened by hooligans on
board, etc) changed their mind and got off earlier?

In this case the intermediate stations are deserted halts so the worst
that could happen is there being nowhere to touch out.

U

PAYG Ealing Broadway - Greenford
 

On Apr 16, 10:19*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:



I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. *Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.

But this isn't anything new, as Oyster PAYG has been valid between
Ealing Broadway and Greenford since January!

My first thought was that's it's been valid a lot longer than that,
via North Acton.

Maybe if there aren't any ticket checks or barriers on the FGW trains
and stations, it's a recognition that people are going to go that way
anyway.

PAYG Ealing Broadway - Greenford
 

On Apr 17, 2:53*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On 17 Apr, 14:02, Jon wrote:

On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:
I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. *Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.

I wonder how the rules would apply to a person who used PAYG to board
at one end of the line intending to travel to the other but then for
some sensible and unforseeable reason (received a message their
appointment was cancelled, felt sick, was frightened by hooligans on
board, etc) changed their mind and got off earlier?

They'd automatically be charged the £4 'penalty' fare for an
uncompleted journey if they only touched-in and didn't touch-out (or
likewise didn't touch-in and only touched-out).

However the plan is for standalone Oyster readers to be installed at
the intermediate stations so Oyster PAYG could be used to start or
finish a journey at any station on the line.

Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?

PAYG Ealing Broadway - Greenford
 

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:16:09 -0700 (PDT), MIG
wrote:

Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?

I knew Ken wanted to stretch his influence over the rail network but
Liverpool? ;-)

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

PAYG Ealing Broadway - Greenford
 

On Apr 17, 9:51*pm, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:16:09 -0700 (PDT), MIG

wrote:
Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?

I knew Ken wanted to stretch his influence over the rail network but
Liverpool? *;-)

I was thinking in American (due to an incident at Whitechapel about
thirty years ago that has evidently scarred me for life).

PAYG Ealing Broadway - Greenford
 

MIG wrote in
:


However the plan is for standalone Oyster readers to be installed at
the intermediate stations so Oyster PAYG could be used to start or
finish a journey at any station on the line.

Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?



Hasn't it already happened?

http://www.nationalexpresseastanglia...ort_for_london

David

PAYG Ealing Broadway - Greenford
 

On 17 Apr 2008 MIG wrote in

m:

On Apr 16, 10:19*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:



I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing
Broadway - Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW
services with immediate effect. *Note that the planned
extension of validity to Paddington has NOT occurred yet.

But this isn't anything new, as Oyster PAYG has been valid
between Ealing Broadway and Greenford since January!

My first thought was that's it's been valid a lot longer than
that, via North Acton.

Maybe if there aren't any ticket checks or barriers on the FGW
trains and stations, it's a recognition that people are going to
go that way anyway.

There are occaisonal ticket checks on the overpass between
Underground / platform 4 at Ealing and plaforms 1,2 and 3 but no
permanent barriers. Don't know about Greenford.

That said I'm sure I saw someone getting pulled by one of the ticket
checks a couple of weeks a go because she was travelling on PAYG.

--
Graham Drabble
http://www.drabble.me.uk/

PAYG Ealing Broadway - Greenford
 

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Paul Corfield wrote:

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:16:09 -0700 (PDT), MIG
wrote:

Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?

I knew Ken wanted to stretch his influence over the rail network but
Liverpool? ;-)

He's thinking ahead - that means that when Boris gets in, he can use his
staff pass next time he has to go up there to apologise.

tom

--
mimeotraditionalists

PAYG Ealing Broadway - Greenford
 

On Apr 17, 10:16*pm, David Jackman pleasereplytogroup wrote:
MIG wrote :



However the plan is for standalone Oyster readers to be installed at
the intermediate stations so Oyster PAYG could be used to start or
finish a journey at any station on the line.

Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?

Hasn't it already happened?

http://www.nationalexpresseastanglia...ansport_for_lo...

In January 2008 it would seem. Tar.

PAYG Ealing Broadway - Greenford
 

On 18 Apr, 00:56, MIG wrote:

On Apr 17, 10:16 pm, David Jackman pleasereplytogroup wrote:

MIG wrote:

However the plan is for standalone Oyster readers to be installed at
the intermediate stations so Oyster PAYG could be used to start or
finish a journey at any station on the line.

Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?

Hasn't it already happened?

http://www.nationalexpresseastanglia...ansport_for_lo...

In January 2008 it would seem. Tar.

I've made use of PAYG on these routes a bit already, and very handy it
is too. Hackney Central to Hackney Downs is, as one would hope and
expect, an out-of-station interchange - making such a transfer throws
the pretty grimey Hackney Downs station into sharp contrast with the
increasingly well cared for Hackney Central, which of course is now in
the custodianship of London Overground. Which is a shame, as the very
frequent service in and out of Liverpool St is otherwise makes Hackney
Downs quite an attractive proposition.

Going back to out-of-station interchanges, I think it'd be neat if
Liverpool St to Moorgate was designated as one, at least for PAYG
purposes - I'd much rather just walk the short distance between the
two than have to catch the Circle/Met/H&C one stop, and it could also
take a little bit of the pressure off Liverpool St Underground station.