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A good day for burying good news - ELL Phase 2
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http://www.itvlocal.com/london/mayor/?void=178830 The ever-assiduous Mr U Thant has a scoop in that Ken Livingstone when being forced into a corner over the Stockwell shooting by the running dogs of the ITV News clique, aided by Boris Wothisname and Hugh Thingumi - the lickspittle jackals daring to stand against the great leader as Mayor, disclosed that the extension of the ELL Phase 2 from Surrey Quays to Clapham Junction has been authorised by the DfT. That news was supposed to be a secret under the “We can’t tell what is going on because there is an election about to happen regulations”. This rare species should not be confused with the “We are not going to tell you what is going on because there is an election going on.” However, since nobody watches ITV these days – Ken’s breach of the rules will probably not be noticed – until some babbling bloggermouth comes along. Well done U. |
A good day for burying good news - ELL Phase 2
On Apr 23, 6:35 am, Mwmbwls wrote:
http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ http://www.itvlocal.com/london/mayor/?void=178830 The ever-assiduous Mr U Thant has a scoop in that Ken Livingstone when being forced into a corner over the Stockwell shooting by the running dogs of the ITV News clique, aided by Boris Wothisname and Hugh Thingumi - Brian Thingumi ? |
A good day for burying good news - ELL Phase 2
"TimB" wrote in message ... On Apr 23, 6:35 am, Mwmbwls wrote: http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ http://www.itvlocal.com/london/mayor/?void=178830 The ever-assiduous Mr U Thant has a scoop in that Ken Livingstone when being forced into a corner over the Stockwell shooting by the running dogs of the ITV News clique, aided by Boris Wothisname and Hugh Thingumi - Brian Thingumi ? Veering OT a bit is media coverage about the concept of elected mayors legitimate at this time? The headline, picture and caption could be seen as an endorsement of the encumbent perhaps... Paul |
A good day for burying good news - ELL Phase 2
"Paul Scott" wrote in message ... "TimB" wrote in message ... On Apr 23, 6:35 am, Mwmbwls wrote: http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ http://www.itvlocal.com/london/mayor/?void=178830 The ever-assiduous Mr U Thant has a scoop in that Ken Livingstone when being forced into a corner over the Stockwell shooting by the running dogs of the ITV News clique, aided by Boris Wothisname and Hugh Thingumi - Brian Thingumi ? Veering OT a bit is media coverage about the concept of elected mayors legitimate at this time? The headline, picture and caption could be seen as an endorsement of the encumbent perhaps... Er... including link this time: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7362110.stm Paul |
A good day for burying good news - ELL Phase 2
On 23 Apr, 06:35, Mwmbwls wrote: http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ http://www.itvlocal.com/london/mayor/?void=178830 The ever-assiduous Mr U Thant has a scoop in that Ken Livingstone when being forced into a corner over the Stockwell shooting by the running dogs of the ITV News clique, aided by Boris Wothisname and Hugh Thingumi - the lickspittle jackals daring to stand against the great leader as Mayor, disclosed that the extension of the ELL Phase 2 from Surrey Quays to Clapham Junction has been authorised by the DfT. That news was supposed to be a secret under the “We can’t tell what is going on because there is an election about to happen regulations”. This rare species should not be confused with the “We are not going to tell you what is going on because there is an election going on.” However, since nobody watches ITV these days – Ken’s breach of the rules will probably not be noticed – until some babbling bloggermouth comes along. Well done U. I wouldn't say that Livingstone was being forced into a corner there but that's another matter. The relevant entry on Mr Thant's blog (and I believe I'm right in saying that it's either Mr Thant or U Thant, not Mr U Thant which would translate as Mr Mr Thant!) is he http://londonconnections.blogspot.co...-junction.html I'm pretty sure Mayor Ken's off-the-cuff comment accurately reflects the fact that DfT/ central government have decided to fund ELLX phase 2 as 'enabling works' for the Thameslink Programme. In the comments under the above blog entry I speculate as to whether the DfT had basically already made this decision, having reviewed the draft South London RUS, but were waiting for the final version to be published by Network Rail, and thus whether there was ever perhaps some hope that this could be officially announced before 18 March when the pre- election 'purdah' rules kicked-in. In the event Network Rail published the RUS on 31 March, which was two weeks too late for such an announcement. Network Rail, of course, isn't really a political animal - or perhaps that should read 'isn't a really political animal'. |
A good day for burying good news - ELL Phase 2
On 23 Apr, 09:57, "Paul Scott" wrote: "Paul Scott" wrote: "TimB" wrote: On Apr 23, 6:35 am, Mwmbwls wrote: http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ http://www.itvlocal.com/london/mayor/?void=178830 The ever-assiduous Mr U Thant has a scoop in that Ken Livingstone when being forced into a corner over the Stockwell shooting by the running dogs of the ITV News clique, aided by Boris Wothisname and Hugh Thingumi - Brian Thingumi ? Veering OT a bit is media coverage about the concept of elected mayors legitimate at this time? The headline, picture and caption could be seen as an endorsement of the encumbent perhaps... Er... including link this time: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7362110.stm It's not a public body making that announcement so of course they're not covered by 'purdah'. And the Beeb is just reporting what the IPPR are saying - in actual fact what appears in a paper in the IPPR's quarterly journal: http://www.ippr.org/pressreleases/?id=3103 Given the attention that the London Mayoral election is getting nationally at the moment, it's perhaps as good a time as any for the IPPR to come out with this to get maximum attention. I don't think the headline, picture or caption on the BBC story is really anything other than illustrative of the story itself. It's certainly not an endorsement. Obviously, as a broadcaster the BBC needs to take care to ensure that their reportage is balanced and impartial, but these concerns shouldn't mean they are completely hidebound from reporting what's going on. |
A good day for burying good news - ELL Phase 2
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Mwmbwls wrote:
http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ http://www.itvlocal.com/london/mayor/?void=178830 The ever-assiduous Mr U Thant has a scoop in that Ken Livingstone when being forced into a corner over the Stockwell shooting by the running dogs of the ITV News clique, aided by Boris Wothisname and Hugh Thingumi - the lickspittle jackals daring to stand against the great leader as Mayor, disclosed that the extension of the ELL Phase 2 from Surrey Quays to Clapham Junction has been authorised by the DfT. Didn't we already know this at least as far back as the South London RUS? They're going to withdraw some existing NR services into London Bridge along that corridor, so they need to bring the ELL forward to maintain the level of service (FSVO 'service' where a train to Whitechapel counts the same as a train to London Bridge). tom -- YOU CANT TAKE AWAY HATGUYS HAT. THEN HE IS JUST GUY -- The_Toad |
A good day for burying good news - ELL Phase 2
"Tom Anderson" wrote in message h.li... On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Mwmbwls wrote: http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ http://www.itvlocal.com/london/mayor/?void=178830 The ever-assiduous Mr U Thant has a scoop in that Ken Livingstone when being forced into a corner over the Stockwell shooting by the running dogs of the ITV News clique, aided by Boris Wothisname and Hugh Thingumi - the lickspittle jackals daring to stand against the great leader as Mayor, disclosed that the extension of the ELL Phase 2 from Surrey Quays to Clapham Junction has been authorised by the DfT. Didn't we already know this at least as far back as the South London RUS? They're going to withdraw some existing NR services into London Bridge along that corridor, so they need to bring the ELL forward to maintain the level of service (FSVO 'service' where a train to Whitechapel counts the same as a train to London Bridge). Only in so far as NR were recommending this as a solution - it would still need DfT to potentiallly earmark Thameslink funding to support TfL's project. An RUS proposal doesn't guarantee funds are forthcoming unfortunately... Paul S |
A good day for burying good news - ELL Phase 2
On 23 Apr, 12:32, "Paul Scott" wrote: "Tom Anderson" wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Mwmbwls wrote: http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ http://www.itvlocal.com/london/mayor/?void=178830 The ever-assiduous Mr U Thant has a scoop in that Ken Livingstone when being forced into a corner over the Stockwell shooting by the running dogs of the ITV News clique, aided by Boris Wothisname and Hugh Thingumi - the lickspittle jackals daring to stand against the great leader as Mayor, disclosed that the extension of the ELL Phase 2 from Surrey Quays to Clapham Junction has been authorised by the DfT. Didn't we already know this at least as far back as the South London RUS? They're going to withdraw some existing NR services into London Bridge along that corridor, so they need to bring the ELL forward to maintain the level of service (FSVO 'service' where a train to Whitechapel counts the same as a train to London Bridge). Only in so far as NR were recommending this as a solution - it would still need DfT to potentiallly earmark Thameslink funding to support TfL's project. An RUS proposal doesn't guarantee funds are forthcoming unfortunately... Indeed, the plan as outlined in the RUS was only a recommendation - and when Tom says "as far back as the South London RUS" he should bear in mind that the final version of the South London RUS (as opposed to the draft for consultation) was only published on 31 March. The DfT could have turned round and said 'balls to that', but it would appear they haven't, and have in fact endorsed the plan outlined in the RUS. |
A good day for burying good news - ELL Phase 2
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Mizter T wrote:
On 23 Apr, 12:32, "Paul Scott" wrote: "Tom Anderson" wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Mwmbwls wrote: http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ http://www.itvlocal.com/london/mayor/?void=178830 The ever-assiduous Mr U Thant has a scoop in that Ken Livingstone when being forced into a corner over the Stockwell shooting by the running dogs of the ITV News clique, aided by Boris Wothisname and Hugh Thingumi - the lickspittle jackals daring to stand against the great leader as Mayor, disclosed that the extension of the ELL Phase 2 from Surrey Quays to Clapham Junction has been authorised by the DfT. Didn't we already know this at least as far back as the South London RUS? They're going to withdraw some existing NR services into London Bridge along that corridor, so they need to bring the ELL forward to maintain the level of service (FSVO 'service' where a train to Whitechapel counts the same as a train to London Bridge). Only in so far as NR were recommending this as a solution - it would still need DfT to potentiallly earmark Thameslink funding to support TfL's project. An RUS proposal doesn't guarantee funds are forthcoming unfortunately... Indeed, the plan as outlined in the RUS was only a recommendation - and when Tom says "as far back as the South London RUS" he should bear in mind that the final version of the South London RUS (as opposed to the draft for consultation) was only published on 31 March. Exactly - *weeks* ago! Anyway, thanks, i stand corrected. I had this idea that it had already been confirmed; maybe it was just that it was sort of obviously the right option. Not that this would stop the DfT from not taking it. tom -- YOU CANT TAKE AWAY HATGUYS HAT. THEN HE IS JUST GUY -- The_Toad |
A good day for burying good news - ELL Phase 2
Mizter T wrote:
On 23 Apr, 09:57, "Paul Scott" wrote: "Paul Scott" wrote: "TimB" wrote: On Apr 23, 6:35 am, Mwmbwls wrote: http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ http://www.itvlocal.com/london/mayor/?void=178830 The ever-assiduous Mr U Thant has a scoop in that Ken Livingstone when being forced into a corner over the Stockwell shooting by the running dogs of the ITV News clique, aided by Boris Wothisname and Hugh Thingumi - Brian Thingumi ? Veering OT a bit is media coverage about the concept of elected mayors legitimate at this time? The headline, picture and caption could be seen as an endorsement of the encumbent perhaps... Er... including link this time: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7362110.stm It's not a public body making that announcement so of course they're not covered by 'purdah'. And the Beeb is just reporting what the IPPR are saying - in actual fact what appears in a paper in the IPPR's quarterly journal: http://www.ippr.org/pressreleases/?id=3103 Given the attention that the London Mayoral election is getting nationally at the moment, it's perhaps as good a time as any for the IPPR to come out with this to get maximum attention. I don't think the headline, picture or caption on the BBC story is really anything other than illustrative of the story itself. It's certainly not an endorsement. Obviously, as a broadcaster the BBC needs to take care to ensure that their reportage is balanced and impartial, but these concerns shouldn't mean they are completely hidebound from reporting what's going on. Given the Beeb's percevied ability to get the wrong picture to illustrate a story, we can be thankful it's not a picture of David Livingstone! |
A good day for burying good news - ELL Phase 2
Thank you - I stand corrected for not knowing my Thant from my
Thingumis. This outbreak of common sense displayed by the DfT in this matter should will be rewarded in better construction project management and reduced rolling stock and traction procurement costs.Is there going to be another rolling stock repeat order soon? And who in the DfT is going to realise that this clever wheeze could work elsewhere? |
A good day for burying good news - ELL Phase 2
On 24 Apr, 06:54, Mwmbwls wrote: Thank you - I stand corrected for not knowing my Thant from my Thingumis. This outbreak of common sense displayed by the DfT in this matter should will be rewarded in better construction project management and reduced rolling stock and traction procurement costs.Is there going to be another rolling stock repeat order soon? And who in the DfT is going to realise that this clever wheeze could work elsewhere? May I suggest that this outbreak of common sense at the DfT can be significantly attributed to the clear case set out by Network Rail in the RUS and the persuasive arguments laid out by TfL and Mayor Ken. Though as I say elsewhere on this thread, I wonder whether Network Rail was quite attuned to the timetable of events, in that I'm sure that some would have been very keen for this announcement to have been made before the Mayoral election 'purdah' (or news blackout) kicked in. |
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