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Mr Thant April 27th 08 07:26 AM

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On 26 Apr, 22:03, Mwmbwls wrote:
Somewhere in the back of Mwmbwls memory marbles bag is the
recollection that longer NLL trains will operate to Stratford during
the Olympics - IIRC some of the NLL stations used to accomodate longer
peak hour trains into Broad Street - any idea which ones. Has the
longer trains idea been abandoned?


I think the original plan for the NLL upgrade was 6 cars. There aren't
many platforms longer than 3 or 4 cars, and by 2012 the Overground
fleet will be 4 cars per unit, so 6 cars won't be an option (unless
they get the 313s back for the extra services).

U

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John Rowland April 27th 08 12:06 PM

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Mizter T wrote:

Anyway, if we're utilising such spurious reasoning then one could also
ask the question "Doesn't the fact that all the Nazis are supporting
Boris Ken tell you anything?"

For the context of the above:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...ondon08.london


Oh The Guardian, that's a reliable source. I only know one person who's
voting BNP, and he's giving his second vote to Ken because he hates Boris so
much.




Colin Rosenstiel April 27th 08 02:18 PM

Oh No Kenny O
 
In article
,
(Mr Thant) wrote:

On 26 Apr, 22:03, Mwmbwls wrote:
Somewhere in the back of Mwmbwls memory marbles bag is the
recollection that longer NLL trains will operate to Stratford during
the Olympics - IIRC some of the NLL stations used to accomodate

longer
peak hour trains into Broad Street - any idea which ones. Has the
longer trains idea been abandoned?


I think the original plan for the NLL upgrade was 6 cars. There aren't
many platforms longer than 3 or 4 cars, and by 2012 the Overground
fleet will be 4 cars per unit, so 6 cars won't be an option (unless
they get the 313s back for the extra services).


Will they have given all the 313s up by 2012?

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Mr Thant April 27th 08 02:59 PM

Oh No Kenny O
 
On 27 Apr, 15:18, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
Will they have given all the 313s up by 2012?


January 2009 is the current target, although it's probably going to be
missed by a few months.

First Capital Connect are only interested in 8 of them, and the rest
don't appear in the Rolling Stock Plan, so it looks like curtains (or
Shoeburyness) for the rest.

U

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Graeme Wall April 27th 08 03:00 PM

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In message i
Tom Anderson wrote:

[snip]

reptiles "royal family" 1


Does that include crocodile wives?

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MIG April 27th 08 03:56 PM

Oh No Kenny O
 
On Apr 27, 1:06*pm, "John Rowland"
wrote:
Mizter T wrote:

Anyway, if we're utilising such spurious reasoning then one could also
ask the question "Doesn't the fact that all the Nazis are supporting
Boris Ken tell you anything?"


For the context of the above:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...ondon08.london


Oh The Guardian, that's a reliable source. I only know one person who's
voting BNP, and he's giving his second vote to Ken because he hates Boris so
much.


Ah, so that's what you meant by "all the terrorists ...". You were
referring to the nail-bombers.

If you do have more reliable sources about how the terrorists are
going to vote than the Guardian has about the BNP's advice to its
members, then I would echo a previous suggestion that you ought to go
to the police.

Tom Anderson April 27th 08 03:57 PM

Oh No Kenny O
 
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008, Graeme Wall wrote:

In message i
Tom Anderson wrote:

reptiles "royal family" 1


Does that include crocodile wives?


I fear not. Although you would need to ask David Icke to be certain!

tom

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Stuart April 27th 08 04:35 PM

The plans for Camden Town was Oh No Kenny O
 
MIG wrote:

In Camden, far from the station, the Stables market at least is under
threat,


Oh, i see. They're redeveloping it - in the sense of expanding it,
cleaning it up, adding better access, and putting a roof on it, not the
sense of turning it into a supermarket. Not what i'd call 'under threat'.
But maybe the current plan is only what it is because of the public
outcry.

Cheers for the info.



Certainly the new stories a few months back sounded pretty
devastating, but that may have been spin by the protesters competing
with spin by the developers.

I can see that the plans might effectively result in an indoor
shopping centre on the layout of the former market.

You don't have to go to Camden to visit an indoor shopping centre
(maybe I could have stopped after the first seven words of that
sentence).



It's more than under threat, when i went there a couple of weeks ago it
was a huge building site.

The arches where the furniture stall were have totally gone. the indoor
bit contianing the antiques market was closed and home to builders and
the stalls that back on to the road were all closed.

The Stable Market is gone, the Canal market 'went on fire'... if the one
next to the tube station disappears thy won't need the tube extension


Jarle H Knudsen April 27th 08 04:53 PM

The plans for Camden Town was Oh No Kenny O
 
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:35:45 +0100, Stuart wrote:

The Stable Market is gone, the Canal market 'went on fire'... if the one
next to the tube station disappears thy won't need the tube extension


I was looking forward to visiting the markets. How much is left? The Canal
market was the one across the canal bridge and one the same side of the
road as Camden Town tube station, wasn't it? How much is left on the
opposite side of the road?

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jhk

MIG April 27th 08 05:07 PM

The plans for Camden Town was Oh No Kenny O
 
On Apr 27, 5:53*pm, Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:35:45 +0100, Stuart wrote:
The Stable Market is gone, the Canal market 'went on fire'... if the one
next to the tube station disappears thy won't need the tube extension


I was looking forward to visiting the markets. How much is left? The Canal
market was the one across the canal bridge and one the same side of the
road as Camden Town tube station, wasn't it? How much is left on the
opposite side of the road?


The stuff between the lock gates and the railway viaduct is pretty
much untouched (including the cobbled square and a large indoor
market).

That's the west side of the road. The Stables is the same side but
north of the viaduct (but with passageways through, so I am not
entirely clear on the boundary of the development), and the Canal
market is on the east side where the whole block is closed (ie the
pubs and shops facing the main road that the market backed on to).

Further down the east side, nearer the station, there is a fairly
grotty market in a square, with every stall selling identical mass-
produced T shirts (oops; I mean unique individual hand-made things
that you can't get anywhere else). Over the road there's a side road
with a few stalls selling limp vegetables.


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