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Any sign of these being used yet?

I saw a report elsewhere that a couple of dozen were supposed to have been
brought into use yesterday...

Paul

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Paul Scott wrote:
Any sign of these being used yet?

I saw a report elsewhere that a couple of dozen were supposed to have been
brought into use yesterday...

In use yesterday evening. With extra wide gates for bikes at both ends
- one end for in and the other for out. It also returned my 'out'
single ticket instead of eating it.

These barriers cover high-numbered platforms.

Colin McKenzie


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On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:32:25 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

Any sign of these being used yet?

I saw a report elsewhere that a couple of dozen were supposed to have been
brought into use yesterday...

Paul

Yes, Wednesday AM and Saturday AM to my certain knowledge.

I'm sort of pleased to report that one of the individuals with whom I
met up on the Wednesday, and who has been (allegedly) Extracting the
Urine for some years was stopped and got fined.

Doesn't help the congestion tho'.

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On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:20:57 GMT, wrote:

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:32:25 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

Any sign of these being used yet?

I saw a report elsewhere that a couple of dozen were supposed to have been
brought into use yesterday...

Paul

Yes, Wednesday AM and Saturday AM to my certain knowledge.

When I passed through there one morning last week the barriers were in
use but the Oyster targets weren't (and the range on the handheld
reader the man by the wide gate had was pathetic - I had to take the
card out of its wallet!)

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On 29 Apr, 19:41, James Farrar wrote:

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:20:57 GMT, wrote:

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:32:25 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

Any sign of these being used yet?

I saw a report elsewhere that a couple of dozen were supposed to have been
brought into use yesterday...

Yes, Wednesday AM and Saturday AM to my certain knowledge.

When I passed through there one morning last week the barriers were in
use but the Oyster targets weren't (and the range on the handheld
reader the man by the wide gate had was pathetic - I had to take the
card out of its wallet!)

The Oyster readers on the gates weren't working - that is properly
absurd!

I've never had any problems with ticket inspectors scanning my Oyster
card with their handheld readers before, perhaps he just wasn't used
to doing it. Out of interest was it a small blue device, about the
size of a calculator, or was it something larger?

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On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:


On 29 Apr, 19:41, James Farrar wrote:

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:20:57 GMT, wrote:

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:32:25 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

Any sign of these being used yet?

I saw a report elsewhere that a couple of dozen were supposed to have been
brought into use yesterday...

Yes, Wednesday AM and Saturday AM to my certain knowledge.

When I passed through there one morning last week the barriers were in
use but the Oyster targets weren't (and the range on the handheld
reader the man by the wide gate had was pathetic - I had to take the
card out of its wallet!)

The Oyster readers on the gates weren't working - that is properly
absurd!

I've never had any problems with ticket inspectors scanning my Oyster
card with their handheld readers before, perhaps he just wasn't used
to doing it. Out of interest was it a small blue device, about the
size of a calculator, or was it something larger?

It was the small blue one. He got a red light with the card in my
wallet (this happens occasionally) and with it just in its wallet
(this has never happened before)! It was only when he put the reader
directly on the card itself that he got a green light.

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On 29 Apr, 11:32, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Any sign of these being used yet?

I saw a report elsewhere that a couple of dozen were supposed to have been
brought into use yesterday...

The barriers on the high numbered platforms have been in use for
around a fortnight.

It was never intended that the Oyster reader yellow roundels would
work immediately. They will follow once all the gates are in
operation. The gates on the overbridge are some weeks away still.

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At 08:24:19 on Wed, 30 Apr 2008 Chris opined:-

On 29 Apr, 11:32, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Any sign of these being used yet?

I saw a report elsewhere that a couple of dozen were supposed to have been
brought into use yesterday...

The barriers on the high numbered platforms have been in use for
around a fortnight.

It was never intended that the Oyster reader yellow roundels would
work immediately. They will follow once all the gates are in
operation. The gates on the overbridge are some weeks away still.

Are there any plans to install gates at the top of platforms 15/16, to
separate tube from national rail platforms?
--
Thoss

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On 30 Apr, 16:56, thoss wrote:
Are there any plans to install gates at the top of platforms 15/16, to
separate tube from national rail platforms?

No, all the high numbered platforms will be part of one area:
http://londonconnections.blogspot.co...ket-gates.html

U

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:24:19 -0700 (PDT), Chris
wrote:

On 29 Apr, 11:32, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Any sign of these being used yet?

I saw a report elsewhere that a couple of dozen were supposed to have been
brought into use yesterday...

The barriers on the high numbered platforms have been in use for
around a fortnight.

It was never intended that the Oyster reader yellow roundels would
work immediately. They will follow once all the gates are in
operation.

They were working at 0640 this morning.

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On 30 Apr, 18:15, James Farrar wrote:
They were working at 0640 this morning.

Possibly an indication that the barriers on the overbridge have been
delayed?

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On 1 May, 09:50, Chris wrote:
On 30 Apr, 18:15, James Farrar wrote:

They were working at 0640 this morning.

Possibly an indication that the barriers on the overbridge have been
delayed?

The barriers on the overbridge leading to platforms 10-16 are
installed but not active yet. The old barriers covering platforms
13-16 are still in use.

Oyster PAYG is now live from Paddington according to an FGW poster,
but only for journeys to Ealing Broadway and Greenford.
The barriers covering platforms 2-5 have not had Oyster readers
installed yet.

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"Matthew Dickinson" wrote in message
...
On 1 May, 09:50, Chris wrote:
On 30 Apr, 18:15, James Farrar wrote:

They were working at 0640 this morning.

Possibly an indication that the barriers on the overbridge have been
delayed?

The barriers on the overbridge leading to platforms 10-16 are
installed but not active yet. The old barriers covering platforms
13-16 are still in use.

Oyster PAYG is now live from Paddington according to an FGW poster,
but only for journeys to Ealing Broadway and Greenford.
The barriers covering platforms 2-5 have not had Oyster readers
installed yet.

Raises an interesting point, and I'm sure it is relevant to all the main
line TOCs. If the station is effectively divided into areas for different
service types (like Paddington is) does it make sense for pax to be able to
board a train to Bristol or Exeter using a PAYG Oyster card to get through
the gates, or should (or can) they disable those Oyster validators unless a
local train is in the platform?

Paul S

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On 2 May, 13:30, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Raises an interesting point, and I'm sure it is relevant to all the main
line TOCs. If the station is effectively divided into areas for different
service types (like Paddington is) does it make sense for pax to be able to
board a train to Bristol or Exeter using a PAYG Oyster card to get through
the gates, or should (or can) they disable those Oyster validators unless a
local train is in the platform?

OTOH, FGW checks tickets pretty stringently on intercity trains -
surely the barriers are largely for the benefit of stopping/local
trains where pax might otherwise be able to travel without
encountering a guard/RPI?

Someone using PAYG to get on an IC train without a ticket is going to
face the GBP5 National Rail Oyster minimum fare plus whatever punitive
ticket the guard sells them on board...

--
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john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

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"John B" wrote in message
...
On 2 May, 13:30, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Raises an interesting point, and I'm sure it is relevant to all the main
line TOCs. If the station is effectively divided into areas for different
service types (like Paddington is) does it make sense for pax to be able
to
board a train to Bristol or Exeter using a PAYG Oyster card to get
through
the gates, or should (or can) they disable those Oyster validators unless
a
local train is in the platform?

OTOH, FGW checks tickets pretty stringently on intercity trains -
surely the barriers are largely for the benefit of stopping/local
trains where pax might otherwise be able to travel without
encountering a guard/RPI?

Someone using PAYG to get on an IC train without a ticket is going to
face the GBP5 National Rail Oyster minimum fare plus whatever punitive
ticket the guard sells them on board...


Agree entirely - I was just thinking in the Paddington example, where the
station is divided into recognisable chunks, the lack of Oyster on P2-5
wouldn't be a problem on a day to day basis?

Paul

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"Matthew Dickinson" wrote in message
...
On 1 May, 09:50, Chris wrote:
On 30 Apr, 18:15, James Farrar wrote:

They were working at 0640 this morning.

Possibly an indication that the barriers on the overbridge have been
delayed?

The barriers on the overbridge leading to platforms 10-16 are
installed but not active yet. The old barriers covering platforms
13-16 are still in use.

Oyster PAYG is now live from Paddington according to an FGW poster,
but only for journeys to Ealing Broadway and Greenford.
The barriers covering platforms 2-5 have not had Oyster readers
installed yet.

The NR/PAYG map has just been updated too:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...ional-rail.pdf

Paul S

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On 2 May, 13:30, "Paul Scott" wrote:
"Matthew Dickinson" wrote in message

...



On 1 May, 09:50, Chris wrote:
On 30 Apr, 18:15, James Farrar wrote:

They were working at 0640 this morning.

Possibly an indication that the barriers on the overbridge have been
delayed?

The barriers on the overbridge leading to platforms 10-16 are
installed but not active yet. The old barriers covering platforms
13-16 are still in use.

Oyster PAYG is now live from Paddington according to an FGW poster,
but only for journeys to Ealing Broadway and Greenford.
The barriers covering platforms 2-5 have not had Oyster readers
installed yet.

Raises an interesting point, and I'm sure it is relevant to all the main
line TOCs. If the station is effectively divided into areas for different
service types (like Paddington is) does it make sense for pax to be able to
board a train to Bristol or Exeter using a PAYG Oyster card to get through
the gates, or should (or can) they disable those Oyster validators unless a
local train is in the platform?

Paul S

This has happened for quite some time on the existing barriers to (for
example) platforms 2 and 3 at Paddington. They can turn the Oyster
facility off, so all oyster readers show red instead of orange lights.

This is okay, except certain passengers might be legitimately
travelling on an oyster card. I do an occasional journey from London
to Bath, and it is much cheaper to use my annual travelcard, then
"boundary zone 6" to Didcot (Network/Gold discounted) and Didcot to
Bath CDRs. Neither paper ticket will work at Paddington barrier
(obviously) and neither will my Oystercard (i _think_ a paper
travelcard would still work).