On May 7, 4:38*pm, Railist wrote:
On May 8, 12:14*am, 1506 wrote:

On May 7, 3:58*pm, John B wrote: On May 7, 11:54 pm, Tom Barry wrote:

However, the wider point that someone commuting from, say, Uxbridge
can't have a drink on the way home while someone from Oxford can be
*sold* one holds true, and has interesting class implications.

I'm not sure the class point holds - someone commuting to Stratford
can buy a drink, whereas someone commuting to Chalfont and Latimer
can't even drink one...

Do the carts on Thameslink sell Alcohol? *IIRC they do.

I don't think it does have 'class' implications. I think there is a
problem with anti-social behaviour on the Underground, but my issue is
how will this be enforced?

With some difficulty one would have thought. At one time, one of the
Circle Line stations had a bar on the platform. IIRC it was Saint
James Park.

Baker Street certainly had/has a bar outside the barrier line. So, at
the very least the public is being sent mixed messages. And, let us
not forget the Met. Railway's Pullman cars where Alcohol was served on
board.

Moreover , it seems possible that having bought a drink at Marylebone
one could travel to Amersham whilst enjoying a drink on a Chiltern
train. If one bought a drink at Baker Street one would not be allowed
to consume it whilst travelling, over the very same metals, on a
Metropolitan line train.

As an asside many US transit systmes ban eating and drinking, of any
sort, on board buses and trains. LA Metro comes to mind.

On May 7, 5:33*pm, wrote:
On 8 May, 00:14, 1506 wrote:

On May 7, 3:58*pm, John B wrote: On May 7, 11:54 pm, Tom Barry wrote:

However, the wider point that someone commuting from, say, Uxbridge
can't have a drink on the way home while someone from Oxford can be
*sold* one holds true, and has interesting class implications.

I'm not sure the class point holds - someone commuting to Stratford
can buy a drink, whereas someone commuting to Chalfont and Latimer
can't even drink one...

Do the carts on Thameslink sell Alcohol? *IIRC they do.

No, because they no longer exist.

Understandable given the conditions on Thameslink in the central
area. Althought, it was certainly good to have the option of buying a
snack.

They were also removed from The fast Cambridge / Kings Lynn services
on the GN route when FCC took over.

Whoever operates the trollies on "Southern" services did have alcahol
available a few months back on the Brighton line. I wouldn't normally
take a lot of notice, however a business type indulged in a couple of
shorts en route to Brighton on the 09.06 from Victoria and recieved
some unaproving glances.

IIRC this has always been legal on rains in the UK. One wonders about
the guy's liver. :-)

1506 gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Baker Street certainly had/has a bar outside the barrier line.

There's a 'spoons above Baker St station, but access is only from outside.

Moreover , it seems possible that having bought a drink at Marylebone

....except they've closed the little corner shop in the concourse, in
order to refurb it into another chain sandwich place...

one could travel to Amersham whilst enjoying a drink on a Chiltern
train. If one bought a drink at Baker Street one would not be allowed
to consume it whilst travelling, over the very same metals, on a
Metropolitan line train.

Indeed.

"1506" wrote

IIRC this has always been legal on rains in the UK. One wonders about
the guy's liver. :-)

Railway byelaw 4(2) could be used to ban the carrying or consumption of
alcohol on trains, and is sometimes used in connection with football
matches, as governed by the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol) Act 1985.

Peter

On May 8, 10:11*am, Adrian wrote:
1506 gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Baker Street certainly had/has a bar outside the barrier line.

There's a 'spoons above Baker St station, but access is only from outside.

Times have changed. There was once a bar inside the station entrance,
but before the barriers. I have to say it was a lousy bar with
mediocre service.

Moreover , it seems possible that having bought a drink at Marylebone

...except they've closed the little corner shop in the concourse, in
order to refurb it into another chain sandwich place...

Nothing is sacred. Has the Victoria and Albert close?

one could travel to Amersham whilst enjoying a drink on a Chiltern
train. *If one bought a drink at Baker Street one would not be allowed
to consume it whilst travelling, over the very same metals, on a
Metropolitan line train.

Indeed.

So the County, sorry region, of London had a leader with a clue.
Albeit an anti-semitic pro-terrorist lefty. Now it has a clueless
pompous ass for a leader. Wow, Hobson's choice already.

1506 gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Moreover , it seems possible that having bought a drink at Marylebone

...except they've closed the little corner shop in the concourse, in
order to refurb it into another chain sandwich place...

Nothing is sacred. Has the Victoria and Albert close?

No, still there, I think.

On May 8, 10:44*am, Adrian wrote:
1506 gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Moreover , it seems possible that having bought a drink at Marylebone
...except they've closed the little corner shop in the concourse, in
order to refurb it into another chain sandwich place...
Nothing is sacred. *Has the Victoria and Albert close?

No, still there, I think.

We can be grateful for that. Can it not function as an Off-License?

In message , Adrian
writes
Baker Street certainly had/has a bar outside the barrier line.

There's a 'spoons above Baker St station, but access is only from
outside.

Which is actually the old LUL recruitment office - Oh the irony!
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On Thu, 08 May 2008 10:03:59 -0700, 1506 wrote:

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As an asside many US transit systmes ban eating and drinking, of any
sort, on board buses and trains. LA Metro comes to mind.

So do many British ones, *except* (in general) for trains. The Midland
Metro bans it, for example, though it's not rigidly enforced and (I hope)
nobody is going to be pulled up for a bottle of water on a hot summer's
day on a crowded tram. Actually, if they were I wonder whether they'd
have a human-rights case...

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On Thu, 8 May 2008 10:03:59 -0700 (PDT), 1506
wrote:

As an asside many US transit systmes ban eating and drinking, of any
sort, on board buses and trains. LA Metro comes to mind.

A good number of the American systems do, as, closer to home, does
Metrolink. I do hope TfL don't go that far.

Neil

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