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Boltar wrote:
On May 22, 7:38 am, Martin Edwards wrote:
Richard J. wrote:
1506 wrote:
Allow me to appraise you of some facts.
...
The almost complete inability to move about within London.
Rubbish. Over 1 billion passenger journeys are made on London Underground
every year, and nearly twice that number on the buses.
I suspect he means that you have to mix with oiks, and people of
excessive skin pigmentation.

Is it an obsession with some people that they must accuse or imply
racism in someone no matter what the comment? Is there some quota that
has to be fullfilled by all paid up members of the right-on losers
club?

B2003

F!"£$% if I know: I'll check with the membership secretary. No, wait,
he's in hospital.

--
Corporate society looks after everything. All it asks of anyone, all it
has ever asked of anyone, is that they do not interfere with management
decisions. -From “Rollerball”

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John B wrote:
On May 22, 11:13 am, Boltar wrote:
Though most ex-gymnasium scholars speak English, they are in a minority.
Most germans high up in the finance sector will speak english as a
necessity.

Yes, but if you're a Yank expat living in Germany for two years you
might occasionally want to chat to people who aren't bankers. Even if
it's just your cleaner and the people in the local shop...

But will they not speak Polish, like their equivalents in London?

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

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On May 22, 3:45*am, wrote:
On 21 May, 19:11, 1506 wrote:





On May 21, 10:19*am, The Real Doctor
wrote:

On 21 May, 17:05, 1506 wrote:

On May 21, 7:55 am, The Real Doctor wrote:
Nope. People with a financial interest in having it built have
proposed a very modest benefits to cost ration. Even then, we'd do
rather better, as I recall, sticking the money in a building society
account.
One wonders if you will still think this is true when Europe's
fianancial center has moved to Frankfurt?

Ridiculous scaremongering. If Europe's financial centre moves to
Frankfurt, it won't be because the commute in from Maidenhead hasn't
been reduced by ten minutes.

Ian

Allow me to appraise you of some facts.

Many US companies favor London as a European base of operations.

For several years now US companies have been under the thumb of a
nasty piece of Legislation called Sarbanes Oxley. *One partial
solution to this is to de-list on the US stock exchanges and list on
an oversea exchange. *London has until now been the exchange of
choice.

Another method of reducing the impact of state and federal legislation
is the creation of upstream, offshore holding companies. *Again
England & Wales is the obvious choice. *Although Dubai seems to be
competing well for offshore incorporation and banking.

Against these advantages US CEOs and CFOs have to consider the
following:

London's expensive second rate hotels.

Dumb UK airport rules. *One can deplane with two pieces of hand
luggage, but enplane with only one.

If poor airports are capable of wrecking an economy then the US is
screwed. In my experience any foreigner is made to feel entirely
unwelcome and treated with intense suspicion as you enter the country,
thanks to those nice chaps at the Department of Homeland Security. *I
don't think it's dawned on the US government how much that's going to
put people off studying or working in the states, which over the
medium term is going to do some pretty nasty things to its economy

You are confusing airports and their employees, with US federal
government functionaries. At some airports, some USCIS enforcers can
be brusque. These people are outwith the control of the airport.

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On May 22, 3:40*am, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008, 1506 wrote:
On May 21, 3:04*pm, "Richard J." wrote:
1506 wrote:

Allow me to appraise you of some facts.
...
The almost complete inability to move about within London.

Rubbish. *Over 1 billion passenger journeys are made on London Underground
every year, and nearly twice that number on the buses.

At speeds, and comfort levels, that would be entirely unacceptable in
Atlanta, Berlin, New York, or Paris.

I've been to New York. The subway there is no better when it's crowded.

Point taken.

You need to get out more.

You need to shut up more.

Manners.

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On May 22, 7:33 pm, 1506 wrote:
If poor airports are capable of wrecking an economy then the US is
screwed. In my experience any foreigner is made to feel entirely
unwelcome and treated with intense suspicion as you enter the country,
thanks to those nice chaps at the Department of Homeland Security. I
don't think it's dawned on the US government how much that's going to
put people off studying or working in the states, which over the
medium term is going to do some pretty nasty things to its economy

You are confusing airports and their employees, with US federal
government functionaries. At some airports, some USCIS enforcers can
be brusque. These people are outwith the control of the airport.

If every Underground train contained a violent drunk who stole your
wallet, then even if said violent drunk wasn't employed by London
Underground and London Underground had no control over the violent
drunks, it would be fair to say that they made journeys on London
Underground substantially less pleasant than journeys on the New York
Subway or Paris Metro.

The same applies for security screeners and immigration personnel at
US airports.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

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On May 22, 12:08*pm, John B wrote:
On May 22, 7:33 pm, 1506 wrote:

If poor airports are capable of wrecking an economy then the US is
screwed. In my experience any foreigner is made to feel entirely
unwelcome and treated with intense suspicion as you enter the country,
thanks to those nice chaps at the Department of Homeland Security. *I
don't think it's dawned on the US government how much that's going to
put people off studying or working in the states, which over the
medium term is going to do some pretty nasty things to its economy

You are confusing airports and their employees, with US federal
government functionaries. *At some airports, some USCIS enforcers can
be brusque. *These people are outwith the control of the airport.

If every Underground train contained a violent drunk who stole your
wallet, then even if said violent drunk wasn't employed by London
Underground and London Underground had no control over the violent
drunks, it would be fair to say that they made journeys on London
Underground substantially less pleasant than journeys on the New York
Subway or Paris Metro.

The same applies for security screeners and immigration personnel at
US airports.

You argued this very clearly. I cannot disagree with your point.

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On Thu, 22 May 2008, 1506 wrote:

On May 22, 3:40*am, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008, 1506 wrote:
On May 21, 3:04*pm, "Richard J." wrote:
1506 wrote:

Allow me to appraise you of some facts.

The almost complete inability to move about within London.

Rubbish. *Over 1 billion passenger journeys are made on London Underground
every year, and nearly twice that number on the buses.

At speeds, and comfort levels, that would be entirely unacceptable in
Atlanta, Berlin, New York, or Paris.

I've been to New York. The subway there is no better when it's crowded.

Point taken.

You need to get out more.

You need to shut up more.

Manners.

Yes, sorry.

tom

--
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On Thu, 22 May 2008 18:10:22 +0100, Arthur Figgis wrote in
, seen in uk.railway:
John B wrote:
On May 22, 11:13 am, Boltar wrote:

Though most ex-gymnasium scholars speak English, they are in a minority.
Most germans high up in the finance sector will speak english as a
necessity.

Yes, but if you're a Yank expat living in Germany for two years you
might occasionally want to chat to people who aren't bankers. Even if
it's just your cleaner and the people in the local shop...

But will they not speak Polish, like their equivalents in London?

Frankfurt? Probably Ukrainian or Russian (depending whether they're
Wessie-Ukrainian or Ossie-Ukrainian) rather than Polish, IMLX.

--
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On May 23, 1:27 am, Ross wrote:
Frankfurt? Probably Ukrainian or Russian (depending whether they're
Wessie-Ukrainian or Ossie-Ukrainian) rather than Polish, IMLX.

A lot of east ukrainians - especially from cities like Donetsk -
prefer to be called Russian :)

B2003