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![]() "Graeme Wall" wrote in message ... In message wrote: "Graham Murray" wrote in message ... Roland Perry writes: In message , at 06:13:27 on Sun, 22 Jun 2008, Charles Ellson remarked: Aren't US banknotes also all the same size Yes, they are. Does the USA not have disability discrimination legislation? Having all banknotes the same size is surely discrimination against blind people. I thought that the US Federal Reserve had added colour to their notes in recent years, which should help. One would think that they would also put some form of braille on notes to help delineate. A least one European states that I can think of had been doing that well before the euro was introduced. Holland. That's right. But didn't Finland and Germany have something as well? Don't euro notes have a form of braille? I can't remember off hand. Strangely enough, no. That is strange. |
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:08:27 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote: In France, most cards are debit cards, and it's true that credit cards are used less than in the UK. Technically speaking, you are right, of course, but most people refer to their Visa card as a "carte de crédit", even though it isn't. The question to Rian (who anyway is in Belgium) I don't think there was ever any doubt about that. should be "Wouldn't it have been easier to pay with a debit card?" (rather than withdrawing unusual amounts of cash from his bank). Agreed. |
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In message , at 17:52:02 on Sun, 22
Jun 2008, remarked: I thought that the US Federal Reserve had added colour to their notes in recent years, which should help. I've seen some very pale pink $20 notes. You'd hardly notice it without the contrast with older cream-coloured ones. Are other denominations getting different tints? -- Roland Perry |
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wrote: [snip] A least one European states that I can think of had been doing that well before the euro was introduced. Holland. That's right. But didn't Finland and Germany have something as well? Not that I'm aware of. Don't euro notes have a form of braille? I can't remember off hand. Strangely enough, no. That is strange. Very, it surprised me. I suppose TPTB are relying on blind people being able to identify the notes by the size. -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html |
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Graeme Wall writes:
In message wrote: That's right. But didn't Finland and Germany have something as well? Not that I'm aware of. Finnish banknotes (all the same size) didn't have actual braille but rather an easily distinguishable pattern of large rings in raised print specific for each denomination (from one ring in the FIM 10 to five in the FIM 1000). For instance Estonian banknotes (also all the same size, and practically the same size as the old Finnish ones) have similar features indicated with dots and dashes. |
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:34:11 +0100, Graeme Wall
wrote: In message wrote: [snip] A least one European states that I can think of had been doing that well before the euro was introduced. Holland. That's right. But didn't Finland and Germany have something as well? Not that I'm aware of. Don't euro notes have a form of braille? I can't remember off hand. Strangely enough, no. That is strange. Very, it surprised me. I suppose TPTB are relying on blind people being able to identify the notes by the size. Size, colour and large numbers seem to be the only official aids for those with poor eyesight :- http://www.euro.gov.uk/eurobanknotes.asp |
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"Graham Murray" wrote in message ... Roland Perry writes: In message , at 06:13:27 on Sun, 22 Jun 2008, Charles Ellson remarked: Aren't US banknotes also all the same size Yes, they are. Does the USA not have disability discrimination legislation? Having all banknotes the same size is surely discrimination against blind people. I thought that the US Federal Reserve had added colour to their notes in recent years, which should help. The color (added in 2004) really doesn't help much in practice, since most of the bills still in circulation don't have it and thus the colors haven't been absorbed into the public consciousness. Heck, I still today frequently get "small portrait" bills (last printed in 1993-1995) in addition to "large portrait" non-color ones (last printed in 2001-2003). And that's in the US, in the same city as a Federal Reserve Bank; over two thirds of US currency circulates _outside_ the US, where banks aren't actively replacing old bills with new ones. You can see images of all modern US currency in its various forms at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Note So far, no color $100s have been printed, but that's planned. The $1 bill didn't get a "large portrait" version in the 1990s because they were supposed to be removed from circulation and replaced with $1 coins, but special interest groups (mainly vending machine makers/owners) got that postponed indefinitely. The $2 bill wasn't redesigned simply due to apathy; there aren't enough of them to matter (less than 1% of all US bills), and most are kept as collectibles, not circulating currency, though that might change if/when plans for withdrawing the $1 bill are finally put into action. One would think that they would also put some form of braille on notes to help delineate. That's tough with our bills since they're cloth (high grade denim, technically) and not that nearly indestructible plastic/paper stuff used for most other countries' notes. Braille and cloth don't mix well; even if you could print the bills with the feature, it'd be ruined after a few weeks/months in circulation. S |
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Charles Ellson wrote:
Aren't US banknotes also all the same size thus making it easier to accidentally sandwich a high value note in amongst low value notes ? They're all the same size, yes. Folks do occasionally make mistakes, but that's not a major concern (other than for the blind) in bill design compared to anti-counterfeiting features. One of the old tricks was to take a $1 bill, bleach the ink off, and print a $100 bill's faces on it. This got around the checks specific to the material used, since all bills until recently had identical cloth. Newer bills have security features that prevent that -- if cashiers bother looking for them. S |
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:58:52 -0500, Stephen Sprunk
wrote in misc.transport.urban-transit: Charles Ellson wrote: Aren't US banknotes also all the same size thus making it easier to accidentally sandwich a high value note in amongst low value notes ? They're all the same size, yes. Folks do occasionally make mistakes, but that's not a major concern (other than for the blind) in bill design compared to anti-counterfeiting features. But, of course, the Fed was told by the courts that their current methods are a violation of the law because they don't take the blind into account. One of the old tricks was to take a $1 bill, bleach the ink off, and print a $100 bill's faces on it. This got around the checks specific to the material used, since all bills until recently had identical cloth. Newer bills have security features that prevent that -- if cashiers bother looking for them. S |
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