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Im an american which would be better to buy ie less expensive the
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On Jul 2, 3:38*am, "
wrote: Im an american which would be better to buy ie less *expensive the travelcard or oyster? It depends on what you plan to do, but over a seven-day period, it's almost certain that what you should do is get the seven-day travelcard ON Oyster. The Oyster card can store the travelcard, and if you get a seven-day when you get the card, you don't pay the £3 deposit. A seven-day travelcard is generally slightly cheaper than five times the off-peak Oyster Pay as You Go limit, plus you can use it in the peak, plus you can use it on National Rail. They only way you might lose out would be if you don't need that many zones every day or if you don't use it enough every day to reach the daily limit. If you are staying in zone six and travelling around central London every day, then the seven-day travelcard stored on Oyster is ideal. |
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On Jul 2, 1:58 am, MIG wrote:
On Jul 2, 3:38 am, " wrote: Im an american which would be better to buy ie less expensive the travelcard or oyster? It depends on what you plan to do, but over a seven-day period, it's almost certain that what you should do is get the seven-day travelcard ON Oyster. The Oyster card can store the travelcard, and if you get a seven-day when you get the card, you don't pay the £3 deposit. A seven-day travelcard is generally slightly cheaper than five times the off-peak Oyster Pay as You Go limit, plus you can use it in the peak, plus you can use it on National Rail. They only way you might lose out would be if you don't need that many zones every day or if you don't use it enough every day to reach the daily limit. If you are staying in zone six and travelling around central London every day, then the seven-day travelcard stored on Oyster is ideal. What would the oyster cost vs the travelcard? |
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On Jul 2, 2:44*pm, "
wrote: On Jul 2, 1:58 am, MIG wrote: On Jul 2, 3:38 am, " wrote: Im an american which would be better to buy ie less *expensive the travelcard or oyster? It depends on what you plan to do, but over a seven-day period, it's almost certain that what you should do is get the seven-day travelcard ON Oyster. The Oyster card can store the travelcard, and if you get a seven-day when you get the card, you don't pay the £3 deposit. A seven-day travelcard is generally slightly cheaper than five times the off-peak Oyster Pay as You Go limit, plus you can use it in the peak, plus you can use it on National Rail. They only way you might lose out would be if you don't need that many zones every day or if you don't use it enough every day to reach the daily limit. If you are staying in zone six and travelling around central London every day, then the seven-day travelcard stored on Oyster is ideal. What would the oyster cost vs the travelcard? There is no simple answer to that, but here is a link to the fares guide. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...s-08-01-02.pdf The thing to bear in mind is that the Oyster card itself is just a means of storing credit, and it can be used to store, for example, a weekly travelcard. A weekly travelcard stored on Oyster is exactly the same price as a weekly travelcard on paper. An Oyster card can also store Pay As You Go credit. Depending on what zones you cover at what times of day and what modes of transport you use, the total amount of Pay As You Go is "capped" in any single day to just under the cost of a one-day travelcard (or bus pass) covering the same amount of travel. However, unlike a travelcard or bus pass, if you don't reach the cap on a particular day, the credit remains for use on subsequent days. A weekly travelcard offers a much greater discount than a one-day, so a person travelling to work and back five days a week on Underground and buses would be better off with a weekly travelcard, and still have free travel at the weekend. And to really mess up the whole plan, National Rail services, for which travelcards are valid (including those stored on Oyster), mostly don't accept Pay As You Go yet, so their gates read Oyster cards, but only to check if there is a valid travelcard on them. You begin to get the idea of how complicated it is ... |
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, at 10:23:52 on Wed, 2 Jul 2008, MIG remarked: Depending on what zones you cover at what times of day and what modes of transport you use, the total amount of Pay As You Go is "capped" in any single day to just under the cost of a one-day travelcard (or bus pass) covering the same amount of travel. And can I stress that the answer to the logical question of "in that case why use a travelcard at all", is that they are valid on a range of National Rail services that Oyster PAYG isn't. But it is valid on some - so knowing what your travel pattern is will help that decision. http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_...OysterPAYG.pdf -- Roland Perry |
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Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the
oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or transferred to the jubilee via greenpark? |
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On 3 Jul, 17:07, "
wrote: Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or transferred to the jubilee via greenpark? It won't. If the obvious route between two stations is via Zone 1, you get charged the via Z1 fare regardless. U -- http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ A blog about transport projects in London |
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On Jul 3, 1:16 pm, Mr Thant
wrote: On 3 Jul, 17:07, " wrote: Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or transferred to the jubilee via greenpark? It won't. If the obvious route between two stations is via Zone 1, you get charged the via Z1 fare regardless. U --http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ A blog about transport projects in London 1 more ? does the 7 days start from purchase or first use? |
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On Jul 4, 12:11*am, "
wrote: On Jul 3, 1:16 pm, Mr Thant wrote: On 3 Jul, 17:07, " wrote: Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or transferred to the jubilee via greenpark? It won't. If the obvious route between two stations is via Zone 1, you get charged the via Z1 fare regardless. U --http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/ A blog about transport projects in London 1 more ? does the 7 days start from purchase or first use? When you buy a period travelcard you can specify the start date. But that is then fixed; it isn't triggered by first use. |
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Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or transferred to the jubilee via greenpark? You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs through the night. Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus. A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p. Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations. A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money unless you plan to: 1) Regularly travel before 09.30 2) use National Rail a lot, 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days. -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
" typed Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or transferred to the jubilee via greenpark? You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs through the night. Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus. A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p. Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations. A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money unless you plan to: 1) Regularly travel before 09.30 2) use National Rail a lot, 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days. I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never ..." They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if you only use them over five days. |
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On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG wrote:
On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht wrote: " typed Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or transferred to the jubilee via greenpark? You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs through the night. Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus. A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p. Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations. A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money unless you plan to: 1) Regularly travel before 09.30 2) use National Rail a lot, 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days. I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never ..." They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if you only use them over five days. I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London . |
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On Jul 4, 7:09*pm, "
wrote: On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG wrote: On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht wrote: " typed Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or transferred to the jubilee via greenpark? You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs through the night. Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus.. A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p. Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations. A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money unless you plan to: 1) Regularly travel before 09.30 2) use National Rail a lot, 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days. I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never *..." They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if you only use them over five days. I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London .- In that case it might be best to get a seven-day zone 1 - 4 travelcard on Oyster (for your explorations from Wembley), and on the same Oyster card store enough Pay As You Go credit for your journeys between Heathrow and the boundary of zone 4. You will have to use the London Underground Piccadilly line for PAYG to be valid. If your total stay is more than seven days, it might be worth asking for the travelcard to start in the morning and use Pay As You Go all the way to Wembley on the first evening. If the whole visit is not more than seven days, this wouldn't help. |
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On Jul 4, 2:34 pm, MIG wrote:
On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, " wrote: On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG wrote: On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht wrote: " typed Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or transferred to the jubilee via greenpark? You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs through the night. Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus. A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p. Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations. A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money unless you plan to: 1) Regularly travel before 09.30 2) use National Rail a lot, 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days. I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never ..." They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if you only use them over five days. I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London .- In that case it might be best to get a seven-day zone 1 - 4 travelcard on Oyster (for your explorations from Wembley), and on the same Oyster card store enough Pay As You Go credit for your journeys between Heathrow and the boundary of zone 4. You will have to use the London Underground Piccadilly line for PAYG to be valid. If your total stay is more than seven days, it might be worth asking for the travelcard to start in the morning and use Pay As You Go all the way to Wembley on the first evening. If the whole visit is not more than seven days, this wouldn't help. We arrive on a thursday evening and leave the follwing thurs we want the zone 6 as i have been in london many times . Can you specify that you want the 7 day to start fri when i buy it thurs night? |
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On Jul 4, 7:47*pm, "
wrote: On Jul 4, 2:34 pm, MIG wrote: On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, " wrote: On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG wrote: On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht wrote: " typed Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or transferred to the jubilee via greenpark? You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs through the night. Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus. A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p. Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations. A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money unless you plan to: 1) Regularly travel before 09.30 2) use National Rail a lot, 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days. I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never *..." They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if you only use them over five days. I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London .- In that case it might be best to get a seven-day zone 1 - 4 travelcard on Oyster (for your explorations from Wembley), and on the same Oyster card store enough Pay As You Go credit for your journeys between Heathrow and the boundary of zone 4. You will have to use the London Underground Piccadilly line for PAYG to be valid. If your total stay is more than seven days, it might be worth asking for the travelcard to start in the morning and use Pay As You Go all the way to Wembley on the first evening. *If the whole visit is not more than seven days, this wouldn't help. We arrive on a thursday evening and leave the follwing thurs we want the zone 6 as i have been in london many times . Can you specify that you want the 7 day to start fri when i buy it thurs night?- Yes. It will be easiest to do it at the counter. Ask the clerk for an Oyster card loaded with a seven-day travelcard starting the next day (which will mean that you don't have to pay a £3 deposit for the card itself) and ask for enough credit to be added for your first journey to Wembley that evening (I am not sure what route it assumes, with regard to your earlier question). |
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On Jul 4, 3:06 pm, MIG wrote:
On Jul 4, 7:47 pm, " wrote: On Jul 4, 2:34 pm, MIG wrote: On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, " wrote: On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG wrote: On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht wrote: " typed Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or transferred to the jubilee via greenpark? You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs through the night. Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus. A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p. Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations. A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money unless you plan to: 1) Regularly travel before 09.30 2) use National Rail a lot, 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days. I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never ..." They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if you only use them over five days. I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London .- In that case it might be best to get a seven-day zone 1 - 4 travelcard on Oyster (for your explorations from Wembley), and on the same Oyster card store enough Pay As You Go credit for your journeys between Heathrow and the boundary of zone 4. You will have to use the London Underground Piccadilly line for PAYG to be valid. If your total stay is more than seven days, it might be worth asking for the travelcard to start in the morning and use Pay As You Go all the way to Wembley on the first evening. If the whole visit is not more than seven days, this wouldn't help. We arrive on a thursday evening and leave the follwing thurs we want the zone 6 as i have been in london many times . Can you specify that you want the 7 day to start fri when i buy it thurs night?- Yes. It will be easiest to do it at the counter. Ask the clerk for an Oyster card loaded with a seven-day travelcard starting the next day (which will mean that you don't have to pay a £3 deposit for the card itself) and ask for enough credit to be added for your first journey to Wembley that evening (I am not sure what route it assumes, with regard to your earlier question). What will be the quickest route ? |
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On Jul 4, 8:48*pm, "
wrote: On Jul 4, 3:06 pm, MIG wrote: On Jul 4, 7:47 pm, " wrote: On Jul 4, 2:34 pm, MIG wrote: On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, " wrote: On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG wrote: On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht wrote: " typed Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or transferred to the jubilee via greenpark? You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs through the night. Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus. A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p. Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations. A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money unless you plan to: 1) Regularly travel before 09.30 2) use National Rail a lot, 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days. I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never *..." They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if you only use them over five days. I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London .- In that case it might be best to get a seven-day zone 1 - 4 travelcard on Oyster (for your explorations from Wembley), and on the same Oyster card store enough Pay As You Go credit for your journeys between Heathrow and the boundary of zone 4. You will have to use the London Underground Piccadilly line for PAYG to be valid. If your total stay is more than seven days, it might be worth asking for the travelcard to start in the morning and use Pay As You Go all the way to Wembley on the first evening. *If the whole visit is not more than seven days, this wouldn't help. We arrive on a thursday evening and leave the follwing thurs we want the zone 6 as i have been in london many times . Can you specify that you want the 7 day to start fri when i buy it thurs night?- Yes. *It will be easiest to do it at the counter. *Ask the clerk for an Oyster card loaded with a seven-day travelcard starting the next day (which will mean that you don't have to pay a £3 deposit for the card itself) and ask for enough credit to be added for your first journey to Wembley that evening (I am not sure what route it assumes, with regard to your earlier question). What will be the quickest route ? I can't imagine doing anything but getting the Piccadilly Line to Green Park and then the Jubilee to Wembley Park, because it's simplest and least risky. Believe it or not, the Journey Planner suggests getting the Piccadilly to Acton Town, Change for Alperton and then bus 83 from Alperton to Wembley. I think that the Journey Planner gives the wrong level of precision with this sort of thing, because it depends on buses running exactly on time. |
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On Jul 4, 3:06 pm, MIG wrote:
On Jul 4, 7:47 pm, " wrote: On Jul 4, 2:34 pm, MIG wrote: On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, " wrote: On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG wrote: On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht wrote: " typed Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or transferred to the jubilee via greenpark? You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs through the night. Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus. A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p. Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations. A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money unless you plan to: 1) Regularly travel before 09.30 2) use National Rail a lot, 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days. I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never ..." They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if you only use them over five days. I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London .- In that case it might be best to get a seven-day zone 1 - 4 travelcard on Oyster (for your explorations from Wembley), and on the same Oyster card store enough Pay As You Go credit for your journeys between Heathrow and the boundary of zone 4. You will have to use the London Underground Piccadilly line for PAYG to be valid. If your total stay is more than seven days, it might be worth asking for the travelcard to start in the morning and use Pay As You Go all the way to Wembley on the first evening. If the whole visit is not more than seven days, this wouldn't help. We arrive on a thursday evening and leave the follwing thurs we want the zone 6 as i have been in london many times . Can you specify that you want the 7 day to start fri when i buy it thurs night?- Yes. It will be easiest to do it at the counter. Ask the clerk for an Oyster card loaded with a seven-day travelcard starting the next day (which will mean that you don't have to pay a £3 deposit for the card itself) and ask for enough credit to be added for your first journey to Wembley that evening (I am not sure what route it assumes, with regard to your earlier question). what would 2 bus rides cost on oyster? |
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On Jul 4, 9:39*pm, "
wrote: On Jul 4, 3:06 pm, MIG wrote: On Jul 4, 7:47 pm, " wrote: On Jul 4, 2:34 pm, MIG wrote: On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, " wrote: On Jul 4, 9:45 am, MIG wrote: On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht wrote: " typed Another thing if i go from Heathrow central to wembley would the oyster card know the difference if i want via rayners lane or transferred to the jubilee via greenpark? You could take a 140 bus from Heathrow to Harrow on the Hill and another bus (223?) from Harrow to Wembley or take the Metropolitan Line, thus avoiding central London. Unlike the Underground, the 140 bus also runs through the night. Alternatively, you could take the Picadilly Line from Heathrow to Sudbury town, which is quite close to Wembley, and then get a 204 bus. A single bus journey on Oyster is only 90p. Where in Wembley are you going? There are several Wembley stations. A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money unless you plan to: 1) Regularly travel before 09.30 2) use National Rail a lot, 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days. I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never *..." They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if you only use them over five days. I'm taking a flight from JFK to LHR with my girlfriend I want to go to the hotel near Wembley Arena the flight arrives at 20 25 then the next day we want to start using the 7 day card to explore London .- In that case it might be best to get a seven-day zone 1 - 4 travelcard on Oyster (for your explorations from Wembley), and on the same Oyster card store enough Pay As You Go credit for your journeys between Heathrow and the boundary of zone 4. You will have to use the London Underground Piccadilly line for PAYG to be valid. If your total stay is more than seven days, it might be worth asking for the travelcard to start in the morning and use Pay As You Go all the way to Wembley on the first evening. *If the whole visit is not more than seven days, this wouldn't help. We arrive on a thursday evening and leave the follwing thurs we want the zone 6 as i have been in london many times . Can you specify that you want the 7 day to start fri when i buy it thurs night?- Yes. *It will be easiest to do it at the counter. *Ask the clerk for an Oyster card loaded with a seven-day travelcard starting the next day (which will mean that you don't have to pay a £3 deposit for the card itself) and ask for enough credit to be added for your first journey to Wembley that evening (I am not sure what route it assumes, with regard to your earlier question). what would 2 bus rides cost on oyster?- Always 90p per bus, therefore £1.80. An Underground journey is one price regardless of whether you change, but the price is less after 1900 hours and depends on the zones covered. |
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On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:06:15 -0700 (PDT), MIG
wrote: On Jul 4, 7:47*pm, " wrote: We arrive on a thursday evening and leave the follwing thurs we want the zone 6 as i have been in london many times . Can you specify that you want the 7 day to start fri when i buy it thurs night?- Yes. It will be easiest to do it at the counter. Ask the clerk for an Oyster card loaded with a seven-day travelcard starting the next day (which will mean that you don't have to pay a £3 deposit for the card itself) and ask for enough credit to be added for your first journey to Wembley that evening (I am not sure what route it assumes, with regard to your earlier question). By the looks of the fares generated by the Fares Finder Heathrow T123 to Wembley Park is priced not via Zone 1 - £1.80 peak, £1.00 off peak on PAYG. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/tickets/fa...08/farefinder/ It doesn't matter what actual route you take the fare will be the same regardless as the final charge is only worked out on exit from the system. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:00:28 -0700 (PDT), MIG
wrote: On Jul 4, 8:48*pm, " wrote: What will be the quickest route ? The real question is how encumbered you will be. If you will be laden with luggage or not able to use stairs very well then it's not about speed - it's about the convenience of interchange. Acton Town station is being refurbished at present and it only has stairs and a bridge between platforms from Heathrow and towards Alperton - not easy if laden with luggage. Also make sure that trains will stop there - I'm sure I read that on certain dates there is limited access at Acton Town. I can't imagine doing anything but getting the Piccadilly Line to Green Park and then the Jubilee to Wembley Park, because it's simplest and least risky. Yes but takes quite a long time and Green Park is one of the least convenient interchanges on the system although there are lifts between the Picc and Jubilee plus a long corridor! Believe it or not, the Journey Planner suggests getting the Piccadilly to Acton Town, Change for Alperton and then bus 83 from Alperton to Wembley. I think that the Journey Planner gives the wrong level of precision with this sort of thing, because it depends on buses running exactly on time. Well yes and no. JP can overstate bus journey times because it has an annoying habit of adding the headway to the journey time to give a theoretical maximum time. It's a shame Heathrow has such poor links in the Ealing direction by bus. An all bus alternative would be to take a 105 from Heathrow to its terminal in Greenford and wait at the same stop for a 92 on to Wembley. It's doesn't reach Wembley Park but does go through the middle of Wembley town centre. I've made extensive use of the bus network on Sundays of later and have got about pretty well but then I tend to use www.londonbusroutes.net for really detailed timetable info. Route 83 timetable here http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/lond...r=18&source=sp Route 92 here http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/lond...r=18&source=sp Route 105 here http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/lond...r=18&source=sp Both the 83 and 105 are 24 hour bus services so run right through the night, every night. The 92 is every 12 minutes in the evening so not bad at all and runs until midnight. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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MIG wrote On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht wrote: A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money unless you plan to: 1) Regularly travel before 09.30 2) use National Rail a lot, 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days. I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never ..." They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if you only use them over five days. Can we see a rough calculation ? A 1-6 7D is £44.60 so you expect to exceed £8.92 on most of those five days without 1) or 3) being true ? Off-peak 1-6 cap is £6.50 1-2 cap is £4.80 Peak 1-6 cap is £13.30 1-2 cap is £6.30 For tourists and depending on hotel location (and time you finish breakfast) a 1-2 (£24.20) 7D would often be better value. Buying a off-peak 1D is £7.00 per day but there is the complication that a Railcard discount to £4.80 is available to some. -- Mike D |
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, at 13:00:28 on Fri, 4 Jul 2008, MIG remarked: What will be the quickest route ? I can't imagine doing anything but getting the Piccadilly Line to Green Park and then the Jubilee to Wembley Park, because it's simplest and least risky. Believe it or not, the Journey Planner suggests getting the Piccadilly to Acton Town, Change for Alperton and then bus 83 from Alperton to Wembley. I think that the Journey Planner gives the wrong level of precision with this sort of thing, because it depends on buses running exactly on time. Realistically, the OP will be departing Heathrow at 22.00, and it's not really the right time to be exploring exotic routes. However the fastest route above seems to be an hour, versus an hour and a quarter via Green Park. Looking at a map, going via central London is at least twice the travelling distance! Of course, some of this will depend on exactly where "near the arena" the OP's hotel is. A bus might actually get him at least ten minutes closer than a station+walk (and it's only a 1:3 guess that Wembley Park is the closest station). -- Roland Perry |
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On Jul 5, 1:18*am, "Michael R N Dolbear" wrote:
MIG wrote On 4 Jul, 12:01, Helen Deborah Vecht wrote: A 7 Zone 1-6 day Travelcard is unlikely to be good value for money unless you plan to: 1) Regularly travel before 09.30 2) use National Rail a lot, 3) travel all the way from Zone1 to Zone 6 most days. I'd be inclined to replace this with "A seven day 1 - 6 zone travelcard is likely to be good value for money unless you never .." They really are hugely better value than any capping limit, even if you only use them over five days. Can we see a rough calculation ? A 1-6 7D is £44.60 so you expect to exceed £8.92 on most of those five days without 1) or 3) being true ? No I wouldn't, but the poster seems to know that he wants zone 6. Normally I'd expect a tourist to need a seven-day zone 1 - 2 plus enough credit to/from Heathrow. £24.20 divided by five is £4.84 so you'd be risking 4p a day against the difference in pounds of any one journey on NR or beyond the zones or before 0930, plus he is going to be using it for seven days anyway. In this case, we know that he will be staying in zone 4 and knows London well so will probably be taking advantage of various means of travel for all of the seven days. In the end, the poster has to look at the fare guide and work out what's best. Or maybe that sort of military planning would spoil the holiday and it would be better to get the travelcard and relax. Off-peak 1-6 cap is £6.50 1-2 cap is £4.80 Peak *1-6 cap is £13.30 *1-2 cap is £6.30 For tourists and depending on hotel location (and time you finish breakfast) a 1-2 (£24.20) 7D would often be better value. Buying a off-peak 1D is £7.00 per day but there is the complication that a Railcard discount to £4.80 is available to some. -- Mike D |
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On Jul 5, 8:30*am, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:00:28 on Fri, 4 Jul 2008, MIG remarked: What will be the quickest route ? I can't imagine doing anything but getting the Piccadilly Line to Green Park and then the Jubilee to Wembley Park, because it's simplest and least risky. Believe it or not, the Journey Planner suggests getting the Piccadilly to Acton Town, Change for Alperton and then bus 83 from Alperton to Wembley. I think that the Journey Planner gives the wrong level of precision with this sort of thing, because it depends on buses running exactly on time. Realistically, the OP will be departing Heathrow at 22.00, and it's not really the right time to be exploring exotic routes. However the fastest route above seems to be an hour, versus an hour and a quarter via Green Park. Looking at a map, going via central London is at least twice the travelling distance! Of course, some of this will depend on exactly where "near the arena" the OP's hotel is. A bus might actually get him at least ten minutes closer than a station+walk (and it's only a 1:3 guess that Wembley Park is the closest station). I was thinking that he will be on PAYG on the first evening, so a single LU journey will also be cheaper. |
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, at 01:41:12 on Sat, 5 Jul 2008, MIG remarked: I was thinking that he will be on PAYG on the first evening, so a single LU journey will also be cheaper. If someone at the arse end of what's probably a $500 24hour journey at midnight is worrying about whether the final hour and a half costs £1 or £1.80, then I think we are wasting our time. What I'd be looking at is which delivers me closest to the hotel. -- Roland Perry |
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In message , at 01:41:12 on Sat, 5 Jul 2008, MIG remarked: I was thinking that he will be on PAYG on the first evening, so a single LU journey will also be cheaper. If someone at the arse end of what's probably a $500 24hour journey at midnight is worrying about whether the final hour and a half costs £1 or £1.80, then I think we are wasting our time. What I'd be looking at is which delivers me closest to the hotel. If it were me I'd get a 140 to Harrow on the Hill and a cab from there... -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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On Jul 5, 1:47*am, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 01:41:12 on Sat, 5 Jul 2008, MIG remarked: I was thinking that he will be on PAYG on the first evening, so a single LU journey will also be cheaper. If someone at the arse end of what's probably a $500 24hour journey at midnight is worrying about whether the final hour and a half costs £1 or £1.80, then I think we are wasting our time. What I'd be looking at is which delivers me closest to the hotel. -- Roland Perry I decided To take the 105 92 combo it drops me half a block from the hotel Aloha all from Waikiki |
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I Booked At wembley I'm buying 2 oyster I pay 44.60 for the 7 day
1-6 oyster card and add 1.80 for 2 buses the day b4 making it 46.40 for each . I plan to take rt 105 then connect to rt 92 does anyone know where to transfer in the same stop ? |
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