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I'm meeting some people this Saturday morning around 04:30 before we go
on for a flight. We are all all the same ticket for our flight on
EasyJet so I am inclined to meet landside. Will they make us all check
in at the same time? Somehow, even if not, it seems like it would be
easier to address problems from landside.

Anyway, does anyone have any suggestions on a good place to meet? Maybe
the Cafe Bar?
--
Michael Hoffman

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"Michael Hoffman" wrote in message
...
I'm meeting some people this Saturday morning around 04:30 before we go on
for a flight. We are all all the same ticket for our flight on EasyJet so
I am inclined to meet landside. Will they make us all check in at the same
time? Somehow, even if not, it seems like it would be easier to address
problems from landside.

Anyway, does anyone have any suggestions on a good place to meet? Maybe
the Cafe Bar?

If easyJet run true to form it will go like this:

(1) check in doesn't open until two hours before scheduled time
(2) it takes longer than two hours to check everybody in (after which you've
got the security queue of course)
(3) therefore you will meet in the check in queue whether you like it or
not.

(The days of "hand luggage only, check in at gate" have gone - think
toothpaste and nail scissors - thanks to America's War on Tourism.)

--
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Brett Ward Limited - www.brettward.co.uk
Cambridge Accommodation Notice Board - www.brettward.co.uk/canb
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:11:59 +0100, Tim Ward wrote:

"Michael Hoffman" wrote in message
...
I'm meeting some people this Saturday morning around 04:30 before we go
on
for a flight. We are all all the same ticket for our flight on EasyJet
so
I am inclined to meet landside. Will they make us all check in at the
same
time? Somehow, even if not, it seems like it would be easier to address
problems from landside.

Anyway, does anyone have any suggestions on a good place to meet? Maybe
the Cafe Bar?

If easyJet run true to form it will go like this:

(1) check in doesn't open until two hours before scheduled time
(2) it takes longer than two hours to check everybody in (after which
you've
got the security queue of course)
(3) therefore you will meet in the check in queue whether you like it or
not.

(The days of "hand luggage only, check in at gate" have gone - think
toothpaste and nail scissors - thanks to America's War on Tourism.)



http://www.easyjet.com/B2B/EN/Airpor...e_checkin.html

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"Duncan Wood" wrote in message
news:op.ud27co0qpmo3dt@lucy...

(The days of "hand luggage only, check in at gate" have gone - think
toothpaste and nail scissors - thanks to America's War on Tourism.)

http://www.easyjet.com/B2B/EN/Airpor...e_checkin.html

So? this is useless for anything other than a day trip because of the:

"Should you decide to check any baggage into the hold anyway, you must check
in via the desk in the normal way."
bit (see toothpaste and nail scissors above). (To be fair, the OP didn't say
that they *weren't* doing a day trip.)

--
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Brett Ward Limited - www.brettward.co.uk
Cambridge Accommodation Notice Board - www.brettward.co.uk/canb
Cambridge City Councillor

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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:54:56 +0100, Tim Ward wrote:

"Duncan Wood" wrote in message
news:op.ud27co0qpmo3dt@lucy...

(The days of "hand luggage only, check in at gate" have gone - think
toothpaste and nail scissors - thanks to America's War on Tourism.)

http://www.easyjet.com/B2B/EN/Airpor...e_checkin.html

So? this is useless for anything other than a day trip because of the:

"Should you decide to check any baggage into the hold anyway, you must
check
in via the desk in the normal way."
bit (see toothpaste and nail scissors above). (To be fair, the OP didn't
say
that they *weren't* doing a day trip.)



Generally I can survive away from home for more than 24hrs without nail
scissors & toothpaste is available in most of the world nowadays.

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"Duncan Wood" wrote in message
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Generally I can survive away from home for more than 24hrs without nail
scissors & toothpaste is available in most of the world nowadays.

Yes, I had thought of the "buy a new set of luggage each flight" approach
but frankly it's too much hassle.

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Brett Ward Limited - www.brettward.co.uk
Cambridge Accommodation Notice Board - www.brettward.co.uk/canb
Cambridge City Councillor

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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:16:56 +0100, Tim Ward wrote:

"Duncan Wood" wrote in message
news:op.ud28exx5pmo3dt@lucy...

Generally I can survive away from home for more than 24hrs without nail
scissors & toothpaste is available in most of the world nowadays.

Yes, I had thought of the "buy a new set of luggage each flight" approach
but frankly it's too much hassle.


Take the luggage & just buy toothpaste in small tubes.

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"Duncan Wood" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:16:56 +0100, Tim Ward wrote:

"Duncan Wood" wrote in message
news:op.ud28exx5pmo3dt@lucy...

Generally I can survive away from home for more than 24hrs without nail
scissors & toothpaste is available in most of the world nowadays.

Yes, I had thought of the "buy a new set of luggage each flight" approach
but frankly it's too much hassle.

Take the luggage & just buy toothpaste in small tubes.

And nail scissors and hand cream and ...

The sooner the USA give up on their War on Tourism and start a War on
Something Else instead the better. Maybe with the new president.

Actually, given that every airport has thousands of pairs of confiscated
nail scissors, why don't they just let *arriving* passengers help themselves
to a pair? - save landfill tax.

--
Tim Ward - posting as an individual unless otherwise clear
Brett Ward Limited - www.brettward.co.uk
Cambridge Accommodation Notice Board - www.brettward.co.uk/canb
Cambridge City Councillor

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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:11:59 +0100, "Tim Ward"
wrote:

(The days of "hand luggage only, check in at gate" have gone - think
toothpaste and nail scissors - thanks to America's War on Tourism.)

You can take toothpaste on a plane, though it has to be in a silly
plastic bag. If I'm going away for a weekend, I hardly consider nail
scissors an important part of my kit.

Hand luggage only, with online check-in, is still very possible.
Indeed, it's how I fly most of the time.

Neil

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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:50:31 +0100, "Duncan Wood"
wrote:

Take the luggage & just buy toothpaste in small tubes.

A UK standard tube of toothpaste is well under 100ml. 70, I think.

Neil

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"Neil Williams" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:50:31 +0100, "Duncan Wood"
wrote:

Take the luggage & just buy toothpaste in small tubes.

A UK standard tube of toothpaste is well under 100ml. 70, I think.

The toothpaste is the easy part. And shampoo can be re-bottled

But try getting deodorant spray in the required size (roll-on is possible).

tim

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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:49:47 +0100, tim.....
wrote:

"Neil Williams" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:50:31 +0100, "Duncan Wood"
wrote:

Take the luggage & just buy toothpaste in small tubes.

A UK standard tube of toothpaste is well under 100ml. 70, I think.

The toothpaste is the easy part. And shampoo can be re-bottled

But try getting deodorant spray in the required size (roll-on is
possible).

Or solid, which counts as liquid.

Regards,

Helen




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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:49:47 +0100, "tim....."
wrote:

But try getting deodorant spray in the required size (roll-on is possible).

Roll-on is what I usually do. Does the job, and is vastly less
inconvenient than the time taken to check in a bag. I don't normally
use shampoo on a short trip, soap does the job, and in any case it's
free in a lot of hotels if the trip happens to involve staying in one.

(Actually, given the cost of checking in a bag on many airlines, it
would actually be cheaper to buy and chuck if you couldn't be bothered
with that)

Neil

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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:18:12 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:49:47 +0100, "tim....."
wrote:

But try getting deodorant spray in the required size (roll-on is
possible).

Roll-on is what I usually do. Does the job, and is vastly less
inconvenient than the time taken to check in a bag. I don't normally
use shampoo on a short trip, soap does the job, and in any case it's
free in a lot of hotels if the trip happens to involve staying in one.

(Actually, given the cost of checking in a bag on many airlines, it
would actually be cheaper to buy and chuck if you couldn't be bothered
with that)

Neil



That's one of those things that I always consider, fail to do before I get
there & then check in after they've pointed out that I owe them a fortune
charge me nothing for. I'm still trying to get my head round it.

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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:49:47 +0100, "tim....."
wrote:


"Neil Williams" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:50:31 +0100, "Duncan Wood"
wrote:

Take the luggage & just buy toothpaste in small tubes.

A UK standard tube of toothpaste is well under 100ml. 70, I think.

The toothpaste is the easy part. And shampoo can be re-bottled

But try getting deodorant spray in the required size (roll-on is possible).

Last time I flew for a weekend break, I took a deodorant that had its
size listed only in floz... it got through, even though technically (I
found out later) it shouldn't have!

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On 10 Jul, 20:49, (Neil Williams)
wrote:
You can take toothpaste on a plane, though it has to be in a silly
plastic bag.

I've wondered what the rules are on the "resealable
plastic bag". Can you take a supermarket grapes bag
or does it have to be of an approved design?

Also I was looking for a source of small squeezy bottles
for a few days' supply of e.g. shaving gel or toothpaste.
The squeezy bottles sold in travel shops are too large
(50-100ml, I'm looking for more like 10ml), and hotel
shampoo miniatures are rarely squeezy enough.

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In message , at 07:30:14 on
Fri, 11 Jul 2008, James Farrar remarked:
Last time I flew for a weekend break, I took a deodorant that had its
size listed only in floz... it got through, even though technically (I
found out later) it shouldn't have!

The restrictions were originally expressed (by the USA authorities) as 3
fl-oz. The Europeans then translated that into Millilitres (and rounded
it up a bit from 88). The plastic bag they go in started off life as a
US Quart - it's a standard item sold as a freezer bag.
--
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"Al Grant" wrote in message
...
On 10 Jul, 20:49, (Neil Williams)
wrote:
You can take toothpaste on a plane, though it has to be in a silly
plastic bag.

I've wondered what the rules are on the "resealable
plastic bag". Can you take a supermarket grapes bag
or does it have to be of an approved design?

Also I was looking for a source of small squeezy bottles
for a few days' supply of e.g. shaving gel or toothpaste.
The squeezy bottles sold in travel shops are too large
(50-100ml, I'm looking for more like 10ml), and hotel
shampoo miniatures are rarely squeezy enough.

I may be wrong (for that read "I'm probably wrong"), but I think the Body
Shop sell all manner of bottles. Maybe there's something squeezy enough
there?

Anthony

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:35:35 +0100, Anthony Deane
wrote:

I may be wrong (for that read "I'm probably wrong"), but I think the Body
Shop sell all manner of bottles. Maybe there's something squeezy enough
there?

I can't remember seeing 10ml-ish squeezy bottles anywhere -- that size
tends to be screwtop jars which you'd need a spatula to get stuff in and
out of.

Muji have all kinds of containers if you're in reach of one.

Regards,

Helen

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"Duncan Wood" wrote in message
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Generally I can survive away from home for more than 24hrs without nail
scissors & toothpaste is available in most of the world nowadays.

Indeed. Buy solid deodorant, tooth powder and solid shaving soap. I have
never
used one of the silly pastic liquid bags. If I really need to cut my nails
abroad,
nail clippers cost less than a pound most places...

Chris

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:38:18 +0100, Chris Shore
wrote:

"Duncan Wood" wrote in message
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Generally I can survive away from home for more than 24hrs without nail
scissors & toothpaste is available in most of the world nowadays.

Indeed. Buy solid deodorant, tooth powder and solid shaving soap.

I got the "you are a terrorist" treatment with solid deodorant at Newquay
in April. They were also sniffy about used bars of soap and solid shampoo,
and a hoggs pudding (though they might have thought that that was a
biological warfare risk).

Regards,

Helen

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HE Elsom wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:38:18 +0100, Chris Shore
wrote:

"Duncan Wood" wrote in message
news:op.ud28exx5pmo3dt@lucy...

Generally I can survive away from home for more than 24hrs without nail
scissors & toothpaste is available in most of the world nowadays.

Indeed. Buy solid deodorant, tooth powder and solid shaving soap.

I got the "you are a terrorist" treatment with solid deodorant at
Newquay in April. They were also sniffy about used bars of soap and
solid shampoo, and a hoggs pudding (though they might have thought that
that was a biological warfare risk).

By that standard they clearly expect everyone to be somewhat sniffy!

Please may I have some of what these people are on?

--

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In message , at 14:13:06 on
Fri, 11 Jul 2008, HE Elsom remarked:
Buy solid deodorant, tooth powder and solid shaving soap.

I got the "you are a terrorist" treatment with solid deodorant at
Newquay in April. They were also sniffy about used bars of soap and
solid shampoo, and a hoggs pudding (though they might have thought
that that was a biological warfare risk).

Solid deodorant is OK according to BAA's list; but other places may have
different interpretations.

http://www.baa.com/assets/B2CPortal/..._CantDec06.pdf

As we are talking about Luton, they have (had?) a big collection of
things (pinned on a noticeboard) that were banned (ie were liquids or
deemed to be pseudo-liquids). The one that surprised me was lip balm.

This was at a time before they introduced the plastic bags and you
couldn't take any of the things that are currently restricted to 100ml.
--
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 14:13:06 on Fri,
11 Jul 2008, HE Elsom remarked:
Buy solid deodorant, tooth powder and solid shaving soap.

I got the "you are a terrorist" treatment with solid deodorant at Newquay
in April. They were also sniffy about used bars of soap and solid shampoo,
and a hoggs pudding (though they might have thought that that was a
biological warfare risk).

Solid deodorant is OK according to BAA's list; but other places may have
different interpretations.

http://www.baa.com/assets/B2CPortal/..._CantDec06.pdf

I've flown with it into/out of US, China, Hong Kong, India, France, Vietnam,
Japan,
Germany, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore and Brazil so far and not had any
problems. If none
of those places query it, I'd be really surprised if I get pulled up
anywhere...

Chris

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HE Elsom wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:38:18 +0100, Chris Shore
wrote:

"Duncan Wood" wrote in message
news:op.ud28exx5pmo3dt@lucy...

Generally I can survive away from home for more than 24hrs without nail
scissors & toothpaste is available in most of the world nowadays.

Indeed. Buy solid deodorant, tooth powder and solid shaving soap.

I got the "you are a terrorist" treatment with solid deodorant at
Newquay in April. They were also sniffy about used bars of soap and
solid shampoo, and a hoggs pudding (though they might have thought that
that was a biological warfare risk).

Regards,

Helen


Using an aeroplane to get to Newquay and back makes you little better
than one in my eyes. What about taking a train?

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:53:49 +0100, magwitch wrote:

Using an aeroplane to get to Newquay and back makes you little better
than one in my eyes. What about taking a train?

I have no money, the flight was free and it was important for me to see
someone there. I hope that meets your moral standards.

Regards,

Helen


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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:01:45 +0100, HE Elsom wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:53:49 +0100, magwitch wrote:

Using an aeroplane to get to Newquay and back makes you little better
than one in my eyes. What about taking a train?

I have no money, the flight was free and it was important for me to see
someone there. I hope that meets your moral standards.

No.

Now go and eat a bucket of organic free-range wholewheat tofu as penance.

--
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HE Elsom wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:53:49 +0100, magwitch wrote:

Using an aeroplane to get to Newquay and back makes you little better
than one in my eyes. What about taking a train?

I have no money, the flight was free and it was important for me to see
someone there. I hope that meets your moral standards.

Regards,

Helen


Nothing to do with morality... what's this free airline called then?

I know RyanAir were doing flights to Italy for £4 last summer, but
your's sounds a better deal.

PS. I've experienced having no money as well, we used to hitch.

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In article ,
(Chris Shore) wrote:

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at
14:13:06 on Fri, 11 Jul 2008, HE Elsom
remarked:
Buy solid deodorant, tooth powder and solid shaving soap.

I got the "you are a terrorist" treatment with solid deodorant at
Newquay in April. They were also sniffy about used bars of soap
and solid shampoo, and a hoggs pudding (though they might have
thought that that was a biological warfare risk).

Solid deodorant is OK according to BAA's list; but other places
may have different interpretations.


http://www.baa.com/assets/B2CPortal/..._CantDec06.pdf

I've flown with it into/out of US, China, Hong Kong, India, France,
Vietnam, Japan, Germany, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore and Brazil so
far and not had any problems. If none of those places query it, I'd
be really surprised if I get pulled up anywhere...

Ah, but none of them have the best bolted stable doors in the world like
what we do.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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"Neil Williams" wrote in message
...

Hand luggage only, with online check-in, is still very possible.
Indeed, it's how I fly most of the time.

Mrs. F. and I are flying in October for 10 days in offtopic San Francisco
and Vegas /offtopic. I'm having trouble convincing her we can do it with
hand baggage!

Ian

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Ian F. wrote:
Mrs. F. and I are flying in October for 10 days in offtopic San
Francisco and Vegas /offtopic. I'm having trouble convincing her
we can do it with hand baggage!

http://www.onebag.com/

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Tim Ward wrote:
The sooner the USA give up on their War on Tourism and start a War on
Something Else instead the better. Maybe with the new president.

I think the War On The New President has started already...

Jon
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HE Elsom wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:35:35 +0100, Anthony Deane
wrote:

I may be wrong (for that read "I'm probably wrong"), but I think the Body
Shop sell all manner of bottles. Maybe there's something squeezy enough
there?

I can't remember seeing 10ml-ish squeezy bottles anywhere -- that size
tends to be screwtop jars which you'd need a spatula to get stuff in and
out of.

Cam.miscers could try Tesco's Fulbourn store, the rack to the left of
the pharmacy. They've got lots of things like small screw-top bottles
for cosmetics, and miniatures of toothpaste, shampoo, deodorant, etc.,
just exactly for flight purposes. Folks from u.t.l might like to try
their local Tesco's, if it's big enough.

Jon
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"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
.co.uk...

Solid deodorant is OK according to BAA's list; but other places
may have different interpretations.


http://www.baa.com/assets/B2CPortal/..._CantDec06.pdf

I've flown with it into/out of US, China, Hong Kong, India, France,
Vietnam, Japan, Germany, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore and Brazil so
far and not had any problems. If none of those places query it, I'd
be really surprised if I get pulled up anywhere...

Ah, but none of them have the best bolted stable doors in the world like
what we do.

The other end of almost all of those journeys has been the UK, so that
should obviously be in the list as well.

By far the biggest annoyance of recent years was the period when the UK,
in its desire to stop absent horses bolting, only allowed one carry-on item
while everywhere else on the planet allowed a carry-on plus
laptop/handbag/briefcase.

Chris

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HE Elsom wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:53:49 +0100, magwitch wrote:

Using an aeroplane to get to Newquay and back makes you little better
than one in my eyes. What about taking a train?

I have no money, the flight was free and it was important for me to see
someone there. I hope that meets your moral standards.

Look at it another way: the extra fuel burnt from the additional weight
of you and your baggage, since the plane was going to fly that route
anyway, was miniscule. You could probably offset it by growing a couple
of rows of carrots.

Not a point of view that's popular amongst eco-warriors, because it
reduces them to "*grumble* Shouldn't have a plane on that route anyway
*grumble, mumble*".

Jon
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On 14 Jul, 10:50, Jon Green wrote:
Using an aeroplane to get to Newquay and back makes you little better
than one in my eyes. What about taking a train?

I have no money, the flight was free and it was important for me to see
someone there. I hope that meets your moral standards.

Look at it another way: the extra fuel burnt from the additional weight
of you and your baggage, since the plane was going to fly that route
anyway, was miniscule. You could probably offset it by growing a couple
of rows of carrots.

Not a point of view that's popular amongst eco-warriors, because it
reduces them to "*grumble* Shouldn't have a plane on that route anyway
*grumble, mumble*".

OTOH her fare could have made the difference for the airline between
continuing the route and cancelling it as unprofitable.

--
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Jon Green wrote:
HE Elsom wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:53:49 +0100, magwitch wrote:

Using an aeroplane to get to Newquay and back makes you little better
than one in my eyes. What about taking a train?

I have no money, the flight was free and it was important for me to
see someone there. I hope that meets your moral standards.

Look at it another way: the extra fuel burnt from the additional weight
of you and your baggage, since the plane was going to fly that route
anyway, was miniscule. You could probably offset it by growing a couple
of rows of carrots.

Ever tried growing a couple of rows of carrots Jon?

Not a point of view that's popular amongst eco-warriors, because it
reduces them to "*grumble* Shouldn't have a plane on that route anyway
*grumble, mumble*".

Jon


All I can say is that during the '50s '60s and '70s people managed to
get to Devon or Cornwall for lovely holidays and the 4–6 hour car or
train journey was all part of the fun.

Just as the 5-day trip my college friend and I took down to Portugal to
stay with some family friends there. 30 years later, I remember
travelling through France and Spain in our clapped-out Hillman Frog-eye
Sprite far better than the ensuing 4 week holiday in Portugal itself.

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In message , at 12:31:18 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:
All I can say is that during the '50s '60s and '70s people managed to
get to Devon or Cornwall for lovely holidays and the 4–6 hour car or
train journey was all part of the fun.

I remember going down there by car pre-motorways, via the infamous
Honiton Bypass etc, and it wasn't much fun. Nor was it 4-6 hours!!
--
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John B wrote:
On 14 Jul, 10:50, Jon Green wrote:
Not a point of view that's popular amongst eco-warriors, because it
reduces them to "*grumble* Shouldn't have a plane on that route anyway
*grumble, mumble*".

OTOH her fare could have made the difference for the airline between
continuing the route and cancelling it as unprofitable.

Yeah, and mistimed butterfly-wing flappage over Brazil has caused plane
crashes.

The Newquay route is a nice little earner for Ryanair. They've expanded
their service there since inception, due to popularity.

If you want to understand why, try lugging a 8'6" mini-mal glass fibre
board, in its carry-bag (plus a bag full of neoprene and clothes) around
a few trains, and through the London Underground system betweentimes.
If you find a way of getting the board undamaged down the escalators
without causing distress and injury to fellow travellers, do let me
know. Or, for a real laugh, take them on the bus instead.

The East Runton (Norfolk) surf's OK on the occasional days when there's
decent long-travel waves down the North Sea and no wind behind to
flatten them, but if you want to surf where it's warm (I surf Runton in
a 5mm suit even in summer!) and you can usually find surfable conditions
_somewhere_, then the West Country's beaches are the usual choice, and
the only practical ways to get there are car or plane.

Given the joys of the A30 and A39, I'd say that the plane is probably
the more green option, bizarrely enough.

Not that Helen's was a surfing trip AFAICT, but all the same...

Jon
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:31:18 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:
All I can say is that during the '50s '60s and '70s people managed to
get to Devon or Cornwall for lovely holidays and the 4–6 hour car or
train journey was all part of the fun.

I remember going down there by car pre-motorways, via the infamous
Honiton Bypass etc, and it wasn't much fun. Nor was it 4-6 hours!!

Well as the irishman said that would depend where you started your
journey (or something).

We used to go via Winchester, past Stonehenge on the A303 in the car,
the train was wonderful, especially when you got to Dawlish and went
beside the beach, very exciting to see the sea right next to you.

On the way back we used to stop at the East Meon pub for fish and chips.
Nowadays, I suppose children would implode with boredom of the arduous
journey and it would permanently scar their psychology or something.