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Man electrocuted after urinating on track
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article...0&in_page_id=2
ISTR an episode of "Mythbusters" that suggested this wasn't possible (the stream would probably stops being a continuous one by the time it hit the live rail and thus wouldn't be able to conduct), although given the reports say he "walked onto the track" perhaps he accidentally made contact with the electrified line another way. ~cj |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
wrote in message ... http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article...0&in_page_id=2 ISTR an episode of "Mythbusters" that suggested this wasn't possible (the stream would probably stops being a continuous one by the time it hit the live rail and thus wouldn't be able to conduct), although given the reports say he "walked onto the track" perhaps he accidentally made contact with the electrified line another way. ~cj quote "According to the Sun, the man was in Britain in an attempt to improve his English." / quote But not including "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh" presumably. michael adams .... |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
"michael adams" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article...0&in_page_id=2 ISTR an episode of "Mythbusters" that suggested this wasn't possible (the stream would probably stops being a continuous one by the time it hit the live rail and thus wouldn't be able to conduct), although given the reports say he "walked onto the track" perhaps he accidentally made contact with the electrified line another way. ~cj quote "According to the Sun, the man was in Britain in an attempt to improve his English." / quote But not including "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh" presumably. michael adams I hope you're not taking the ****? MaxB |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
On 22 Jul, 17:52, "michael adams" wrote:
quote "According to the Sun, the man was in Britain in an attempt to improve his English." / quote But not including "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh" presumably. michael adams ... You do encounter some right ***dicks*** in newsgroups. |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
On 22 Jul, 20:05, Brian Robertson wrote:
Here to improve his scrounging more like. Brian. Do you think you could kindly bugger off? |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
Many years ago, when telephone lines were in
very short supply, 'party lines' were common. A party line, officially known as 'shared service', meant 2 premises sharing the same pair of wires. Incoming calls to one or the other were separated by arranging the 75 volt AC bell ringing current to travel out via one or other of the pair of wires and return to the exchange via 'earth'. This required driving a metal spike into the ground and connecting the bell's return path via 3-strand bare copper wire. One day I was called to a farm which had reported their dog howling in distress every time the phone rang. We sometimes had a laugh at the wording of some customer's reports but I went down to the farm all the same. I asked the operator to ring me back and sure enough, the dog gave first a little yelp and then a painful howl. After a few trials I went out into the yard to see the dog repeating the cycle, peeing as it did so. This couldn't be a coincidence, nor was it. The farmer had secured his dog with a new steel chain fastened by an eyebolt to a flat steel bar spiked into the farmhouse wall. In doing so he had broken the earth wire for the telephone. Instead of the ringing current going to earth via the spike it was travelling through the chain and the dog. The tickling of the 16.333 cycle 75V AC made the dog pee and gave the return ringing current an even lower resistance path to earth via its bladder and its willie. Given such circumstances, wouldn't we all howl? ;-) Regards, DigitisED (Eddie Bellass) Eddie & Margaret Bellass, Merseyside, United Kingdom. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free and checked by a leading anti-virus system - updated continuously. |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
"contrex" wrote in message ... On 22 Jul, 17:52, "michael adams" wrote: quote "According to the Sun, the man was in Britain in an attempt to improve his English." / quote But not including "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh" presumably. michael adams ... You do encounter some right ***dicks*** in newsgroups. And some people who are very easily shocked by the looks of things. michael adams .... |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
"Batman55" wrote in message ... "michael adams" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article...0&in_page_id=2 ISTR an episode of "Mythbusters" that suggested this wasn't possible (the stream would probably stops being a continuous one by the time it hit the live rail and thus wouldn't be able to conduct), although given the reports say he "walked onto the track" perhaps he accidentally made contact with the electrified line another way. ~cj quote "According to the Sun, the man was in Britain in an attempt to improve his English." / quote But not including "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh" presumably. michael adams I hope you're not taking the ****? MaxB .... Indeed not, that would be just too shocking ! michael adams .... |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:24:34 GMT, "Eddie Bellass"
wrote: Many years ago, when telephone lines were in very short supply, 'party lines' were common. A party line, officially known as 'shared service', meant 2 premises sharing the same pair of wires. Incoming calls to one or the other were separated by arranging the 75 volt AC bell ringing current to travel out via one or other of the pair of wires and return to the exchange via 'earth'. This required driving a metal spike into the ground and connecting the bell's return path via 3-strand bare copper wire. One day I was called to a farm which had reported their dog howling in distress every time the phone rang. We sometimes had a laugh at the wording of some customer's reports but I went down to the farm all the same. I asked the operator to ring me back and sure enough, the dog gave first a little yelp and then a painful howl. After a few trials I went out into the yard to see the dog repeating the cycle, peeing as it did so. This couldn't be a coincidence, nor was it. The farmer had secured his dog with a new steel chain fastened by an eyebolt to a flat steel bar spiked into the farmhouse wall. In doing so he had broken the earth wire for the telephone. Instead of the ringing current going to earth via the spike it was travelling through the chain and the dog. The tickling of the 16.333 cycle 75V AC made the dog pee and gave the return ringing current an even lower resistance path to earth via its bladder and its willie. Given such circumstances, wouldn't we all howl? ;-) Not so painful, but one day while I was doing my apprenticeship with PO telephones, we received a "Fault for Special Investigation" form for the local hairdressers. This was another installation using earthed ringing (plan 107 = 1 main telephone plus 1 switched extension at a different address) and the complaint was that it didn't work on Monday and Friday mornings. We turned up on one of the appropriate mornings and lo and behold it didn't work. Upon pulling out a few hardboard panels to trace the earth connection we found that the earth wire didn't go to any kind of proper earth connection but disappeared down the shop's drain which on the day following the weekend or early closing was dry and totally useless as a conductor. "Older viewers" might remember manual telephones. One of the early systems (Central Battery Signalling system No1 aka CBS1) also used an earthed bell circuit (the "clear" signal was given by earthing one side of the line via a low-resistance bell circuit) and in hot weather subscribers would occasionally be asked to go out and water the ground around the earth spike if they reported that their bell wasn't ringing. |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
michael adams wrote:
"According to the Sun, the man was in Britain in an attempt to improve his English." / quote But not including "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh" presumably. "Your wife is a big hippo?" Not sure that would have helped. Colin McKenzie -- No-one has ever proved that cycle helmets make cycling any safer at the population level, and anyway cycling is about as safe per mile as walking. Make an informed choice - visit www.cyclehelmets.org. |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
A TV show here in North America called "Myth Busters". The program sets out
to prove, or disprove myths. The "Busted" the peeing on the rail myth. See: - http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2003/10/m..._bricks_t.html -- Cheers Roger T. See the GER at: - http://www.islandnet.com/~rogertra/ |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
Yes Charles...
CBS1 was still around for about 7 years after I started work. The 'posh' areas around Warrington were built mainly on sandy soil and both the CBS1 and the CB system party lines, when the latter weren't fiercely resisted by wealthy and influential people, were always a problem to maintain in dry weather. The solution was to do as you described --- or to pray for rain! Regards, DigitisED (Eddie Bellass) Eddie & Margaret Bellass, Merseyside, United Kingdom. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free and checked by a leading anti-virus system - updated continuously. |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
Colin McKenzie wrote:
michael adams wrote: "According to the Sun, the man was in Britain in an attempt to improve his English." / quote But not including "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh" presumably. "Your wife is a big hippo?" Not sure that would have helped. I thought that translated as "my hovercraft is full of eels" -- Bruce Fletcher Stronsay, Orkney http://tinyurl.com/3b54af (Remove dentures to reply) |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
"Bruce Fletcher (Stronsay, Orkney)" wrote in
message ... Colin McKenzie wrote: michael adams wrote: "According to the Sun, the man was in Britain in an attempt to improve his English." / quote But not including "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh" presumably. "Your wife is a big hippo?" Not sure that would have helped. I thought that translated as "my hovercraft is full of eels" Nah, it means "My postilion has been struck by lightning". |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
wrote in message ... http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article...0&in_page_id=2 ISTR an episode of "Mythbusters" that suggested this wasn't possible (the stream would probably stops being a continuous one by the time it hit the live rail and thus wouldn't be able to conduct), although given the reports say he "walked onto the track" perhaps he accidentally made contact with the electrified line another way. I understand that there was a case of someone peeing over a brige somewhere between Sheffield and Manchester in the days when the Woodhead line was open. Peter Fox |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
"Peter Fox" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article...0&in_page_id=2 ISTR an episode of "Mythbusters" that suggested this wasn't possible (the stream would probably stops being a continuous one by the time it hit the live rail and thus wouldn't be able to conduct), although given the reports say he "walked onto the track" perhaps he accidentally made contact with the electrified line another way. I understand that there was a case of someone peeing over a brige somewhere between Sheffield and Manchester in the days when the Woodhead line was open. Peter Fox Trust me, it wouldn't need to be a continuous stream- it would be a case of 'join the drops'. I heard a (possibly apocryphal) story of a similar event during the WW2 blackouts, when three electrocuted male bodies were found next to a live rail. My boss, who used to be a Tonbridge guard, used to tell of a regular parcels turn to Bricklayer's Arms. After stabling the train, they would cross the SE mainline to get a pass back. If it was wet, and especially if it were a fine drizzle, they would get a mild belt when stepping over the live rail, as their despatch-riders' leather overcoats (this was before the days of free-issue Hi-Vis) would pass over it without touching. This was in rain, which is a relatively poor conductor in comparison with a liquid containing lots of dissolved salts. Brian |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
In article , BH Williams
scribeth thus "Peter Fox" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article...0&in_page_id=2 ISTR an episode of "Mythbusters" that suggested this wasn't possible (the stream would probably stops being a continuous one by the time it hit the live rail and thus wouldn't be able to conduct), although given the reports say he "walked onto the track" perhaps he accidentally made contact with the electrified line another way. I understand that there was a case of someone peeing over a brige somewhere between Sheffield and Manchester in the days when the Woodhead line was open. Peter Fox Trust me, it wouldn't need to be a continuous stream- it would be a case of 'join the drops'. I heard a (possibly apocryphal) story of a similar event during the WW2 blackouts, when three electrocuted male bodies were found next to a live rail. My boss, who used to be a Tonbridge guard, used to tell of a regular parcels turn to Bricklayer's Arms. After stabling the train, they would cross the SE mainline to get a pass back. If it was wet, and especially if it were a fine drizzle, they would get a mild belt when stepping over the live rail, as their despatch-riders' leather overcoats (this was before the days of free-issue Hi-Vis) would pass over it without touching. This was in rain, which is a relatively poor conductor in comparison with a liquid containing lots of dissolved salts. Brian Ummm..measurement called for W.R.T. plain old tap water.. -- Tony Sayer |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
One day I was called to a farm which had reported
their dog howling in distress every time the phone rang. ... The farmer had secured his dog with a new steel chain fastened by an eyebolt to a flat steel bar spiked into the farmhouse wall. In doing so he had broken the earth wire for the telephone. ... In the usual version of this story, the dog barks *before* the phone rings, because the phone doesn't get enough ringing current until the urine completes the circuit. Not that I believe it. -- Mark Brader, Toronto "I'd opt for Oz, myself." --Buck Henry |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
contrex wrote:
On 22 Jul, 20:05, Brian Robertson wrote: Here to improve his scrounging more like. Brian. Do you think you could kindly bugger off? Naaaah! |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
On 22 Jul, 17:17, wrote:
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article...=229490&in_pag... ISTR an episode of "Mythbusters" that suggested this wasn't possible (the stream would probably stops being a continuous one by the time it hit the live rail and thus wouldn't be able to conduct), although given the reports say he "walked onto the track" perhaps he accidentally made contact with the electrified line another way. Electrocution for peeing on a railway track is a very harsh penalty indeed. |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
On 22 Jul, 20:05, Brian Robertson wrote:
wrote: http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article...=229490&in_pag... ISTR an episode of "Mythbusters" that suggested this wasn't possible (the stream would probably stops being a continuous one by the time it hit the live rail and thus wouldn't be able to conduct), although given the reports say he "walked onto the track" perhaps he accidentally made contact with the electrified line another way. ~cj Who the hell is going to do the job that he would have stolen of an English worker now? Here to improve his scrounging more like. Brian. You are officially a ****ing idiot. I'm not paying 70% tax so old moochers like you get a decent pension, and if it needs foreigners here to pay taxes so you can live a life of riley until you die then so be it. |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
disgoftunwells wrote:
Electrocution for peeing on a railway track is a very harsh penalty indeed. Seems to be more a form of karma than a penalty. -- http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p14486550.html (66 067 at Carlisle, 24 Jul 2004) |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:40:22 GMT, Chris Tolley wrote:
disgoftunwells wrote: Electrocution for peeing on a railway track is a very harsh penalty indeed. Seems to be more a form of karma than a penalty. I think he's making a pedantic comment about the subject line. (Electrocution is a form of execution, not accidental death.) |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:50:40 +0100, asdf
wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:40:22 GMT, Chris Tolley wrote: disgoftunwells wrote: Electrocution for peeing on a railway track is a very harsh penalty indeed. Seems to be more a form of karma than a penalty. I think he's making a pedantic comment about the subject line. (Electrocution is a form of execution, not accidental death.) Not on the RHS of the pond it isn't. |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
On 24 Jul, 21:36, The Stoon wrote:
You are officially a ****ing idiot. I'm not paying 70% tax [SNIP] I hope you don't mind the fact that I corrected your post. -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
"asdf" wrote in message
... On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:40:22 GMT, Chris Tolley wrote: disgoftunwells wrote: Electrocution for peeing on a railway track is a very harsh penalty indeed. Seems to be more a form of karma than a penalty. I think he's making a pedantic comment about the subject line. (Electrocution is a form of execution, not accidental death.) No, electrocution means death by electric shock, whether accidental or as an execution: New Oxford Dictionary of English (2001) "electrocute: injure or kill someone by electric shock: 'a man was electrocuted on the rail track'" They even choose the same example as in this case! |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
In message , at 23:50:40 on
Thu, 24 Jul 2008, asdf remarked: I think he's making a pedantic comment about the subject line. Which does in fact say *after* urinating, not *while* urinating. -- Roland Perry |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
On 25 Jul, 00:25, John B wrote:
On 24 Jul, 21:36, The Stoon wrote: You are officially a ****ing idiot. I'm not paying 70% tax [SNIP] I hope you don't mind the fact that I corrected your post. -- John Band john at johnband dot orgwww.johnband.org As long as you don't mind if I come up and pull your head out of the sand... |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
On 25 Jul, 12:56, The Stoon wrote:
You are officially a ****ing idiot. I'm not paying 70% tax [SNIP] I hope you don't mind the fact that I corrected your post. As long as you don't mind if I come up and pull your head out of the sand... Go on then, please explain how 70% of your income goes to the state in a country when tax revenues are 45ish% of GDP. -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Mortimer wrote:
"asdf" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:40:22 GMT, Chris Tolley wrote: disgoftunwells wrote: Electrocution for peeing on a railway track is a very harsh penalty indeed. Seems to be more a form of karma than a penalty. I think he's making a pedantic comment about the subject line. (Electrocution is a form of execution, not accidental death.) No, electrocution means death by electric shock, whether accidental or as an execution: New Oxford Dictionary of English (2001) "electrocute: injure or kill someone by electric shock: 'a man was electrocuted on the rail track'" They even choose the same example as in this case! And from the big OED: 1. trans. To put to death by means of a powerful electric current; to execute in the electric chair. 1889 Trenton (New Jersey) Times 7 June 4/2 (heading) He wants to be electrocuted... An offer on the part of a man..to act as a victim..by testing the..new apparatus for executing by electricity. 1890 Congress. Rec. 8375/1 That the gentleman..should be electrocuted by the Kemmler process recently adopted in the state of New York. 1903 W. D. HOWELLS Lett. Home v 32, I could be sitting this moment with the transmitter at my mouth, and the receivers strapped to both ears, and looking as if I were just going to be electrocuted. 1945 N. MITFORD Pursuit of Love xiii. 101, I bet the Scotsboro' boys will be electrocuted in the end, if they don't die of old age first, that is. 2001 Times (Nexis) 28 July, In Georgia I stood outside death row as the state electrocuted a man I thought was probably innocent. 2. trans. To give an electric shock to; esp. (chiefly refl. or in pass.) to kill or injure by electric shock. 1890 Freeborn County Standard (Albert Lea, Minnesota) (Electronic text) 24 Sept., When venture-some rodents walk within a metallic cage, containing cheese, they are transfixed by a strong electric current and electrocuted. 1899 Times 11 Apr. 1/4 Continuation of the Monster Holiday Show. Marvellous performances... See to-day, at 3 and 8, Dr. Walford Bodie electrocute a man. 1909 Yorkshire Post 4 Aug. 4/5 [A boy] who was electrocuted on the Mersey Railway last Saturday. 1939 D. L. SAYERS In Teeth of Evid. 9 One of them got loose last time and tried to electrocute itself on the X-ray plant. 1988 Courier-Mail (Brisbane) (Nexis) 10 May, I was electrocuted. I can still smell the flesh burning. 2004 Chicago Tribune (Midwest ed) 11 July X. 23/2, I wasn't going to touch a battery{em}I'd have electrocuted myself. So, the word was coined (in the US) to mean execution, but within a year it had shifted to mean killing more generally, even in the US. tom -- No noon today. Noon tomorrow. There's always a noon tomorrow. |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
Tom Anderson wrote:
So, the word was coined (in the US) to mean execution, but within a year it had shifted to mean killing more generally, even in the US. Edison is believed to have introduced the word "electrocution" after a few false starts, see http://edison.rutgers.edu/emort.htm -- Bruce Fletcher Stronsay, Orkney http://tinyurl.com/3b54af (Remove dentures to reply) |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
Mortimer wrote:
No, electrocution means death by electric shock, whether accidental or as an execution: New Oxford Dictionary of English (2001) "electrocute: injure or kill someone by electric shock: 'a man was electrocuted on the rail track'" They even choose the same example as in this case! That's interesting: I have always maintained that "electrocute" should only be used when the electric shock leads to death - in line with "execute", and as you have put it. I am surprised that the OED extends it to non-fatal injury. Peter Beale |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
Peter Beale wrote:
Mortimer wrote: No, electrocution means death by electric shock, whether accidental or as an execution: New Oxford Dictionary of English (2001) "electrocute: injure or kill someone by electric shock: 'a man was electrocuted on the rail track'" They even choose the same example as in this case! That's interesting: I have always maintained that "electrocute" should only be used when the electric shock leads to death - in line with "execute", and as you have put it. I am surprised that the OED extends it to non-fatal injury. What word do you use for the other case, then? -- http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9632865.html (33 063 at Ludlow, Aug 1982) |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
Chris Tolley wrote:
Peter Beale wrote: Mortimer wrote: No, electrocution means death by electric shock, whether accidental or as an execution: New Oxford Dictionary of English (2001) "electrocute: injure or kill someone by electric shock: 'a man was electrocuted on the rail track'" They even choose the same example as in this case! That's interesting: I have always maintained that "electrocute" should only be used when the electric shock leads to death - in line with "execute", and as you have put it. I am surprised that the OED extends it to non-fatal injury. What word do you use for the other case, then? Suffered an electric shock, was badly injured by an electric shock/lightning... Peter Beale |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
On 24 Jul, 23:50, asdf wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:40:22 GMT, Chris Tolley wrote: disgoftunwells wrote: Electrocution for peeing on a railway track is a very harsh penalty indeed. Seems to be more a form of karma than a penalty. I think he's making a pedantic comment about the subject line. (Electrocution is a form of execution, not accidental death.) I believe it was sci-fi write Robert Heinlein who wrote "in space, stupidity is punishable by death" |
Man electrocuted after urinating on track
The Stoon wrote:
On 22 Jul, 20:05, Brian Robertson wrote: wrote: http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article...=229490&in_pag... ISTR an episode of "Mythbusters" that suggested this wasn't possible (the stream would probably stops being a continuous one by the time it hit the live rail and thus wouldn't be able to conduct), although given the reports say he "walked onto the track" perhaps he accidentally made contact with the electrified line another way. ~cj Who the hell is going to do the job that he would have stolen of an English worker now? Here to improve his scrounging more like. Brian. You are officially a ****ing idiot. I'm not paying 70% tax so old moochers like you get a decent pension, and if it needs foreigners here to pay taxes so you can live a life of riley until you die then so be it. I doubt if either of us will draw a pension, or live a life of Riley in our old age, dear boy. Brian. |
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