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MIG October 8th 08 02:02 PM

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On Oct 8, 2:13*pm, Boltar wrote:
On Oct 8, 11:58 am, David Cantrell wrote:

Looks like my boss needs the same reality check then, as do the HR
department here. *Because if I have to work away from my normal
location, I get compensated for any extra time spent travelling and any
extra money spent on travel.


So if your normal journey is 5 miles and you had to travel 10 to
another office you'd get paid for that extra 5 miles when normally you
wouldn't be paid at all for the trip? Thats a very generous company
you have.


It should simply be the extra expense incurred. If I go somewhere for
work that's covered by my travelcard (if I've got one) I don't claim
anything. If it's a shorter distance in the opposite direction it
costs me extra for going out of my zones, so I'd claim expenses.


John B October 8th 08 02:45 PM

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On Oct 8, 2:13*pm, Boltar wrote:
Looks like my boss needs the same reality check then, as do the HR
department here. *Because if I have to work away from my normal
location, I get compensated for any extra time spent travelling and any
extra money spent on travel.


So if your normal journey is 5 miles and you had to travel 10 to
another office you'd get paid for that extra 5 miles when normally you
wouldn't be paid at all for the trip? Thats a very generous company
you have.


From my employers' expenses policy:

1)
Your "base office" or "permanent workplace" is the place you regularly
go to in order to carry out the duties of your employment. A staff
member working for 40% or more of their time in a new location away
from their normal base office for a period expected to be longer than
two years is seen by HMRC to have a new workplace.

2)
You can claim the cost of business travel, that is, journeys away from
your normal base office while undertaking the firm's business. You
should claim any actual additional costs you incur, above what you
would normally spend for commuting to work (which you cannot claim as
a business expense).

The only relevant exception is:

3)
Staff in London who have a rail season ticket which enables them to
use the underground can only claim for travel between London offices
if they incur extra expense and can provide a receipt as proof of the
expense.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

Neil Williams October 8th 08 07:43 PM

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On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 07:45:54 -0700 (PDT), John B
wrote:

2)
You can claim the cost of business travel, that is, journeys away from
your normal base office while undertaking the firm's business. You
should claim any actual additional costs you incur, above what you
would normally spend for commuting to work (which you cannot claim as
a business expense).


Quite interesting - the companies I've worked for that might involve
that (only two, I admit) would pay *full* expenses from travelling
from home to a non-base location and would not require the normal
commuting cost to be subtracted. This is permitted by the tax rules,
BTW, so long as you aren't making a journey to your normal place of
work and *then* onto another destination.

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

rosenstiel@cix.compulink.co.uk October 8th 08 08:56 PM

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In article
,
(John B) wrote:

You can claim the cost of business travel, that is, journeys away from
your normal base office while undertaking the firm's business. You
should claim any actual additional costs you incur, above what you
would normally spend for commuting to work (which you cannot claim as
a business expense).


You could of course be paid the latter. It's just that it will have to be
taxed as a perk.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry October 8th 08 09:26 PM

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In message , at 15:56:31
on Wed, 8 Oct 2008, remarked:
You can claim the cost of business travel, that is, journeys away from
your normal base office while undertaking the firm's business. You
should claim any actual additional costs you incur, above what you
would normally spend for commuting to work (which you cannot claim as
a business expense).


You could of course be paid the latter. It's just that it will have to be
taxed as a perk.


Some companies, however, take the view that they only want to pay you
expenses that *won't* be taxed as a perk, because it simplifies their
paperwork enormously. (Although they have then fallen into the trap of
being an unpaid tax inspector).
--
Roland Perry

rosenstiel@cix.compulink.co.uk October 8th 08 10:38 PM

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In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
15:56:31 on Wed, 8 Oct 2008,

remarked:
You can claim the cost of business travel, that is, journeys away
from your normal base office while undertaking the firm's business.
You should claim any actual additional costs you incur, above what
you would normally spend for commuting to work (which you cannot
claim as a business expense).


You could of course be paid the latter. It's just that it will have to
be taxed as a perk.


Some companies, however, take the view that they only want to pay
you expenses that *won't* be taxed as a perk, because it simplifies
their paperwork enormously. (Although they have then fallen into
the trap of being an unpaid tax inspector).


And others think otherwise.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Barry Salter October 9th 08 12:34 AM

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Boltar wrote:

AFAIK LU provide taxis' for just this eventuality.

LU have an extensive network of staff taxis running at stupid o'clock in
the morning.

Destinations served other than LU stations/buildings include Elstree,
Epsom Downs, Yiewsley, West Drayton, West Croydon, Eltham (Yorkshire
Grey), Edmonton Green, Enfield Town, Enfield Lock and Waltham Cross Bus
Station.

Cheers,

Barry

Fig[_2_] October 9th 08 06:45 AM

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On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:34:17 +0100, Barry Salter
wrote:

Boltar wrote:

AFAIK LU provide taxis' for just this eventuality.

LU have an extensive network of staff taxis running at stupid o'clock in
the morning.

Destinations served other than LU stations/buildings include Elstree,
Epsom Downs, Yiewsley, West Drayton, West Croydon, Eltham (Yorkshire
Grey), Edmonton Green, Enfield Town, Enfield Lock and Waltham Cross Bus
Station.

Care to explain?

Barry Salter October 9th 08 10:03 AM

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Fig wrote:

Care to explain?


To enable London Underground staff to get to/from work late at night and
early in the morning, there are a number of scheduled staff taxi
services linking LU stations, depots and offices to various areas around
(and just outside) Greater London.

The full list is on the LU Intranet, with updates being published in the
weekly Traffic Circular (which we get copies of at work).

Cheers,

Barry



David Cantrell October 9th 08 10:45 AM

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On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 06:13:29AM -0700, Boltar wrote:
On Oct 8, 11:58 am, David Cantrell wrote:
Looks like my boss needs the same reality check then, as do the HR
department here. Because if I have to work away from my normal
location, I get compensated for any extra time spent travelling and any
extra money spent on travel.

So if your normal journey is 5 miles and you had to travel 10 to
another office you'd get paid for that extra 5 miles when normally you
wouldn't be paid at all for the trip? Thats a very generous company
you have.


I get compensated for the difference in cost between my normal commute
and the cost of the different journey. That's not generous at all,
that's just them covering expenses. Every single company I've ever
worked for did that.

--
David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice

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