In article ,
John Rowland wrote:
"Stevie" wrote in message
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Actually, I suspect the decision to keep both Waterloo
and St Pancras open was made just so that the SRA,
or whoever runs the railways these days, can make
a big point of London having *two* International Train
stations...

Three (Stratford).



Very handy (for me, in London E14:-)

And also for the Olympics??

Gordo

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or whoever runs the railways these days, can make
a big point of London having *two* International Train
stations...

Three (Stratford).

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I have never seen a convincing argument for building the London terminus at
St Pancras. Its as if the French end of the route terminated somewherein
South East Paris. The trains should surely have passed through Stratford on
their way to the North East or North West, or terminated at Stratford as
applicable.

Paul

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:59:33 +0000 (UTC) in uk.transport.london, "Paul Scott"
tapped out on the keyboard:


I have never seen a convincing argument for building the London terminus at
St Pancras. Its as if the French end of the route terminated somewherein
South East Paris. The trains should surely have passed through Stratford on
their way to the North East or North West, or terminated at Stratford as
applicable.


It's a great pity that a great joint mainline station was never built in London,
enabling interchange between all inter-city routes. But, St Pancras is next to
Kings Cross and close to Euston (perhaps a travolator will be built) so is
convenient for most routes north of London, and Stratford is convenient for East
Anglia. Connections for the west are dire however.

I find it odd that Crossrail will not serve Kings Cross / St Pancras.

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St George for England, St Pancras for Sco...er...France!

"Stephen O'Connell" wrote in message
...
Stuart wrote:
Stevie wrote:
It seems a bit strange that after they spend the billions of pounds on
the nice shiny new route and enlarging St Pancras they then carry on
using Waterloo.

Mind you, it would seem strange after the millions of pounds building a
lovely international terminal at Waterloo not to use it

Yeah and think of the fun we've all had at having French visitors to the
UK
arriving in London at a station called Waterloo! St.Pancras just doesn't
have the same er....ring to it, does it? :-)

JRS: In article , seen in
news:uk.transport.london, John Youles mines.a.pint@localhost.? posted
at Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:31:15 :-

It's a great pity that a great joint mainline station was never built in London,
enabling interchange between all inter-city routes. But, St Pancras is next to
Kings Cross and close to Euston (perhaps a travolator will be built) so is
convenient for most routes north of London, and Stratford is convenient for East
Anglia. Connections for the west are dire however.

Build a four-or-more track main-line full-gauge railway, in at least two
bores, on a roughly circular route of two or three kilometres radius
centred on Nelson's Column, and at such a depth as to miss artificial
obstructions.

Join it to each major radial route with grade-separated junctions for
all directions, as if it were a motorway; but in some cases at least
allow direct access to at least 2 tracks in each direction round the
ring.

Use additional tracks where stations are needed, and there give
escalator / travelator / lift access to Underground stations and to the
surface.

Pay for it by selling off about half of each existing mail-line
terminus, which will no longer be needed.

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