On Nov 25, 9:40 pm, wrote:
Just let it be said you are, not for the first time, spouting ignorant
********. If you haven't yet been confronted with the sheer
industrialisation of killing by the Nazis then perhaps it's time you were.

Imbecile. Read this and get a sense of perspective.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history

People who constantly bang on about the nazis being some sort of
unusual aberation generally know bugger all about history. Genocide
and victimisation of a particular ethnic group has been happening for
as long as someone has been able to wield a stick. Get over yourself.

B2003

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:53:33 -0800 (PST) someone who may be Boltar
wrote this:-

Thats your problem then. No one else cares.

Yawn.



--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

On Nov 26, 10:21 am, David Hansen
wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:53:33 -0800 (PST) someone who may be Boltar
wrote this:-

Thats your problem then. No one else cares.

Yawn.

That was my reaction to your post too. Funny that eh?

B2003

In article
,
(Boltar) wrote:

On Nov 25, 9:40 pm, wrote:
Just let it be said you are, not for the first time, spouting ignorant
********. If you haven't yet been confronted with the sheer
industrialisation of killing by the Nazis then perhaps it's time you
were.

Imbecile. Read this and get a sense of perspective.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history

People who constantly bang on about the nazis being some sort of
unusual aberation generally know bugger all about history. Genocide
and victimisation of a particular ethnic group has been happening for
as long as someone has been able to wield a stick. Get over yourself.

You just don't understand the difference. It's time you did. Plonk.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Nov 26, 1:47 pm, wrote:
People who constantly bang on about the nazis being some sort of
unusual aberation generally know bugger all about history. Genocide
and victimisation of a particular ethnic group has been happening for
as long as someone has been able to wield a stick. Get over yourself.

You just don't understand the difference. It's time you did. Plonk.

Obviously you didn't bother to read that page and are just resorting
to standard issue knee jerk responses. Of course putting me in your
kill file nicely obviates the need for you to argue your case, which
means your probably can't.

Though if someone can explain what the difference is between this and
anything the nazis did with a certain other ethnic group (who do
sometimes seem to give the impression they were the only ones who have
been ethnically cleansed in the whole of history , never mind WW2) I'd
be interested in hearing it:

"The Armenian Genocide was conceived and carried out by the Ottoman
Empire from 1915 to 1923, resulting in the deportation of nearly
2,000,000 Armenians, of whom 1,500,000 men, women, and children were
killed, 500,000 survivors were expelled from their homes, and which
succeeded in the elimination of the over 2,500-year presence of
Armenians in their historic homeland"

or perhaps this:

"During the Congo Civil War, Pygmies were hunted down and eaten by
both sides of the war, who regarded them as subhuman.[198] Sinafasi
Makelo, a representative of Mbuti pygmies, has asked the UN Security
Council to recognize cannibalism as a crime against humanity and an
act of genocide.[199] According to a report by Minority Rights Group
International there is evidence of mass killings, cannibalism and
rape. "

or this

"From the 1490s when Christopher Columbus set foot on the Americas to
the massacre of Sioux at Wounded Knee by the United States militia,
the indigenous population of the Western Hemisphere may have declined
by as many as 100 million."

etc etc

B2003

In article
,
(Boltar) wrote:

On Nov 26, 1:47 pm, wrote:
People who constantly bang on about the nazis being some sort of
unusual aberation generally know bugger all about history. Genocide
and victimisation of a particular ethnic group has been happening
for as long as someone has been able to wield a stick. Get over
yourself.

You just don't understand the difference. It's time you did.
Plonk.

Obviously you didn't bother to read that page and are just resorting
to standard issue knee jerk responses. Of course putting me in your
kill file nicely obviates the need for you to argue your case, which
means your probably can't.

Wrong assumption again. You are being particularly blind to the facts,
even for you. The site also distinguishes the cases you cite, e.g. that
most American Indians probably died from disease, admittedly imported by
Europeans. And the numbers vary wildly.

Though if someone can explain what the difference is between this and
anything the nazis did with a certain other ethnic group (who do
sometimes seem to give the impression they were the only ones who have
been ethnically cleansed in the whole of history , never mind WW2) I'd
be interested in hearing it:

"The Armenian Genocide was conceived and carried out by the Ottoman
Empire from 1915 to 1923, resulting in the deportation of nearly
2,000,000 Armenians, of whom 1,500,000 men, women, and children were
killed, 500,000 survivors were expelled from their homes, and which
succeeded in the elimination of the over 2,500-year presence of
Armenians in their historic homeland"

or perhaps this:

"During the Congo Civil War, Pygmies were hunted down and eaten by
both sides of the war, who regarded them as subhuman.[198] Sinafasi
Makelo, a representative of Mbuti pygmies, has asked the UN Security
Council to recognize cannibalism as a crime against humanity and an
act of genocide.[199] According to a report by Minority Rights Group
International there is evidence of mass killings, cannibalism and
rape. "

or this

"From the 1490s when Christopher Columbus set foot on the Americas to
the massacre of Sioux at Wounded Knee by the United States militia,
the indigenous population of the Western Hemisphere may have declined
by as many as 100 million."

I suggest you visit http://www.bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch/directory.html
and see some of the sheer industrialisation of the extermination process.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Nov 26, 3:08 pm, wrote:
Wrong assumption again. You are being particularly blind to the facts,
I suggest you visithttp://www.bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch/directory.html
and see some of the sheer industrialisation of the extermination process.

So what makes killing in a cellar with gas so much worse than being
shot and left to die in some bosnian forest or cambodian field under a
pile of corpses? You think all the other genocides that have happened
in the world were all done on the spur of the moment and stopped at
few truck loads of peasents? You think Pol Pot didn't have a master
plan? You think Saddam gassed the kurds by mistake? Yes , 6 million
jews died an appalling death. But so have many others all over the
world in just as appalling conditions with the same amount of hate
from the perpertraitors.

B2003

Boltar wrote:
On Nov 26, 3:08 pm, wrote:
Wrong assumption again. You are being particularly blind to the
facts,
I suggest you
visithttp://www.bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch/directory.html and see
some of the sheer industrialisation of the extermination process.

So what makes killing in a cellar with gas so much worse than being
shot and left to die in some bosnian forest or cambodian field under a
pile of corpses? You think all the other genocides that have happened
in the world were all done on the spur of the moment and stopped at
few truck loads of peasents? You think Pol Pot didn't have a master
plan? You think Saddam gassed the kurds by mistake? Yes , 6 million
jews died an appalling death. But so have many others all over the
world in just as appalling conditions with the same amount of hate
from the perpertraitors.

"perpertrators".

John the spelling Nazi

John Rowland wrote:
Boltar wrote:
On Nov 26, 3:08 pm, wrote:
Wrong assumption again. You are being particularly blind to the
facts,
I suggest you
visithttp://www.bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch/directory.html and see
some of the sheer industrialisation of the extermination process.

So what makes killing in a cellar with gas so much worse than being
shot and left to die in some bosnian forest or cambodian field under
a pile of corpses? You think all the other genocides that have
happened in the world were all done on the spur of the moment and
stopped at few truck loads of peasents? You think Pol Pot didn't
have a master plan? You think Saddam gassed the kurds by mistake?
Yes , 6 million jews died an appalling death. But so have many
others all over the world in just as appalling conditions with the
same amount of hate from the perpertraitors.

"perpertrators".

John the spelling Nazi

Aw crap.

On Nov 26, 6:52 pm, wrote:

Was the locomotive able to run on a 750V system?

Yes it went to Portsmouth and Folkestone at least

hence on her tours on the Southern she operated
coupled to some older Southern Units which provided the air for
braking .

Not always.

I think it was only open day shuttles where it worked like that - I'd
possibly go as far so say there were more tours in LH form than with
other EMU.

The tours I cited used SR Mk.1 AB stock - well at least the Portsmouth
one did as I was one it, and here a pic

http://wobblewinterwanderings.fotopi...p51955561.html

--
Nick