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Mr G December 5th 08 07:10 AM

Crossrail NOT making connections
 
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
If you want another modern example, how about BART? Outside the city
centres it is elevated apart from sections in the central median of
freeways.


I've thought of another American city with an elevated transit line, San
Diego. The Green Line Trolley is elevated for much of its length
alongside highway 8, including 2 or 3 stations.

Roland Perry December 5th 08 07:27 AM

Crossrail NOT making connections
 
In message , at 00:10:58 on Fri, 5 Dec
2008, Mr G remarked:
I've thought of another American city with an elevated transit line


The North-South Marta line in Atlanta has several elevated sections, at
either end if I recall correctly.
--
Roland Perry

John Rowland December 5th 08 03:00 PM

Crossrail NOT making connections
 
Andrew Heenan wrote:
"Graeme Wall" wrote ...
As it happens, up till today, no one has offered one single
argument FOR Shenfield, other than operational convenience. I've
suggested more than once that that is simply not an adequate way
to do it; it's that kind of approach that gets rail enthusiasts a
bad name.

It's very simple, Crossrail trains will take over the slow line
services which currently run to Shenfield. By an amazing
coincidence Shenfield has the facilities to allow the trains to
terminate and return to London.


So have Margate, Uckfield and Blackpool, I think.


Uckfield is electrified?



Peter Masson December 5th 08 03:55 PM

Crossrail NOT making connections
 

"John Rowland" wrote in message
...
Andrew Heenan wrote:
"Graeme Wall" wrote ...
As it happens, up till today, no one has offered one single
argument FOR Shenfield, other than operational convenience. I've
suggested more than once that that is simply not an adequate way
to do it; it's that kind of approach that gets rail enthusiasts a
bad name.
It's very simple, Crossrail trains will take over the slow line
services which currently run to Shenfield. By an amazing
coincidence Shenfield has the facilities to allow the trains to
terminate and return to London.


So have Margate, Uckfield and Blackpool, I think.


Uckfield is electrified?

and Blackpool?

Peter



Peter Masson December 5th 08 03:59 PM

Crossrail NOT making connections
 

"Peter Masson" wrote in message
...

"John Rowland" wrote in message
...
Andrew Heenan wrote:
"Graeme Wall" wrote ...
As it happens, up till today, no one has offered one single
argument FOR Shenfield, other than operational convenience. I've
suggested more than once that that is simply not an adequate way
to do it; it's that kind of approach that gets rail enthusiasts a
bad name.
It's very simple, Crossrail trains will take over the slow line
services which currently run to Shenfield. By an amazing
coincidence Shenfield has the facilities to allow the trains to
terminate and return to London.

So have Margate, Uckfield and Blackpool, I think.


Uckfield is electrified?

and Blackpool?

and now they're not planned to go beyond Abbey Wood they won't have 3rd rail
capability, so won't get very far towards Margate.

Peter



Mr G December 6th 08 07:04 AM

Crossrail NOT making connections
 
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 00:10:58 on Fri, 5 Dec
2008, Mr G remarked:
I've thought of another American city with an elevated transit line


The North-South Marta line in Atlanta has several elevated sections, at
either end if I recall correctly.


....and I meant to mention the aptly named Sky Train in Vancouver. So
there are a lot, really!

[email protected] December 6th 08 05:05 PM

Crossrail NOT making connections
 
In article ,
(Peter Masson) wrote:

Paddington to Maidenhead is 24 miles, and on to Reading a further 12 -
so even without remodelling Reading it will cost quite a bit to wire on
to Reading.


I know about boiling frogs and all that but... 12 miles of OHLE can't be
that much, surely? Especially not if Uncle Roger's rolling programme has
finally started?

However, Reading to London passengers would be unlikely to use
Crossrail if it ran from Reading, as it will be much quicker to take a
non-stop HST to Paddington, and change to LUL or Crossrail there. So
terminating Croassrail at Maidenhead makes good business sense and
operational nonsense.


Why do you think passengers won't want the direct Crossrail services to
their London destinations? Paddington has crap connections to loads of
likely destinations for Reading passengers.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] December 6th 08 05:05 PM

Crossrail NOT making connections
 
In article ,
(Tom Anderson) wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/1591807010/sizes/o/

Why does that link ask me to log on?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] December 6th 08 05:05 PM

Crossrail NOT making connections
 
In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

And where is the obvious place "past Shenfield"? Colchester is the
nearest that makes sense.


Chelmsford!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Tom Anderson December 6th 08 06:24 PM

Crossrail NOT making connections
 
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, wrote:

In article ,
(Tom Anderson) wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/1591807010/sizes/o/

Why does that link ask me to log on?


Er, to prevent terrorism?

Sorry, i think i should have posted a direct link to the image:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2176/...3ca08395_o.png

tom

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