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I'm going to a comedy recording at Wood Lane on Friday so I thought I
would change at Clapham Junction for the new Shepherds Bush overground station. When I looked it up on the National rail Enquiries website I was surprised to find that the cheapest off peak return is £16.00. I can get a return to London with travelcard for £16.80! A return to Clapham Junction is £11.50 and from C Jn to Shep Bush is £3.00 so I am surprised that a through ticket is more expensive. The SWT ticket machines don't seem to list Shepherds Bush so I was unable to check on that. So what is the cheapest fare? Or can I rely on a Fleet to London Stations ticket? Thx, Phil |
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So what is the cheapest fare? *Or can I rely on a Fleet to London Stations ticket? Thx, *Phil If you have a Fleet to London Terminals season ticket this will cover you to Clapham Junction. Not sure about the last bit, would probably say yes but I am sure one of our routing guide experts will be along to comment shortly! |
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On 4 Dec, 14:22, wrote:
I'm going to a comedy recording at Wood Lane on Friday so I thought I would change at Clapham Junction for the new Shepherds Bush overground station. It's a fair old walk, although I guess you could go through Westfield on the way (or you can walk along the south side of it without venturing in). But I'd get the tube from SB to WC. When I looked it up on the National rail Enquiries website I was surprised to find that the cheapest off peak return is £16.00. *I can get a return to London with travelcard for £16.80! * That's super-off peak, which means it's valid on fewer trains to London than the £16 off-peak ticket, although this may not affect you. A return to Clapham Junction is £11.50 and from C Jn to Shep Bush is £3.00 so I am surprised that a through ticket is more expensive. But the £11.50 is super-off peak. The off-peak fare to CJ is £14.10, which fits with the £16 off-peak to SB. There doesn't seem to be a super off-peak fare to Shepherd's Bush, hence the anomaly. U |
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On 4 Dec, 14:27, wrote:
. So what is the cheapest fare? *Or can I rely on a Fleet to London Stations ticket? Thx, *Phil If you have a Fleet to London Terminals season ticket this will cover you to Clapham Junction. *Not sure about the last bit, would probably say yes but I am sure one of our routing guide experts will be along to comment shortly! No, I'll be buying a ticket on the day. I have a Network Card so it doesn't make much difference what I get (the min fare is £10, a discounted £16.00 fare will cost me about £10.70, and a discounted Travelcard is £11.30 IIRC) but I was interested in why a return to Shep Bush via CJn was so expensive compared with a return to Waterloo plus travelcard, or indeed a return to CJn plus CJn/SB return (or even Oyster). It's doubly annoying if it isn't on the SWT ticket machine as I'll have to go to the station when it's actually open, which is getting rarer. |
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On Dec 4, 2:27*pm, wrote:
So what is the cheapest fare? *Or can I rely on a Fleet to London Stations ticket? If you have a Fleet to London Terminals season ticket this will cover you to Clapham Junction. *Not sure about the last bit, would probably say yes but I am sure one of our routing guide experts will be along to comment shortly! *waves*. Fleet to London Terminals tickets are routed by maps CS and WR, or by map WX. Map WX covers Fleet to Clapham Junction (it's basically the SWT map), but not beyond - it only gets you into Waterloo or Victoria. Maps CS and WR cover the GWML route into London via Reading and Slough. They also allow you to travel via Hayes, Kensington Olympia and Clapham into Waterloo. If you were to go this way, and catch one of the occasional XC services that takes the route, then this'd get you as far as Olympia... however, you'd still have to pay gbp3 for the return Olympia-Shepherds Bush fare, as well as taking a ridiculous route. So it sounds like a Fleet to Clapham off-peak return at gbp11.20 and a Clapham to Shepherds Bush off-peak return at gbp3 are the way forward. No idea why the through fare is so expensive tho'. -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
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On 4 Dec, 14:36, Mr Thant
wrote: But the £11.50 is super-off peak. The off-peak fare to CJ is £14.10, which fits with the £16 off-peak to SB. There doesn't seem to be a super off-peak fare to Shepherd's Bush, hence the anomaly. U I've checked. NRE is giving me no off peak or super off peak returns between Shepherds Bush and CJn, the £3 return is "anytime". For some reason it will give me an off peak to CJn + return to SB, but not a super off peak. Not sure why it should do one or not the other? I thought super off peak was the old cheap day return and the off peak was a new fare designed to make people pay more if they travel just after the morning peak - so I would have thought that Super Off Peaks would always be available. But obviously not. Thank you for the tip off on distances, it didn't look too bad on Google Maps. It might be better to get a travelcard anyway. |
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On 4 Dec, 14:51, John B wrote:
On Dec 4, 2:27*pm, wrote: Maps CS and WR cover the GWML route into London via Reading and Slough. They also allow you to travel via Hayes, Kensington Olympia and Clapham into Waterloo. Thx. I thought it might be valid on the WLL, I think I might have used my old season ticket to Olympia before, hadn't really realised that was where the validity ended. So it sounds like a Fleet to Clapham off-peak return at gbp11.20 and a Clapham to Shepherds Bush off-peak return at gbp3 are the way forward. I'm on a Network card so it will be a £16 return or a travelcard. No idea why the through fare is so expensive tho'. It looks like there are now only TfL fares on that route, not NR ones, and you can't combine them with a super off peak. So for some reason it seems you can book "anytime return to CJ + anytime return from CJ to SB" or "off peak return to CJ + anytime return from CJ to SB" but not "super off peak return to CJ + anytime return from CJ to SB". The NRE website doesn't give the London Stations fare for Olympia either. Oh how I miss my season ticket, it was all much easier then! (Especially now you can use Oyster on the WLL) |
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On 4 Dec, 14:36, Mr Thant
wrote: But the £11.50 is super-off peak. The off-peak fare to CJ is £14.10, which fits with the £16 off-peak to SB. There doesn't seem to be a super off-peak fare to Shepherd's Bush, hence the anomaly. A similar one exists for MKC-BHM, which I'm led to believe will be corrected in January. In the meantime, if you want a weekend day return for that route, a Super Off-Peak Return from MKC to Stafford is what you want, as it's 4 quid cheaper than the CDR to Brum. Neil |
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John B wrote: On Dec 4, 2:27*pm, wrote: So what is the cheapest fare? *Or can I rely on a Fleet to London Stations ticket? If you have a Fleet to London Terminals season ticket this will cover you to Clapham Junction. *Not sure about the last bit, would probably say yes but I am sure one of our routing guide experts will be along to comment shortly! *waves*. Fleet to London Terminals tickets are routed by maps CS and WR, or by map WX. Map WX covers Fleet to Clapham Junction (it's basically the SWT map), but not beyond - it only gets you into Waterloo or Victoria. Maps CS and WR cover the GWML route into London via Reading and Slough. They also allow you to travel via Hayes, Kensington Olympia and Clapham into Waterloo. If you were to go this way, and catch one of the occasional XC services that takes the route, then this'd get you as far as Olympia... however, you'd still have to pay gbp3 for the return Olympia-Shepherds Bush fare, as well as taking a ridiculous route. So it sounds like a Fleet to Clapham off-peak return at gbp11.20 and a Clapham to Shepherds Bush off-peak return at gbp3 are the way forward. No idea why the through fare is so expensive tho'. Why bother, go to Waterloo then Bakerloo/Northern line (to taste) and then Central Line to White City which is right opposite TV Centre. Shepherds Bush is right the other end of Shepherds Bush Green and, frankly, I wouldn't fancy walking back there from TVC after dark. -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html |
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"Graeme Wall" wrote in message ... In message John B wrote: On Dec 4, 2:27 pm, wrote: So what is the cheapest fare? Or can I rely on a Fleet to London Stations ticket? If you have a Fleet to London Terminals season ticket this will cover you to Clapham Junction. Not sure about the last bit, would probably say yes but I am sure one of our routing guide experts will be along to comment shortly! *waves*. Fleet to London Terminals tickets are routed by maps CS and WR, or by map WX. Map WX covers Fleet to Clapham Junction (it's basically the SWT map), but not beyond - it only gets you into Waterloo or Victoria. Maps CS and WR cover the GWML route into London via Reading and Slough. They also allow you to travel via Hayes, Kensington Olympia and Clapham into Waterloo. If you were to go this way, and catch one of the occasional XC services that takes the route, then this'd get you as far as Olympia... however, you'd still have to pay gbp3 for the return Olympia-Shepherds Bush fare, as well as taking a ridiculous route. So it sounds like a Fleet to Clapham off-peak return at gbp11.20 and a Clapham to Shepherds Bush off-peak return at gbp3 are the way forward. No idea why the through fare is so expensive tho'. Why bother, go to Waterloo then Bakerloo/Northern line (to taste) and then Central Line to White City which is right opposite TV Centre. Shepherds Bush is right the other end of Shepherds Bush Green and, frankly, I wouldn't fancy walking back there from TVC after dark. -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html It's counter intuitive but how about Waterloo, Bakerloo or Jubilee to Baker St then Hammersmith and City to the new station that I can't remember the name of? Wood Lane, that's the one. Or... Vauxhall, Victoria Line to Victoria, District to Hammersmith H and C to Wood Lane? |
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"Graham Harrison" wrote: "Graeme Wall" wrote in message ... [snip] Why bother, go to Waterloo then Bakerloo/Northern line (to taste) and then Central Line to White City which is right opposite TV Centre. Shepherds Bush is right the other end of Shepherds Bush Green and, frankly, I wouldn't fancy walking back there from TVC after dark. -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html It's counter intuitive but how about Waterloo, Bakerloo or Jubilee to Baker St then Hammersmith and City to the new station that I can't remember the name of? Wood Lane, that's the one. Or... Vauxhall, Victoria Line to Victoria, District to Hammersmith H and C to Wood Lane? That has you trying to cross Hammersmith Broadway which can be interesting, in the Chinese sense. Still the most logical place is White City especially if the weather is bad. -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html |
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It's a fair old walk, although I guess you could go through Westfield
on the way (or you can walk along the south side of it without venturing in). But I'd get the tube from SB to WC. Fair old walk from Shephard's Bush to White City? You can walk it faster than getting the Central line to go one stop. |
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On 4 Dec, 18:45, "dB" wrote: It's a fair old walk, although I guess you could go through Westfield on the way (or you can walk along the south side of it without venturing in). But I'd get the tube from SB to WC. Fair old walk from Shephard's Bush to White City? You can walk it faster than getting the Central line to go one stop. My thoughts exactly. |
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On 4 Dec, 14:51, John B wrote: (snip) So it sounds like a Fleet to Clapham off-peak return at gbp11.20 and a Clapham to Shepherds Bush off-peak return at gbp3 are the way forward. No idea why the through fare is so expensive tho'. Oyster PAYG is valid on the WLL, so should the OP have an Oyster card they could use that at a cost of £1 each way so £2 overall. |
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On 4 Dec, 16:33, Graeme Wall wrote: (snip) Why bother, go to Waterloo then Bakerloo/Northern line (to taste) and then Central Line to White City which is right opposite TV Centre. *Shepherds Bush is right the other end of Shepherds Bush Green and, frankly, I wouldn't fancy walking back there from TVC after dark. And frankly I wouldn't worry about that. Anyway, apart from anything else, Westfield is now open until 10pm weekdays so there's lots of people around, and as Mr Thant says you can actually walk through the shopping centre if you want. |
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On 4 Dec, 16:52, "Graham Harrison"
wrote: "Graeme Wall" wrote in message Why bother, go to Waterloo then Bakerloo/Northern line (to taste) and then Central Line to White City which is right opposite TV Centre. *Shepherds Bush is right the other end of Shepherds Bush Green and, frankly, I wouldn't fancy walking back there from TVC after dark. -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html It's counter intuitive but how about Waterloo, Bakerloo or Jubilee to Baker St then Hammersmith and City to the new station that I can't remember the name of? Wood Lane, that's the one. I didn't know they had built a new station... six months not working in London and it seems I'm out of touch already. Thanks for all the more or less convoluted ways of getting there by tube, but Fleet-CJn-Shepherds Bush has the benefit of being only one change and fairly direct. And as I am meeting friends at 5.45 the WLL from CJn should have the benefit of being relatively quiet. The walk should be no more than a mile, via major roads I don't see why that should be a problem. Besides I don't think I've ever been north of Olympia on the WLL. I was trying to save the cost of a travelcard - but without the Super Off Peak option it isn't worth it. But often, if I'm only likely to be catching one tube, or using the bus, I go for London Stations ticket + use of Oyster. |
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On 5 Dec, 00:39, wrote: On 4 Dec, 16:52, "Graham Harrison" wrote: "Graeme Wall" wrote in message Why bother, go to Waterloo then Bakerloo/Northern line (to taste) and then Central Line to White City which is right opposite TV Centre.. Shepherds Bush is right the other end of Shepherds Bush Green and, frankly, I wouldn't fancy walking back there from TVC after dark. It's counter intuitive but how about Waterloo, Bakerloo or Jubilee to Baker St then Hammersmith and City to the new station that I can't remember the name of? Wood Lane, that's the one. I didn't know they had built a new station... six months not working in London and it seems I'm out of touch already. Both the new stations at Wood Lane on the H&C and Shepherd's Bush on the WLL have been built in connection with, and at least partially financed by, Westfield - i.e. the bods who built, own and run the mamoth new shopping centre there. Thanks for all the more or less convoluted ways of getting there by tube, but Fleet-CJn-Shepherds Bush has the benefit of being only one change and fairly direct. And as I am meeting friends at 5.45 the WLL from CJn should have the benefit of being relatively quiet. * The walk should be no more than a mile, via major roads I don't see why that should be a problem. The WLL is pretty busy these days, though more so in the southbound direction - travelling at 5.45 in the opposite direction definitely couldn't be described as being relatively quiet! Besides I don't think I've ever been north of Olympia on the WLL. I was trying to save the cost of a travelcard - but without the Super Off Peak option it isn't worth it. *But often, if I'm only likely to be catching one tube, or using the bus, I go for London Stations ticket + use of Oyster. As I state elsewhere on this thread, Oyster PAYG is valid for use on the WLL these dfays - and that includes from Clapham Junction. Here's a map of the National Rail routes on which PAYG is currently valid (PDF): http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...onal-rail..pdf |
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As I state elsewhere on this thread, Oyster PAYG is valid for use on the WLL these dfays - and that includes from Clapham Junction. Yes I know, but on this occasion it will be better value to get a through ticket or a travelcard. At the weekend, when the Network Card cap doesn't apply, it may very well be best to buy a return to CJn and then use Oyster. Although one problem with Oyster is that it doesn't allow for change of mode on one fare. So a journey involving two buses, or a bus and tube, or maybe here - if it's raining I might want to get the Tube to Shepherds Bush and then WLL - you get charged twice, more than if you took a journey of equivalent length on the Tube, even changing lines. Many European transport systems allow you to change mode on a single ticket, within a certain amount of time - and I think Oyster should be programmed to do this. |
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On 5 Dec, 09:27, wrote:
if it's raining I might want to get the Tube to Shepherds Bush and then WLL - you get charged twice, more than if you took a journey of equivalent length on the Tube, even changing lines. No you don't. Oyster PAYG fares are based on the start and end points of your journey. If you change trains at a recognised interchange, even if you have to go through barriers or out onto the street, it counts as a continuation of the same journey. In other words, in your scenario, the second leg is free. U |
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On 5 Dec, 13:35, Mr Thant
wrote: On 5 Dec, 09:27, wrote: if it's raining I might want to get the Tube to Shepherds Bush and then WLL - you get charged twice, more than if you took a journey of equivalent length on the Tube, even changing lines. No you don't. Oyster PAYG fares are based on the start and end points of your journey. If you change trains at a recognised interchange, even if you have to go through barriers or out onto the street, it counts as a continuation of the same journey. In other words, in your scenario, the second leg is free. So changing between the Tube and the WLL at SB doesn't count as changing mode? If I travel from, say, St Paul's to Waterloo via Holborn changing onto a bus from Kingsway, surely I pay £2.50, £1.50 for the Tube and £1.00 for the bus. If I do the same journey by going on as far as Tottenham Court Road and get the Northern line it only costs me £1.50. My point was that you should be able to do the first journey for the same price as the second - I don't think you can. |
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On Dec 5, 1:52*pm, wrote:
if it's raining I might want to get the Tube to Shepherds Bush and then WLL - you get charged twice, more than if you took a journey of equivalent length on the Tube, even changing lines. No you don't. Oyster PAYG fares are based on the start and end points of your journey. If you change trains at a recognised interchange, even if you have to go through barriers or out onto the street, it counts as a continuation of the same journey. In other words, in your scenario, the second leg is free. So changing between the Tube and the WLL at SB doesn't count as changing mode? If I travel from, say, St Paul's to Waterloo via Holborn changing onto a bus from Kingsway, surely I pay £2.50, £1.50 for the Tube and £1.00 for the bus. *If I do the same journey by going on as far as Tottenham Court Road and get the Northern line it only costs me £1.50. *My point was that you should be able to do the first journey for the same price as the second - I don't think you can. PAYG on the Overground (and on other NR lines where Oyster is accepted) is treated the same as PAYG on the tube, and hence a journey that involves both is only considered as one journey. I think this is true for the DLR as well. Buses are different. $deity knows why, although my guess would be technical implementation reasons rather than an ideological dislike of mixed-mode bus-rail journey. -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
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PAYG on the Overground (and on other NR lines where Oyster is
accepted) is treated the same as PAYG on the tube, and hence a journey that involves both is only considered as one journey. I think this is true for the DLR as well. Buses are different. $deity knows why, although my guess would be technical implementation reasons rather than an ideological dislike of mixed-mode bus-rail journey. I looked this up on the TfL website and it seems to be true. I have to admit I didn't realise. Probably because I have only got my Oyster since moving out of London, and my trips to London are now generally confined more to the centre for both business and pleasure - so I am less likely to use Overground services. On top of which there have been a lot of changes in the last year or so. I know in the past I have avoided using DLR because I thought I would be charged extra, but then the stations are close together and I often like to walk anyway. I suppose buses are different because there is no "end" checkout. But they could easily bring in a rule whereby if you used a bus within, say 30 minutes of the start of a recently completed Tube journey, you wouldn't be charged. |
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 06:28:46 -0800 (PST), John B
wrote: Buses are different. $deity knows why, although my guess would be technical implementation reasons rather than an ideological dislike of mixed-mode bus-rail journey. Even between buses it doesn't give a discount, though. Surely it would be logical to allow a second free touch-in on a bus if the previous one was less than, say, an hour ago? That can't be hard to implement. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. |
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:23:25 -0000, "Paul Scott"
wrote: wrote: PAYG on the Overground (and on other NR lines where Oyster is accepted) is treated the same as PAYG on the tube, and hence a journey that involves both is only considered as one journey. I think this is true for the DLR as well. Buses are different. $deity knows why, although my guess would be technical implementation reasons rather than an ideological dislike of mixed-mode bus-rail journey. I looked this up on the TfL website and it seems to be true. I have to admit I didn't realise. It is valid for any pair of LU/LO/DLR/NR stations where the gates are programmed for 'out of station interchange', or OSIs, however the list of OSIs is not formally published. Station pairs explicitly linked on the latest tube map, eg White City/Wood Lane, or Shepherds Bush LU/LO are OSIs; as are implicit pairs like the two Hammersmiths. However it is incorrect to assume all journeys involving a short walk outside the barriers will be linked, but hopefully you have the picture now. The current list of OSIs has been compiled by London Reconnections and verified by TfL. http://londonreconnections.blogspot....s-current.html -- Paul C |
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On Dec 5, 8:57*am, Mizter T wrote:
On 5 Dec, 00:39, wrote: On 4 Dec, 16:52, "Graham Harrison" wrote: "Graeme Wall" wrote in message Why bother, go to Waterloo then Bakerloo/Northern line (to taste) and then Central Line to White City which is right opposite TV Centre. Shepherds Bush is right the other end of Shepherds Bush Green and, frankly, I wouldn't fancy walking back there from TVC after dark. It's counter intuitive but how about Waterloo, Bakerloo or Jubilee to Baker St then Hammersmith and City to the new station that I can't remember the name of? Wood Lane, that's the one. I didn't know they had built a new station... six months not working in London and it seems I'm out of touch already. Both the new stations at Wood Lane on the H&C and Shepherd's Bush on the WLL have been built in connection with, and at least partially financed by, Westfield - i.e. the bods who built, own and run the mamoth new shopping centre there. From what I've seen, people pour out of the WLL and head not for Westfield but directly into the Central Line (as I did when I was last that way); a bleedin obvious interchange need that waited for an irrelevant commercial development to pay for it. |
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But surely all you would need to do is to set other fares to compensate? IMO this should have been factored in when they designed the system: it's what most European systems do, and you can still get transfare tickets in Newcastle, for example. In any case, I am sure a lot of people will be making decisions based on the cost. If travelling on the journey I gave as an example, I would currently change at TCR for the Northern Line. If I could use the bus for free, I would change at Holborn for a bus as I usually reckon this is quicker. So no additional usage. |
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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:01:52 +0000, Paul Corfield
wrote: It might be logical but it would also cost a great deal of money in terms of lost revenue. Hong Kong operators have used service cuts to remove through services where a bus to bus interchange can be put in place to give little or no financial penalty from changing buses. Then perhaps the normal single fare should rise to cover it. It is to me highly unfair that someone who has to use two buses because TfL don't provide a direct one[1] are penalised over someone who might make a very long direct journey. I suppose the cap almost deals with it for someone doing a return journey, but for a single journey it to me[2] isn't right. [1] Not that they should. But there are odd gaps in the network, e.g. nothing from Euston to the Blackfriars area without a change. The change at Kings Cross is probably the best way to serve the market, but the added cost is unfair. [2] Not me directly, as I have an outboundary Travelcard season. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. |
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In article , () wrote: It looks like there are now only TfL fares on that route, not NR ones, and you can't combine them with a super off peak. So for some reason it seems you can book "anytime return to CJ + anytime return from CJ to SB" or "off peak return to CJ + anytime return from CJ to SB" but not "super off peak return to CJ + anytime return from CJ to SB". The NRE website doesn't give the London Stations fare for Olympia either. More collapsing fare integration inside and outside of London! Given how much we outside London pay to subsidise TfL and NR services in London it's a scandal! The previous poster was wrong Colin, Anytime and Offpeak through fares are available as per normal, it is only the SWT specific SOP that isn't. Paul S |
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In article ,
(Paul Scott) wrote: wrote: In article , () wrote: It looks like there are now only TfL fares on that route, not NR ones, and you can't combine them with a super off peak. So for some reason it seems you can book "anytime return to CJ + anytime return from CJ to SB" or "off peak return to CJ + anytime return from CJ to SB" but not "super off peak return to CJ + anytime return from CJ to SB". The NRE website doesn't give the London Stations fare for Olympia either. More collapsing fare integration inside and outside of London! Given how much we outside London pay to subsidise TfL and NR services in London it's a scandal! The previous poster was wrong Colin, Anytime and Offpeak through fares are available as per normal, it is only the SWT specific SOP that isn't. Doesn't alter my complaint, that once you cross TOC boundaries, fare integration goes pear shaped. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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(Paul Scott) wrote: wrote: King's Cross St. Pancras Met LU King's Cross St. Pancras Tube LU 30 and vice-versa are still in there. Surely they are no longer OSIs since the Met station was reconfigured with the Western ticket hall? Probably makes sense to leave them as OSIs for the benefit of the few irregular travellers who remember having to pass through the gatelines at KX to get to/from Met/Circle to/from 'tube' and fail to notice the new signs or routes. Doesn't cause any harm anyway AFAICT... 'spose so. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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