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![]() On 21 Dec, 11:40, wrote: On 21 Dec, 01:35, Mizter T wrote: On 20 Dec, 22:25, Larry wrote: Well, I was afraid you'd ask that. I'm not supporting Chelsea. Yet, for my sake, I won't be wearing any colours at all! So you won't be wearing your zebra colours then? Fx: sound of penny dropping! Chelsea vs Juventus, Champions League, Feb 25th, 19:45. * Enjoy the match. I should have been a bit more cryptic and just said "No zebras then?" ! The draw for this round of the Champion's League was on Friday so given the timing of the OP's question this has to be the game he's planning on heading to. (Well, probably!) |
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, Mizter T wrote: So you won't be wearing your zebra colours then? I will, deep down. Yet, I won't look like a zebra! |
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, sweek wrote: I'd even consider just walking from Stamford Bridge to Earl's Court to avoid the District altogether. How long does it take? |
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On 21 Dec, 11:46, wrote:
That was why I advised taking the first train to Edgware Road and changing there if it is a Hammersmith and City. The Piccadilly is much slower and the time taken to get down to deep level and back can't be ignored either. If the Piccadilly is much slower, than why does TfL recommend this route? King's Cross St. Pancras to Fulham Broadway is 26 minutes via the Piccadilly and a change at Earl's Court vs. around 31 minutes for the District/Circle route. Plus the potentially much longer wait for the 6 tph between Edgware Road and Wimbledon vs. 24 trains per hour on the Piccadilly and at least 12 tph on the last bit of the District from Earl's Court. Every day I have the choice of taking either the District line or the Northern Line + NR for my commute, and every time I've gone for the District I've regretted it. It's just so horribly slow, infrequent and prone to delays. I'd even consider just walking from Stamford Bridge to Earl's Court to avoid the District altogether. I've used the District, especially the Wimbledon branch, all my life. I just don't agree with your assessment. In my case it's also the Wimbledon branch to Parsons Green or Putney Bridge, but I prefer national rail from Wandsworth Town by far. |
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![]() wrote in message ... In article , (Larry) wrote: In article , sweek wrote: I'd even consider just walking from Stamford Bridge to Earl's Court to avoid the District altogether. How long does it take? 29 minute according to the TfL Journey Planner. It also says t=it takes 12-14 minutes via Fulham Broadway and the District Line. Only someone with a very warped view would take the walking option for preference. Walking to Earls Court is a sensible alternative if the match has just finished. It is less than a mile so will take about 20 minutes. With 40000 people all trying to get onto the tube it could take 20 minutes just to get onto a train at Fulham Broadway. Peter Smyth |
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![]() On 21 Dec, 21:14, wrote: In article , (Larry) wrote: In article , *sweek wrote: I'd even consider just walking from Stamford Bridge to Earl's Court to avoid the District altogether. How long does it take? 29 minute according to the TfL Journey Planner. It also says it takes 12-14 minutes via Fulham Broadway and the District Line. Only someone with a very warped view would take the walking option for preference. I do hope you're not suggesting people who choose walking over being conveyed all have a very warped view?! In this particular instance, I agree with you in that in the case of the OP, Larry, it would probably be best for him to use the District line and get off at Fulham Broadway - so if he was going via the Piccadilly line then he should simply change at Earl's Court on to a District line train heading for Wimbledon. Apart from anything else, if there were to any problems on the District line that evening which were causing delays, then on a match day there is a considerable impetus to London Underground in getting thousands of fans to their destination - in other words maintaining a good service on the Wimbledon branch of the District line would become a priority. So I wouldn't regard that as a problem at all (and by the by I've never actually had any massive issues with the Wimbledon branch either). However the idea that walking between Earl's Court and the Stamford Bridge ground is some sort of mammoth feat needs to be dispelled - walking it is not really that daft an idea, and is hardly impossible! Here is a map showing the are in question (Earl's Court Underground station being at the top): http://www.streetmap.co.uk/oldmap.sr...&y=177750&ar=N One thing you must bear in mind from the outset is that the TfL planner defaults to assuming that people walk at a slug's pace. The TfL planner estimates that it will take 22 at a fast pace, 29 at an average pace (the number you quoted) and 42 mins to walk it at a slow pace. This is wonky. Instead check out the timings that the 'walk it' planner gives for the same walking route - 14 mins fast, 19 mins medium, 29 mins slow. As you can see there's a significant disparity between the times given by those two planners. 'walk it' - http://www.walkit.com/london I'm not entirely sure how fast I walk, to be honest, though of course it varies between quick step and a more sedate pace - I've only used TfL's planner to plan a walking route a handful of times (if that) but the 'fast pace' setting seemed to be broadly in the right ball park, to borrow a phrase. Actually I'll endeavour to try and test out their timing estimates - problem being that I normally just use an A-Z and have some appreciation of the scale so don't bother with all this online route planning malarkey. Anyway - you say 12-14 mins for District line from Earl's Court to Fulham Broadway then walk to Stamford Bridge though I've just got 11 mins! - perhaps it depends what time of day you input), so a 14 minute fast paced walk or 19 minute medium paced one compares quite well with that! A few other thoughts... The walking route is actually takes in some pretty busy roads so is perhaps not the best introduction to London for a first time visitor - that said the houses down Finborough Road and Ifield Road (and indeed Redcliffe Gardens should one go that way) are still rather splendid despite this (it's not like there's a massive highway en-route or something). Actually one can even take a small diversion and walk through Brompton Cemetary when it's open, which it won't be at this time in the evening! All in all though I think my advice to Larry would be to follow the crowds and take Underground to Fulham Broadway. |
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![]() On 21 Dec, 21:59, "Peter Smyth" wrote: wrote: In article , (Larry) wrote: In article , *sweek wrote: I'd even consider just walking from Stamford Bridge to Earl's Court to avoid the District altogether. How long does it take? 29 minute according to the TfL Journey Planner. It also says it takes 12-14 minutes via Fulham Broadway and the District Line. Only someone with a very warped view would take the walking option for preference. Walking to Earls Court is a sensible alternative if the match has just finished. It is less than a mile so will take about 20 minutes. With 40000 people all trying to get onto the tube it could take 20 minutes just to get onto a train at Fulham Broadway. Having just posted a long response to Colin's "warped view" comments in which I end up recommending him to keep it simple and go via Fulham Broadway, you come out with this and make me realise that I'd totally failed to take that into account! You're quite right - on the way back after the match walking to Earl's Court is likely to be a good option as opposed to waiting in the queue to get in to Fulham Broadway station and on to a train, and it'll be a particularly good option if going back via the Piccadilly line from Earl's Court. I suppose in the case of the OP that needs to be offset with his unfamiliarity with the area, especially if he didn't walk this way on the way to the match, and with how adventurous he might be feeling. I can see that, despite the wait, the 'keep-it-easy' option of going via Fulham Broadway station has its attractions. |
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