Anyone else notice the north London traffic has suddenly become the same as
before the congestion charge was introduced?

So has Ken reversed the traffic light settings to start his new £10 charge
scheme?

daveF

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Anyone else notice the north London traffic has suddenly become the same as
before the congestion charge was introduced?

The North Circ never did get any better, and in fact the roads round the
edge of the congestion area will inevitably get busier. I know several
people who now drive miles out of their way to avoid the congestion
charge. All Ken did was empty Westminster and push more traffic onto the
rat runs.


So has Ken reversed the traffic light settings to start his new £10 charge
scheme?

Lets face it the congestion charge was always about Ken raising revenue
for his pets schemes. Now the current scheme isn't giving him enough
money of course he'll look at either raising the charge, or extending
the area covered. He won't be happy until it covers the inside of the
M25 !

Did I mention you can vote the ******* out of office in 2004 ?? :-)

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Edward Cowling London UK

"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in
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Lets face it the congestion charge was always about Ken raising
revenue
for his pets schemes.

His pets schemes? You mean the newts came up with the ideas? :-)))

Now the current scheme isn't giving him enough
money of course he'll look at either raising the charge, or
extending
the area covered. He won't be happy until it covers the inside of
the
M25 !

Did I mention you can vote the ******* out of office in 2004 ?? :-)

But in favour of whom? Someone who parrots central government party
political dogma rather than *trying* (successfully or otherwise) to do
something for London

"Stimpy" wrote:

"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in
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Did I mention you can vote the ******* out of office in 2004 ?? :-)

But in favour of whom? Someone who parrots central government party
political dogma rather than *trying* (successfully or otherwise) to do
something for London

And what was actually in his manifesto...

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James Farrar |
London, SE13 |

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"Stimpy" wrote:

"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in
message ...

Did I mention you can vote the ******* out of office in 2004 ?? :-)

But in favour of whom? Someone who parrots central government party
political dogma rather than *trying* (successfully or otherwise) to do
something for London

And what was actually in his manifesto...

Yeah how bloody sneaky is that eh ??

What politician has EVER done anything in his/her manifesto. It's like
announcing it on Channel 5 :-)

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Edward Cowling London UK

Edward Cowling London UK wrote:
In message ,
James Farrar writes
"Stimpy" wrote:

"Edward Cowling London UK"
wrote in message
...

Did I mention you can vote the ******* out of office in
2004 ?? :-)

But in favour of whom? Someone who parrots central
government party political dogma rather than *trying*
(successfully or otherwise) to do something for London

And what was actually in his manifesto...

Yeah how bloody sneaky is that eh ??

What politician has EVER done anything in his/her
manifesto. It's like announcing it on Channel 5 :-)

Don't panic - Livingstone is an odball, it'll never catch on. :-))

"James Farrar" wrote in message
...
"Stimpy" wrote:

"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in
message ...

Did I mention you can vote the ******* out of office in 2004 ??
:-)

But in favour of whom? Someone who parrots central government
party
political dogma rather than *trying* (successfully or otherwise) to
do
something for London

And what was actually in his manifesto...

Too bloody right! He might have his failings but at least KL is a
Londoner who loves London and has a history of working for Londoners.
Of course, he's got some things wrong but at least his head and heart
are in the right place.

What's the realistic alternative? A mainstream career party
politician who sees the London Mayorship as a short-term stepping
stone on his way up the ladder? The day the London Mayor role becomes
just another rung on the Westminster ladder is the day it becomes
worthless.

In message , Stimpy
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And what was actually in his manifesto...

Too bloody right! He might have his failings but at least KL is a
Londoner who loves London and has a history of working for Londoners.
Of course, he's got some things wrong but at least his head and heart
are in the right place.

Oh dear someone else has fallen for the con trick. Ken cares about Ken.
He is a self seeking loner who would sell his granny to get a bit more
power. Did you learn nothing from his back stabbing days at the GLC ?


What's the realistic alternative? A mainstream career party
politician who sees the London Mayorship as a short-term stepping
stone on his way up the ladder? The day the London Mayor role becomes
just another rung on the Westminster ladder is the day it becomes
worthless.


It is worthless ! Apart from annoying a few pigeons in Trafalgar square
and stopping Ken from doing any real damage the role is fairly
pointless. Mainly because the guy is an independent. We should have a
head of the GLA elected by members. Then give the role a few teeth and a
decent budget, so they don't have to resort to highway robbery.

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Edward Cowling London UK

Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was Stimpy ),
in message who said:
"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in
message ...

Lets face it the congestion charge was always about Ken raising
revenue for his pets schemes.

His pets schemes? You mean the newts came up with the ideas? :-)))

Now the current scheme isn't giving him enough
money of course he'll look at either raising the charge, or extending
the area covered. He won't be happy until it covers the inside of the
M25 !

Did I mention you can vote the ******* out of office in 2004 ?? :-)

But in favour of whom? Someone who parrots central government party
political dogma rather than *trying* (successfully or otherwise) to do
something for London


Hmm... central government... you do realise that the Labour mayoral
candidate will probably come fourth?

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Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was Stimpy ),
in message who said:
"James Farrar" wrote in message
...
"Stimpy" wrote:

"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in
message ...

Did I mention you can vote the ******* out of office in 2004 ?? :-)

But in favour of whom? Someone who parrots central government party
political dogma rather than *trying* (successfully or otherwise) to
do something for London

And what was actually in his manifesto...

Too bloody right! He might have his failings but at least KL is a
Londoner who loves London and has a history of working for Londoners.


I'm a Londoner who has lived through Ken's GLC and his recent sequel.

It would be interesting to hear about all this historical work that he has
done for me.


Of course, he's got some things wrong but at least his head and heart
are in the right place.


Depends if you think 'the left' is the right place or not, doesn't it? And
personally I do not.


What's the realistic alternative? A mainstream career party
politician who sees the London Mayorship as a short-term stepping
stone on his way up the ladder? The day the London Mayor role becomes
just another rung on the Westminster ladder is the day it becomes
worthless.


Oh please. Very few politicians are as careerist as Ken Livingstone.
Couldn't get anywhere within the Labour party, so switched to a supposedly
independent ticket, while all the time supporting his buddies on the left of
the party.

He has ruthlessly and cynically capitalised on Londoner's stupidity,
gluttony for punishment, and short memories. I reckon we don't need a mayor
OR a GLA, and there's way way too many tiers of government as it is, all of
it at a price.

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