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Piccadilly Turnham Green
I was on a late night Piccadilly Line train which stopped at Turnham
Green the other, er, night. I've often wondered, what's the story behind that oddity? How did it come to be a feature of the timetable? (I can think of no parallel elsewhere on the system, at least not in even remotely recent years.) -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
Piccadilly Turnham Green
Ian Jelf wrote:
I was on a late night Piccadilly Line train which stopped at Turnham Green the other, er, night. I've often wondered, what's the story behind that oddity? How did it come to be a feature of the timetable? (I can think of no parallel elsewhere on the system, at least not in even remotely recent years.) Late Met trains stopped at Willesden Green and Neasden not too long ago.... I think that has stopped now. |
Piccadilly Turnham Green
In message , Ian Jelf
writes I was on a late night Piccadilly Line train which stopped at Turnham Green the other, er, night. I've often wondered, what's the story behind that oddity? How did it come to be a feature of the timetable? (I can think of no parallel elsewhere on the system, at least not in even remotely recent years.) I think the practice started in the early 60s, when District services west of London were being cut back. Offering an interchange at Turnham Green provided greater flexibility, but the additional stop was too disruptive to the fast-running section of the Piccadilly line to be offered during the main part of the Monday-Friday timetable. There was a time in the 70s when the hours of the Turnham Green stoppers were extended, but they were cut back again due to little usage. In recent years, there has been much local demand (and a petition) to get the Piccadilly to stop there throughout the day, but LU has maintained the position that it would reduce the capacity of the line, at least until signalling is improved. -- Paul Terry |
Piccadilly Turnham Green
"Ian Jelf" wrote
I was on a late night Piccadilly Line train which stopped at Turnham Green the other, er, night. I've often wondered, what's the story behind that oddity? How did it come to be a feature of the timetable? (I can think of no parallel elsewhere on the system, at least not in even remotely recent years.) I've always liked to imagine that they have adjustable colour-coded signs there. When the sparse service of Piccadilly Line trains is due, they change them to blue. When the last Piccadilly train has gone, they turn'em green. Sorry. I'll go now. |
Piccadilly Turnham Green
On Apr 14, 9:02*am, Ian Jelf wrote:
I was on a late night Piccadilly Line train which stopped at Turnham Green the other, er, night. I've often wondered, what's the story behind that oddity? * How did it come to be a feature of the timetable? * (I can think of no parallel elsewhere on the system, at least not in even remotely recent years.) -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of Englandhttp://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk Actually, I think it's very common for the faster or longer distance trains to make additional stops Sundays and evenings. Often, it coincides with a lack of local services and/or some stations closed, leaving only the longer distance trains to call at the remaining stations. For example, trains from Liverpool Street to Southend call at Gidea Park, Harold Wood and Brentwood on Sundays, trains from Charing Cross to Ramsgate and Margate call at Orpington and Sevenoaks on Sundays etc etc. |
Piccadilly Turnham Green
On Apr 14, 4:22*pm, MIG wrote:
On Apr 14, 9:02*am, Ian Jelf wrote: I was on a late night Piccadilly Line train which stopped at Turnham Green the other, er, night. I've often wondered, what's the story behind that oddity? * How did it come to be a feature of the timetable? * (I can think of no parallel elsewhere on the system, at least not in even remotely recent years.) -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of Englandhttp://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk Actually, I think it's very common for the faster or longer distance trains to make additional stops Sundays and evenings. Often, it coincides with a lack of local services and/or some stations closed, leaving only the longer distance trains to call at the remaining stations. For example, trains from Liverpool Street to Southend call at Gidea Park, Harold Wood and Brentwood on Sundays, trains from Charing Cross to Ramsgate and Margate call at Orpington and Sevenoaks on Sundays etc etc. Or keeping it to LU, there used to be slow Amershams on Sundays only, and still extra stops at Wembley Park on Sundays I think. |
Piccadilly Turnham Green
"MIG" wrote in message ... On Apr 14, 4:22 pm, MIG wrote: On Apr 14, 9:02 am, Ian Jelf wrote: I was on a late night Piccadilly Line train which stopped at Turnham Green the other, er, night. I've often wondered, what's the story behind that oddity? How did it come to be a feature of the timetable? (I can think of no parallel elsewhere on the system, at least not in even remotely recent years.) -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of Englandhttp://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk Actually, I think it's very common for the faster or longer distance trains to make additional stops Sundays and evenings. Often, it coincides with a lack of local services and/or some stations closed, leaving only the longer distance trains to call at the remaining stations. For example, trains from Liverpool Street to Southend call at Gidea Park, Harold Wood and Brentwood on Sundays, trains from Charing Cross to Ramsgate and Margate call at Orpington and Sevenoaks on Sundays etc etc. Or keeping it to LU, there used to be slow Amershams on Sundays only, and still extra stops at Wembley Park on Sundays I think. Never heard of a slow Amersham train they must of taken a while. |
Piccadilly Turnham Green
"Paul Terry" wrote in message ... In message , Ian Jelf writes I was on a late night Piccadilly Line train which stopped at Turnham Green the other, er, night. I've often wondered, what's the story behind that oddity? How did it come to be a feature of the timetable? (I can think of no parallel elsewhere on the system, at least not in even remotely recent years.) I think the practice started in the early 60s, when District services west of London were being cut back. Offering an interchange at Turnham Green provided greater flexibility, but the additional stop was too disruptive to the fast-running section of the Piccadilly line to be offered during the main part of the Monday-Friday timetable. As you say it allows connection into the District trains to/from Richmond when the Ealin services are less frequent. But IME, the evening service starts much later than it needs to without disrupting the service. It could easily start an hour earlier and none of the Picc pax would be disrupted. tim |
Piccadilly Turnham Green
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, John Salmon wrote:
"Ian Jelf" wrote I was on a late night Piccadilly Line train which stopped at Turnham Green the other, er, night. I've often wondered, what's the story behind that oddity? How did it come to be a feature of the timetable? (I can think of no parallel elsewhere on the system, at least not in even remotely recent years.) I've always liked to imagine that they have adjustable colour-coded signs there. When the sparse service of Piccadilly Line trains is due, they change them to blue. When the last Piccadilly train has gone, they turn'em green. Oh, i thought the whole point of having the Picc occasionally stop there was so that in the peaks, it can whizz right past the waiting commuters, inducing feelings of great envy, and thus turn 'em green. tom -- Teach us how to die well |
Piccadilly Turnham Green
Wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of Barons Court on the Picc and
replace it with Turnham Green? |
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