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"Chris Jones" typed


Look at a map of Germany, and compare it to a map of this country. They have
motorways all over the place, yet they still have plenty of countryside to
enjoy.

They have *much* greater area of land and a similar population though.

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Paul Weaver typed


On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:31:32 +0000, Chris Jones wrote:
Don't be silly, we're nowhere near that. I don't think the motorway
network
even takes up 1% of the land in this country, there's plenty of space for
more.

Motorways take about 50 square miles of the UK - 0.05% of the total land
area.

Then there are the access flyovers, interchanges, service areas, areas
inaccessible due to presence of motorways, roads that are motorways in
all but name and the area taken up is hugely increased...

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"Grant Crozier" wrote in message
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On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:26:39 -0000, "iantheengineer"
wrote:
Yuppies were synonimus with the 80's its a known FACT. FACT She sold off
all
of the national utilities,
Why did she sell them off because they where making a big loss the
only reason the private companies are now making a profits is because
they cut out all the loss making side of the businesses . Had any
government tried to do this it would have been "down tools we are out
on strike lads".
Had BA still been a nationalised company there would have been no BA
flights to anywhere out of Heathrow or any other UK airport due to
them cutting out the big loss making Concorde but because BA is now in
private hands employees are watching their steps .
All that MT
ever did was to lower taxes at the expense of everything else. If you
were
working all well and good but if you were not ( highest levels of
unemployment for years) then tough.
No you can place the blame at the feet of the trade unions for all the
unemployment not MT had MT not come down hard on the unions and their
leaders like that ******* Scargill there would have been double the
amount of unemployment. I would willingly go with out mail if the
Royal mail management where to sack all the useless striking employees
tonight .
Grant .

Okay heres an analogy fro you , you are a plumber, you need money, what do
you do

a) become more cost effective and deliver a service to increase business

b) Sell your toolkit so that you have a nice capital sum to keep the wife
happy this week, and then relaise that you have no source of income.

It seems to me that all of the privatised industries that were sold off were
making a loss at the time of sale, however they are now making a profit. Why
couldnt this have been done while they were nationalised???? While they wer
nationalised a dgeree of control on them could be exerted, now market forces
do similar but the government do not recieve the dividends, all those people
who were telling Sid are!

No instead MT boosted the coffers with the capital investment, gave everyone
tax breaks and gradually drove the country into the ground.

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"Grant Crozier" wrote in message
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On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 21:36:52 -0000, "Chris Jones"
wrote:
No matter how
bad things were with Ms Thatcher,
Did you say BAD I never had it so good things certainly went down hill
once Major moved into No 10 .
Grant .

Exactly YOU never had it so good in the short term!

What about all the other people???? Do you forget the miners strikes when
good ol MT decided to close all of the pits so we imported cheap coal from
Africa. Now most of the pits have closed Africas coal price has risen
dramatically, oh yeah she was an absolute genius! Any 5 year old could have
seen that coming

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"Robin May" wrote in message
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"Chris Jones" wrote the following
in:

If the North/South Circulars had been built properly as 3-4 lane
motorways, people living in London wouldn't need to use the M25 to
get from one part to another, and it would do what it was designed
for - cater for long-distance traffic.

The North Circular's not that bad. Apart from a few dodgy bits where it
gets very congested or narrows down to single carriageway, it's
generally alright.

Investment in public transport is whats required, something else MT ran into
the ground

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"Paul Weaver" wrote in message
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On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 22:48:45 +0000, Robin May wrote:

The North Circular's not that bad. Apart from a few dodgy bits where it
gets very congested or narrows down to single carriageway, it's
generally alright.

Traffic lights


?????

Traffic lights??????? Are you inferring thjat they are the cause of the
delay. If this is the case then yes I would agree traffic signals will
always cause delay, but they are better than priority and less expensive
than roundabouts to install. How much delay depends upon the designer and
the type of control, whether it is fixed or adaptive. All modern schemes are
adaptive, MOVA, micro proceesor optimized vehicle actuation is now the
standard method of control for isolated junctions

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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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iantheengineer wrote:

When labour came to power the country had no money.

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No not ******** FACT

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"Chris Jones" wrote in message
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Not crap the truth

Would you like to back that up with evidence? For example, does the fact
that Thatcher's government built large portions of the M40, M20 and M25,
as
well as several other major road projects, mean nothing to you?

Whereas the current government's refusal to build anything (except a toll
road) somehow paints them as a shining knight?





Building roads does not solve the problem, it helps locally but creates
problems elsewhere. Thats why we are where we arte today with huge
congestion.

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"Grant Crozier" wrote in message
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On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 17:57:59 -0000, "Chris Jones"
wrote:
Would you like to back that up with evidence? For example, does the fact
that Thatcher's government built large portions of the M40, M20 and M25,
as
well as several other major road projects, mean nothing to you?
Chris there are some people in this country who will never see one
ounce of good in Mrs Thatcher or in anything she did but to me she was
the best PM since Sir Winston. At least she had the guts to stand up
for the UK and its people when she went across to Brussels and with
her education being so advanced she did know how to say the word NO in
many different tongs if need be unlike Blair and his pack of bloody
war mungers and liars .
With a bit of luck in eighteen months time the UK will be governed by
a decent party with a man at the helm who knows what he is doing .
Whereas the current government's refusal to build anything (except a toll
road) somehow paints them as a shining knight?
What rubbish Chris what about all the new roads houses and god knows
what else the current government is providing and building in Iraqi
with OUR money for the people of Iraqi not to mention all the four
star accommodation that they are building for all the foreign guest's
that Blair and the blind beggar are welcoming into this country with
open arms .
My God if only we COULD have dear Maggie back in No10 .
Grant .


Oh my god she converted somone, live in the South par chance?????

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"Grant Crozier" wrote in message
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On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 17:57:59 -0000, "Chris Jones"
wrote:
Would you like to back that up with evidence? For example, does the fact
that Thatcher's government built large portions of the M40, M20 and M25,
as
well as several other major road projects, mean nothing to you?
Chris there are some people in this country who will never see one
ounce of good in Mrs Thatcher or in anything she did but to me she was
the best PM since Sir Winston. At least she had the guts to stand up
for the UK and its people when she went across to Brussels and with
her education being so advanced she did know how to say the word NO in
many different tongs if need be unlike Blair and his pack of bloody
war mungers and liars .
With a bit of luck in eighteen months time the UK will be governed by
a decent party with a man at the helm who knows what he is doing .
Whereas the current government's refusal to build anything (except a toll
road) somehow paints them as a shining knight?
What rubbish Chris what about all the new roads houses and god knows
what else the current government is providing and building in Iraqi
with OUR money for the people of Iraqi not to mention all the four
star accommodation that they are building for all the foreign guest's
that Blair and the blind beggar are welcoming into this country with
open arms .
My God if only we COULD have dear Maggie back in No10 .
Grant .


I enjoyed the irony of your email address. The people??? You are so removed
from the people you are in a seperate galaxy.