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"W K" wrote in message
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"Depresion" wrote in message
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There fair from my local station (when it reopens) starts from about £70
per
person if I book well in advance don't mind not arriving till the mid
afternoon
(if the trains are on time) and doesn't garnetee a seat. That's a lot more
than
a return flight to Paris from my local airport.

Thats rubbish.

Perhaps you have easyjet flights, booked well in advance at an inconvenient
hours.
But, try it at a weekend and it'll be 70 quid if you book well in advance in
winter.
OTOH business hours flights on BA will cost over £200

Why would I fly BA if I can get flights cheaper? That's like saying I can book
tickets by rail for £70 but Would have to pay £210 for 1st class. I'd be stung
for £145 for the cheapest business hours trains.

Unfortunately I can't get the BA website to give prices for any dates it just
sits at:
"Price and availability information is being gathered. In a moment, you will be
able to explore your options, then book your tickets."

Also: train fares.
Choose the journeys you say, and I'd guess you can get to london from
scotland for less than 40 quid.

I'm not in Scotland and booking well in advance I can't get tickets for less
than £70 on the trains (booking in advance through my local station) lord help
me should I want an open return as the price jumps to £145 and still no
guarantee of a seat. (Ok to I could actually get a ticket for just under £50 if
I were happy to change twice and more than double the jury time, that would make
it only singly more expensive than flying to Paris). I really shouldn't be
phoning the station and looking on trainline I have other things to do, sadly
this is actually more interesting.)

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Depresion wrote:

"Martin2" wrote in message
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Now had you jumped on Eurostar and simply crossed platforms in Brussels it
is
likely you would have ha a much more pleasant journey. Just think, not
having
to queue at the ferry port or having to drive.

That ignores the pleasure you would get from getting to the Eurostar
terminal on public transport
with two children and assorted luggage in tow

Isn't it sad that it's often quicker and almost always cheaper to fly to Paris
than take the train to London.

The fare from my local station in Hampshire to London, 2 adults 4 children is
£51.50.
How can I get to Paris for less?

The _standard_ fare from _my_ local station in Chester to London starts at
90 pounds per adult.

Advance tickets seem to be impossible to purchase - Online they're not
available, over the phone "Wait 4-6 weeks before you're due to travel,
when it _was_ 4 to 6 weeks before we were due to travel.

We can fly from Liverpool to Paris CDG for under 40 per person, return (by
travelling at the right time).

Pete.

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"Grant Mason" wrote in message
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"W K" wrote in message


Thats rubbish.

Perhaps you have easyjet flights, booked well in advance at an
inconvenient hours.
But, try it at a weekend and it'll be 70 quid if you book well in
advance in winter.

Next weekend it's £57 inc taxes Heathrow to Paris on bmi.

Lucky you.

OTOH business hours flights on BA will cost over £200

Heathrow to Paris next week on bmi in business hours. £63 inc taxes.
Gatwick to Paris next week on BA in business hours. £92 inc taxes.

"business hours" meaning going there in time to get some work done, rather
than "in business hours" which could mean arriving late afternoon.

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"Depresion" wrote in message
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"W K" wrote in message
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"Depresion" wrote in message
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There fair from my local station (when it reopens) starts from about
£70
per
person if I book well in advance don't mind not arriving till the mid
afternoon
(if the trains are on time) and doesn't garnetee a seat. That's a lot
more
than
a return flight to Paris from my local airport.

Thats rubbish.

Perhaps you have easyjet flights, booked well in advance at an
inconvenient
hours.
But, try it at a weekend and it'll be 70 quid if you book well in
advance in
winter.
OTOH business hours flights on BA will cost over £200

Why would I fly BA if I can get flights cheaper?

Because there aren't many easyjet ones.
So you have more flexibility, can cancel etc.
So if you arrive 38 minutes ahead of the flight you might get on.

I'd be stung
for £145 for the cheapest business hours trains.

Aren't you in the north west somewhere? you can get them for less.

Also: train fares.
Choose the journeys you say, and I'd guess you can get to london from
scotland for less than 40 quid.

I'm not in Scotland and booking well in advance I can't get tickets for
less
than £70 on the trains (booking in advance through my local station)

Try the alternatives.

me should I want an open return as the price jumps to £145 and still no

Whatever you do, don't compare _that_ to easyjet.

guarantee of a seat.

should be able to.

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"W K" wrote in message

"Grant Mason" wrote in message
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Heathrow to Paris next week on bmi in business hours. £63 inc taxes.
Gatwick to Paris next week on BA in business hours. £92 inc taxes.

"business hours" meaning going there in time to get some work done,
rather than "in business hours" which could mean arriving late
afternoon.

Both flights are early AM departs.

So,

Thats rubbish.

was ********. Quelle surprise.

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"W K" wrote in message
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"Depresion" wrote in message
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"W K" wrote in message
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"Depresion" wrote in message
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There fair from my local station (when it reopens) starts from about
£70
per
person if I book well in advance don't mind not arriving till the mid
afternoon
(if the trains are on time) and doesn't garnetee a seat. That's a lot
more
than
a return flight to Paris from my local airport.

Thats rubbish.

Perhaps you have easyjet flights, booked well in advance at an
inconvenient
hours.
But, try it at a weekend and it'll be 70 quid if you book well in
advance in
winter.
OTOH business hours flights on BA will cost over £200

Why would I fly BA if I can get flights cheaper?

Because there aren't many easyjet ones.
So you have more flexibility, can cancel etc.
So if you arrive 38 minutes ahead of the flight you might get on.

I'd be stung
for £145 for the cheapest business hours trains.

Aren't you in the north west somewhere? you can get them for less.

Not according to the booking office at my station or trainline, if you know
someone who can beet there prices the please tell me as It's quite obvious that
both of them are overcharging.

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"Grant Mason" wrote in message
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"W K" wrote in message

"Grant Mason" wrote in message
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Heathrow to Paris next week on bmi in business hours. £63 inc taxes.
Gatwick to Paris next week on BA in business hours. £92 inc taxes.

"business hours" meaning going there in time to get some work done,
rather than "in business hours" which could mean arriving late
afternoon.

Both flights are early AM departs.

Still lucky you.

Thats rubbish.

was ********. Quelle surprise.

What sort of pathetic snipping is that?
Removed from a different part of the thread, not just out of context, but
inappropriately placed.
If thats your level I could put me: "grass is green" ... you:"********"

It was (I believe) trying to compare flights from possibly liverpool to
trains to london.
Actual statement being that -70 quid is a lot more than the flight to paris.
H-P at 63 quid would seem a good deal, but 70 quid is hardly "a lot more"

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"Depresion" wrote in message
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I'd be stung
for £145 for the cheapest business hours trains.

Aren't you in the north west somewhere? you can get them for less.

Not according to the booking office at my station or trainline, if you
know
someone who can beet there prices the please tell me as It's quite obvious
that
both of them are overcharging.

It depends where you are going from. A clue as to which stations you could
drive to would be useful.
Theres a very early one you can pick up from Warrington or crewe, that'll be
at least 40 less.

If you can be rigid on return times at approx 18:20 + (or even before),
Then even with an expensive outbound single, you can get a dead cheap return
leg (16 quid?) Making the whole thing ~80 or 90.

I know thats not great, but its a market driven thing.
They can charge 145 quid and fill the train.
Would you really want state intervention to force that price down? The
bugger would be packed!

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"W K" wrote in message


What sort of pathetic snipping is that?
Removed from a different part of the thread

It was a direct quote from the first message I replied to, not a different
part of the thread.

You stated that you would need to book well ahead to pay as little as £70 to
fly to
Paris at a weekend.

I provided evidence that you don't have to.

You stated that "BA business hours" flights would cost £200.

I provided evidence that you can pay between £63 and £92 return for an early
morning business flight next week.

So the OP's point was not rubbish, unlike your assertions.

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"W K" wrote in message
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I know thats not great, but its a market driven thing.
They can charge 145 quid and fill the train.
Would you really want state intervention to force that price down? The
bugger would be packed!

They are bad enough as it is, without more people on them but I still find it
odd that I can get to Paris for a meeting cheaper than I can to London. Then
again there is more competition when flying than there is taking the train.