wrote:

"JNugent" wrote:

[ ... ]

Motorways take about 50 square miles of the UK - 0.05% of the
total land area.

So?????

So it makes you look pretty silly when you ranted: "So where do you
stop, when the whole country is one great network of
asphalt???", doesn't it?

Look it up, an analogy. It was an extreme statement of a truth we
are ina a society that would keep paving over green areas to provide
faster access.

Look up "analogy". It doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.
Look up "truth". It doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.
I have never heard the expression "an extreme statement of a truth"
before, but I don't think characterising motorway land-usage of
0.05% as "the whole country is one great network of asphalt" has
much to do with truth, let alone any concept of "extreme statement"
of it.

I suggest you re-read the definition of analogy, I did look it up
before I used it

Why?

Didn't you know what it means?

Oops! Of course you didn't...

and it says "partial similarity"

There is *no* similarity between a motorway land-take of 0.05% of the UK's
landmass and your fearful phrase "the whole country is one great network of
asphalt" - not even a "partial similarity".

Admit it - you thought the percentage was *much* higher than 0.05%, didn't
you? :-)

"Huge" wrote
"DavidR" writes:
"NM" wrote

Yeah great view, especially for those who are stuck with living in
concrete jungles, If they can get access to a car they can at least
experience what life is like beyond walking/bus distances.

Most concrete jungles and drab housing estates seem to have been created
around the car.

Given that they have little or no parking, can I enquire as to where this
ludicrous idea came from?

Ever been to Basingstoke?

"derek" wrote
"DavidR" wrote:

"NM" wrote

Yeah great view, especially for those who are stuck with living in
concrete jungles, If they can get access to a car they can at least
experience what life is like beyond walking/bus distances.

Most concrete jungles and drab housing estates seem to have been created
around the car. Had they not been built perhaps people would not be
screaming to get out.


You are not making yourself clear.

I have a number of very dreary new towns in mind.

Lower down the social scale, we have the combination of 60's tower blocks
and main roads. Bit like railways were cut 100 years earlier.

In article ,
says...

"David J Rainey" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
Yeah whatever I think you will find I am right

The facts have been posted. You are quite wrong.

David

What facts??? everyone berates me for facts yet provide no sources of their
own other than their senile memories. I said yuppies came from the 1980s,
evertyone said rubbish, I post a link it all goes quiet,

I agree that Yuppies "appeared" in the 1980's or at least that's when
they became known as such.

how many more facts
do you want, I can prove mine can you yours???

I posted links. Repeated below for your convenience:-

In article ,
says...

What about all the other people???? Do you forget the miners strikes when
good ol MT decided to close all of the pits

When did MT decide to close all the pits?

so we imported cheap coal from
Africa. Now most of the pits have closed Africas coal price has risen
dramatically,

No. South Africa, which produces about 95% of African coal did get more
expensive in the last year, but that is from a very low base and SA coal
is still cheaper than it was in 1996.

As indeed it appears to be from all non-EU sources.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/eustmimp.html

oh yeah she was an absolute genius! Any 5 year old could have
seen that coming

If Britain had producted a major world market share of coal, the loss of
the pits could have indeed raised prices. However, since UK production
was 2.5% of global tonnage in 1992 and 0.7% by 2001, it seems deeply
unlikely that this was the case here.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/iea/table53.html

The pits were shut because the coal they produced was too expensive and
recoverable reserves were only 0.2% of world totals. The loss of related
jobs is sad and painful. But it merely extends and prolongs the pain for
both miners and taxpayers to artificially support an industry which is
doomed.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/iea/table82.html


rgds

David

In message , Chris Jones
writes
Your view is certainly not shared by me, yes she may have buiilt roads,
but look at what happens road building leads to more traffic, this
has been researched.
This is almost the same argument put forward by one of the landed gentry
on seeing the railways. "Oh no, it'll just encourage the working class
to travel." It's along the lines of, "I'm entitled to travel, but
you've got to stay put.
--
Clive

In message , Steve Firth
writes

I have to ask, How? Brindisi/Calais used to take me two long days driving.

Jaguar XJR, and eyes open for Les Flics.

And I'm usually not the fastest thing on the roads.
This is not a bad advert for Ford.
--
Clive

In message , iantheengineer
writes

So lets see more cars on the new roads, oh and more cars on the a road
, oh and the b road, oh and yes another car parking space required, and
not forgetting the pollution emitted by the vehicle and its effect in
increasing the congestion.....


Oh and the Sallys friend thinks what a good idea, and then Jane.. and
then John


Are we getting there...do I need to draw a picture for you.

So it's O.K. for you to travel, but not others, or are you going to lead
by example and stay within walking distance of your home all of your
life?
--
Clive

In message , iantheengineer
writes

Speed humps are used to prevent speeding idiots and save lives. Do you
REALLY think that a local authority with limited funds would waste it n
putting in humps for the sake of it.

Come on now get real!!
In my neck of the wood, West Cumbria, yes. We have restricted parking
next to a school in term time, 100yds. Away we have a 24/7/365 20mph.
Limit next to a school. The road planners just don't know what
they're doing, they just have to spend the available money. So we get
speed humps on our roads and very little salt/grit in the winter.
--
Clive

In message , iantheengineer
writes

Yes they do I can produce the stats if required from ROSPA that have
been statistically proven to a 90-95% confidence interval, however no
doubt you will doubt these, I have given up with this NG. They seem to
think that government bodies sit thinking of ways to waste momey and
alienate the public, dont you think you are missing the bigger picture???
Who was it said. "There are lies, damn lies and statistics.?
--
Clive

In message , David J Rainey
writes

The pits were shut because the coal they produced was too expensive and
recoverable reserves were only 0.2% of world totals. The loss of
related jobs is sad and painful. But it merely extends and prolongs the
pain for both miners and taxpayers to artificially support an industry
which is doomed.
When North sea gas runs out, what are we going to do then to replace it,
the best source of heat for the community.
--
Clive