"Paul Scott" wrote..
To save searching can anyone remember where the other ends of the Bond St
and Tottenham Court Rd stations are - IIRC they aren't near existing
stations though.

Both extend widely to new entrances (eg TCR will new entrances at Hanocer
square and near Centre point), but neither will impinge on neighbouring
stations.

I'm pretty sure that L'pool St/Moorgate and Farringdon/Barbican are the only
ones where this is an issue.

Station naming is a big issue for the fire brigade - I recall a few years
ago a proposal to rename Monument as Bank, which has a certain logic, but
with some 12 entrances (I made that up - but there's plenty), the LFB
reckoned that getting to the right one in event of fire or terrorist
activity was going to be a tad difficult.
--

Andrew

On 16 May, 16:24, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:04:13 on Sat, 16
May 2009, John Rowland
remarked:
Maybe they wouldn't be allowed to have platforms below water.

Not so. If it weren't for the last-minute addition of the retail
component, the station would have been built with exactly the same
layout, only with water where the retail will be.

Having built on every scrap of land they are now building on the old
docks - so inconsiderate for someone to have dug them in the first
place.

There's no other reason for it being built so much earlier than the
rest of the line. The Canary Wharf Group (or whatever they're called)
must be very keen to get those shops open.

U

On May 17, 12:23*am, Mr Thant
wrote:

On 16 May, 16:24, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 15:04:13 on Sat, 16
May 2009, John Rowland
remarked:
Maybe they wouldn't be allowed to have platforms below water.

Not so. If it weren't for the last-minute addition of the retail
component, the station would have been built with exactly the same
layout, only with water where the retail will be.

Having built on every scrap of land they are now building on the old
docks - so inconsiderate for someone to have dug them in the first
place.

There's no other reason for it being built so much earlier than the
rest of the line. The Canary Wharf Group (or whatever they're called)
must be very keen to get those shops open.


Not so quick - there is another reason, namely that North Quay will be
the worksite for the Crossrail station. The Canary Wharf Group (CWG)
can't begin construction of the new office development on North Quay,
which already has planning permission, until the Crossrail station box
has been finished - which it should be by summer 2012. So the shops
aren't the driving force here.

There's more info in this CWG press release (look for the para
beginning "North Quay..."):
http://www.canarywharf.com/news/ns_news_t.asp?id=398

This bit's also interesting:
---quote---
Canary Wharf Group will construct Canary Wharf Crossrail station for a
fixed price of £500 million. £350 million of the station’s £500
million costs will be met from Crossrail’s £15.9bn budget with CWG
bearing the risk in relation to costs above the fixed price limit.

CWG’s contribution of £150 million will be applied against future
Crossrail Section 106 contributions for certain agreed sites which may
be required as proposed alterations to the London Plan.
---/quote---

So the station is CWG's 'baby', which perhaps explains the addition of
the four floors of retail (is this element really such a late addition
though?).

In message
, at
16:23:08 on Sat, 16 May 2009, Mr Thant
remarked:
There's no other reason for it being built so much earlier than the
rest of the line. The Canary Wharf Group (or whatever they're called)
must be very keen to get those shops open.

Do they have to dig the tunnels that connect to the station first, or
does the station box come first?
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 21:14:46 on
Sat, 16 May 2009, Paul Corfield remarked:
Hanover Square / Tenterden St behind Oxford St / Oxford Circus is the
eastern exit point for Bond St Station. IIRC there is no physical link
to Oxford Circus tube station. Only in London could we fail to provide
such a link.

Perhaps a "crowd control" feature. They want to spread the people out by
making them take a roundabout route.
--
Roland Perry

On May 17, 7:50*am, Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at
16:23:08 on Sat, 16 May 2009, Mr Thant
remarked:

There's no other reason for it being built so much earlier than the
rest of the line. The Canary Wharf Group (or whatever they're called)
must be very keen to get those shops open.

Do they have to dig the tunnels that connect to the station first, or
does the station box come first?

The station box, by the looks of it - the construction of which was
kicked off on Friday at Canary Wharf (or at least that's what the PR
people would have you believe!) . From a construction POV I'd imagine
that sequencing the station box first can only make sense - not sure
it'd really be possible or at least easy to do it the other way round.

Roland Perry wrote:
In message
,
at 16:23:08 on Sat, 16 May 2009, Mr Thant
remarked:
There's no other reason for it being built so much earlier than the
rest of the line. The Canary Wharf Group (or whatever they're called)
must be very keen to get those shops open.

Do they have to dig the tunnels that connect to the station first, or
does the station box come first?

If they don't want the tunnels to flood, they'd better build the station box
first!

On 17 May, 00:56, Mizter T wrote:
Not so quick - there is another reason, namely that North Quay will be
the worksite for the Crossrail station. The Canary Wharf Group (CWG)
can't begin construction of the new office development on North Quay,
which already has planning permission, until the Crossrail station box
has been finished - which it should be by summer 2012. So the shops
aren't the driving force here.

Ah, that makes sense.

So the station is CWG's 'baby', which perhaps explains the addition of
the four floors of retail (is this element really such a late addition
though?).

Yes. Original design with two separate islands (see drawing page 336):
http://billdocuments.crossrail.co.uk...er_08_pt09.pdf

Announcement of new design (July 2008):
http://www.canarywharf.com/news/ns_news_t.asp?id=344

(it may have always been envisioned something might go in the middle,
but certainly it was only as an optional extra)

U

On May 16, 6:52*am, MIG wrote:

Or will they stick with three totally separate Canary Wharf stations, and
have a pretty confusing set of 'outerchanges'?

Anyway, in keeping with Maidstone, the one furthest north should be
called Canary Wharf East, and in keeping with Canterbury, the one
furthest south should be called Canary Wharf East. *This will avoid
confusion.

LOL

--
Nick

On May 17, 1:29*pm, "John Rowland"
wrote:

Do they have to dig the tunnels that connect to the station first, or
does the station box come first?

If they don't want the tunnels to flood, they'd better build the station box
first!

You beat me to it.

--
Nick