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![]() "1506" wrote Was the old Watford High St to Croxley route ever formerly closed? I had the feeling that it had its serviced reduced until it could be replace by a bus. It was eventually - after some time when it had been reduced to 1 train each way a day, in the early morning. Then this was bustituted (according to the timetable, but in practice taxistuted), and eventually formally closed. Even after formal closure someone reported being able to buy a ticket to Croxley Green out of a ticket machine somewhere. Peter |
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Last time I spoke to them, the Herts guys did seem unusually confident
and excited about this going ahead, even for a press office. That was back in March, and they were saying then that they were aiming for a 2015 completion. The next barrier it has to overcome is project entry status with the DfT which, if I remember, it is meant to be in the process of attaining as we speak. I'll drop Herts an email and see if they've got any news or dates associated with that yet. John Bull |
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Mizter T wrote:
On May 28, 10:19*pm, wrote: Works application set to be submitted in May next year. A public inquiry is proposed for February 2011. Thats excellent news! Does that mean the current Watford station will close? Yes All this pre-supposes such an enquiry will rule in favour. If a public enquiry goes against, it won't happen. And the Cassiobury Park area - where Watford Met. lies - strikes me as an area that might have quite a lot of nimbies in it. Er, "imbies" surely - the problem for Cassiobury Park residents is that they'd be *losing* their Met line station altogether, and instead they'd have to troop south to either the new Ascot Road or the re- opened Watford West stations. The new construction would be relatively minimal - a link from the existing line near Baldwins Lane across Watford Road to reach the existing alignment across the Grand Union Canal (the bridge still being existent) and on east. I'm not au fait with the exact proposals for this link, and I'm sure some people would complain (particularly so if the pub on the roundabout gets it), but the new link is of such a small distance that I don't think it would lead to any particularly orchestrated campaign against it. There might be some complaints from people along the course of the existing alignment opposing it being reopened, but that would weigh against the convenience of a new station nearby so I wouldn't expect this to be a problem. A thorough analysis, Mizter T. I'm finding it difficult to disagree. ;-) I'd think the only potential for people getting really upset would be caused by the loss of Watford Met station - and said people are indeed likely to be the Cassiobury Park folk. Friends who live close to the existing line and within a five minute walk of the station will be only too pleased to see it go. It is both noisy and visually intrusive. Their walk to the new station will still be fairly short, but they will be pleased not to hear the trains. I have no idea whether their views are representative, though. What is it about Underground trains and permanent way that makes them so noisy? The traction motors are loud, the brake compressors are loud and the noise of the rail joints and thumps over the pointwork are also loud. Is it just me, or are they intrinsically louder than on main line railways? |
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"Tony Polson" wrote in message
What is it about Underground trains and permanent way that makes them so noisy? The traction motors are loud, the brake compressors are loud and the noise of the rail joints and thumps over the pointwork are also loud. Is it just me, or are they intrinsically louder than on main line railways? I think thje A Stock is particularly annoying because of the hideous racket made by the compressors. The new S Stock should be a lot quieter. |
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On May 29, 1:58*am, wrote:
Last time I spoke to them, the Herts guys did seem unusually confident and excited about this going ahead, even for a press office. That was back in March, and they were saying then that they were aiming for a 2015 completion. The next barrier it has to overcome is project entry status with the DfT which, if I remember, it is meant to be in the process of attaining as we speak. I'll drop Herts an email and see if they've got any news or dates associated with that yet. Thanks, This is excellent news. |
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"Recliner" wrote:
"Tony Polson" wrote in message What is it about Underground trains and permanent way that makes them so noisy? The traction motors are loud, the brake compressors are loud and the noise of the rail joints and thumps over the pointwork are also loud. Is it just me, or are they intrinsically louder than on main line railways? I think thje A Stock is particularly annoying because of the hideous racket made by the compressors. The new S Stock should be a lot quieter. Thanks. It really cannot be worse. |
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"1506" wrote in message
... The existing Met. Station, IIRC is next to Cassiobury Park. I doubt many folks will be inconvenienced. Many, many more Metroland residents will gain the benefit of a main line connection. Will the Croxley Rail Link facilitate plans to re-extend the Bakerloo Line from Harrow & Wealdstone to Watford Junction? What's going with that, anyway? |
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On May 30, 2:42*am, wrote:
"1506" wrote in message ... The existing Met. Station, IIRC is next to Cassiobury Park. *I doubt many folks will be inconvenienced. * Many, many more Metroland residents will gain the benefit of a main line connection. Will the Croxley Rail Link facilitate plans to re-extend the Bakerloo Line from Harrow & Wealdstone to Watford Junction? What's going with that, anyway? AFIK extending the Bakerloo is fading back into obscurity. I don't see any negative issues. But mixing tube with mainline and subsurface stoke means that the platforms have to be compromise height. Better in my view to keep the Bakerloo as is, and extend the East London Line. |
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On May 30, 2:42*am, wrote:
"1506" wrote in message ... The existing Met. Station, IIRC is next to Cassiobury Park. *I doubt many folks will be inconvenienced. * Many, many more Metroland residents will gain the benefit of a main line connection. Will the Croxley Rail Link facilitate plans to re-extend the Bakerloo Line from Harrow & Wealdstone to Watford Junction? What's going with that, anyway? AFIK extending the Bakerloo is fading back into obscurity. I don't see any negative issues. But, mixing tube with mainline and subsurface stock means that the platforms have to be compromise height. Better in my view to keep the Bakerloo as is, and extend the East London Line. |
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