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Assuming the shopping centre doesn't get blown up by a WWII UXB, what will
happen to the Central and H&C lines while it's being completed? Will there be a new interchange? Will the lines be closed? |
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"Paul Weaver" wrote in message ... Assuming the shopping centre doesn't get blown up by a WWII UXB, what will happen to the Central and H&C lines while it's being completed? Will there be a new interchange? Will the lines be closed? No no major new interchange I'm afraid. There will be a new underground Central line depot however, first of its kind ever in the World, I believe. Possibly and only eventually a new station may be opened on the H&C at Arial way but this is not for definite. The Shepherds Bush Central Line station however is being completely updated. Lines closed? Yes I'm sure the H&C where it crosses Wood Lane will be suspended, a new bridge is being constructed there, more than likely weekend work. . Access to this new depot is going to be from a branch constructed just East of the old central line Wood Lane station - Eastbound tunnel. Central Line closures as a result of this work? non as far as is planned yet, no doubt there could nbe a White city - Marble arch suspensions on a few weekends but that's a long way off yet. The current plans are for the Central Line depot to be operating end of 2005 which seems a bit over optimistic but u never know if things go according to plan it could happen. Multiplex are the contractors and the site is owned by Chelsfield PLC There's quite an amazing flash presentation, I dunno if you've seen it alrerady but u can watch here http://www.chelsfield.co.uk/whitecity.html (if u have a decent Internet connection) which tells u all about it and also a plan view which can be enlarged. http://www.chelsfield.co.uk/wcplan.htm |
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No no major new interchange I'm afraid. There will be a new underground Central line depot however, first of its kind ever in the World, I believe. Possibly and only eventually a new station may be opened on the H&C at Arial way but this is not for definite. The Shepherds Bush Central Line station however is being completely updated. there are also plans for a new station on the willesden Junc - Clapham junction line, which I had heard was going to be a connection to the Central line station, which would make a lot of sense, but no mention of it in Chelsfield's website -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:58:31 +0100, Stephen Richards
wrote: there are also plans for a new station on the willesden Junc - Clapham junction line, which I had heard was going to be a connection to the Central line station, which would make a lot of sense, but no mention of it in Chelsfield's website It's at the bottom right of the development, but is labelled on the middle right section of the plan at http://www.chelsfield.co.uk/wcplan.htm Regards, Clive -- The fastest AS/400 programmer in the west! | Note -- spamtrap in use. | Use the Reply-to address. For details of a West London National Trust property, | visit http://www.osterleypark.org.uk/ | What -- me worry? |
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"Clive R Robertson" wrote in message
... http://www.chelsfield.co.uk/wcplan.htm That "Potential Hammersmith & City Line station" looks pretty curved... I guess that one will never be built, then. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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"Pre-38" wrote in message ... "Paul Weaver" wrote in message ... Assuming the shopping centre doesn't get blown up by a WWII UXB, what will happen to the Central and H&C lines while it's being completed? Will there be a new interchange? Will the lines be closed? No no major new interchange I'm afraid. There will be a new underground Central line depot however, first of its kind ever in the World, I believe. So it's to be the only underground depot on the London underground central line, in the world. How many other london undeground central lines are there? tim Possibly and only eventually a new station may be opened on the H&C at Arial way but this is not for definite. The Shepherds Bush Central Line station however is being completely updated. Lines closed? Yes I'm sure the H&C where it crosses Wood Lane will be suspended, a new bridge is being constructed there, more than likely weekend work. . Access to this new depot is going to be from a branch constructed just East of the old central line Wood Lane station - Eastbound tunnel. Central Line closures as a result of this work? non as far as is planned yet, no doubt there could nbe a White city - Marble arch suspensions on a few weekends but that's a long way off yet. The current plans are for the Central Line depot to be operating end of 2005 which seems a bit over optimistic but u never know if things go according to plan it could happen. Multiplex are the contractors and the site is owned by Chelsfield PLC There's quite an amazing flash presentation, I dunno if you've seen it alrerady but u can watch here http://www.chelsfield.co.uk/whitecity.html (if u have a decent Internet connection) which tells u all about it and also a plan view which can be enlarged. http://www.chelsfield.co.uk/wcplan.htm |
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"Pre-38" wrote in message
... There will be a new underground Central line depot Will the Caxton curve be got rid of? -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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Central line depot however, first of its kind ever in the World, I believe. So it's to be the only underground depot on the London underground central line, in the world. How many other london undeground central lines are there? tim Its the First underground one. ie no daylight gets to it. It will have a wahcking great buildong on top. |
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Rob wrote:
Central line depot however, first of its kind ever in the World, I believe. So it's to be the only underground depot on the London underground central line, in the world. How many other london undeground central lines are there? tim Its the First underground one. ie no daylight gets to it. It will have a wahcking great buildong on top. Does any daylight normally get to the W&C depot at Waterloo? -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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writes Rob wrote: Central line depot however, first of its kind ever in the World, I believe. So it's to be the only underground depot on the London underground central line, in the world. How many other london undeground central lines are there? tim Its the First underground one. ie no daylight gets to it. It will have a wahcking great buildong on top. Does any daylight normally get to the W&C depot at Waterloo? Yes (although not a lot) - down the carriage lift-shaft that emerges in Spur Road (and I think the back part of the depot between Spur Road and Lower Marsh also gets a little daylight). -- Paul Terry |
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"John Rowland" wrote in message ... "Pre-38" wrote in message ... There will be a new underground Central line depot Will the Caxton curve be got rid of? -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped er No, why should it? that's about 100 meters west of Shepherds Bush. Simply not affected. The open section on the westbound further on, the bit when u first see daylight after leaving "the Bush", before White City, again on a tight curve, will however be covered over, as the development intends to build on top of it. -- regards, Pre`38 tube [DR] westLondon, UK |
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"Pre-38" wrote in message ...
"John Rowland" wrote in message ... "Pre-38" wrote in message ... There will be a new underground Central line depot Will the Caxton curve be got rid of? -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped er No, why should it? that's about 100 meters west of Shepherds Bush. Simply not affected. The open section on the westbound further on, the bit when u first see daylight after leaving "the Bush", before White City, again on a tight curve, will however be covered over, as the development intends to build on top of it. I want them to get rid of the reverse running at White City, one of the most baffling five minutes in my life trying to fathom that. OK maybe I'm mad but I was very confused! |
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"CJC" I want them to get rid of the reverse running at White City, one of the most baffling five minutes in my life trying to fathom that. OK maybe I'm mad but I was very confused! What's so baffling about it. Train comes in middle road, right? u get off right ?if u stay on the doors may close in a while then open t'other side, if u don't get off then, simple- u get taken back to where u came from, so thats ur look out. Train comes in Westbound platform, nobody will get taken up the siding because they are all tipped out. These people that sit there dumbfounded because they ain't a damn clue where train's destination they got on in the first place is goin' to, then start moaning they're lost! I have no sympathy. Sorry. well Im not even sorry really if I tell the truth. Same thing at Golders Green and many other points on the system I believe. -- regards, Pre`38 tube [DR] westLondon, UK |
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What CJC means is the right hand side running at White City. This AFAIK is
the only above ground location on LU where this happens. It all arose historically at the time of the westward extension from Shepherds Bush Lawrence Myers Pre-38 wrote: "CJC" I want them to get rid of the reverse running at White City, one of the most baffling five minutes in my life trying to fathom that. OK maybe I'm mad but I was very confused! What's so baffling about it. Train comes in middle road, right? u get off right ?if u stay on the doors may close in a while then open t'other side, if u don't get off then, simple- u get taken back to where u came from, so thats ur look out. Train comes in Westbound platform, nobody will get taken up the siding because they are all tipped out. These people that sit there dumbfounded because they ain't a damn clue where train's destination they got on in the first place is goin' to, then start moaning they're lost! I have no sympathy. Sorry. well Im not even sorry really if I tell the truth. Same thing at Golders Green and many other points on the system I believe. |
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"Reverse Running" means trains keeping to the right, rather than to the left
of each other as is standard in UK. From Caxton Curve, through White City, and to a point approx half way to East Acton trains run on the right hand track, not the left. Lawrence Myers Pre-38 wrote: "Lawrence Myers" wrote in message ... What CJC means is the right hand side running at White City. This AFAIK is the only above ground location on LU where this happens. It all arose historically at the time of the westward extension from Shepherds Bush Lawrence Myers Hold on a mo here Lawrence? What the heck has the switch at Caxton curve after leaving 'the Bush' Central Line to right hand side running got to do with CJC getting baffled at White City? Thats the bit I don't understand. There are many locations on the underground where at one station on a particular side the doors open and the at the next station they open on the other, if that is all it is. He was also typically referring to reversing at White City. I think we need CJC to clarify just what was so disorientating for him. -- |
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"Lawrence Myers" wrote in message ...
What CJC means is the right hand side running at White City. This AFAIK is the only above ground location on LU where this happens. It all arose historically at the time of the westward extension from Shepherds Bush "Historically"? Does anyone know the reasons why? |
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"Lawrence Myers" wrote in message ... "Reverse Running" means trains keeping to the right, rather than to the left of each other as is standard in UK. From Caxton Curve, through White City, and to a point approx half way to East Acton trains run on the right hand track, not the left. Lawrence Myers Ah ok now i understand you about reverse running not being White City reversing of the trains ok but still am confused as to why CJC had the most baffling five minutes of his life trying to fathom it out. Am I too understand he is referring to the reason for the 'reverse' running in the first place? I think I'm getting there on this, slowly. |
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Have a look at this page
http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/Wo...0whitecity.htm Lawrence Myers dan wrote: "Lawrence Myers" wrote in message ... What CJC means is the right hand side running at White City. This AFAIK is the only above ground location on LU where this happens. It all arose historically at the time of the westward extension from Shepherds Bush "Historically"? Does anyone know the reasons why? |
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(Paul Terry) wrote: In message , Richard J. writes Rob wrote: Central line depot however, first of its kind ever in the World, I believe. So it's to be the only underground depot on the London underground central line, in the world. How many other london undeground central lines are there? tim Its the First underground one. ie no daylight gets to it. It will have a wahcking great buildong on top. Does any daylight normally get to the W&C depot at Waterloo? Yes (although not a lot) - down the carriage lift-shaft that emerges in Spur Road (and I think the back part of the depot between Spur Road and Lower Marsh also gets a little daylight). You can see into the depot from the access road in that area. There's no carriage lift. The one that once existed was removed for the Eurostar platforms -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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Colin Rosenstiel writes In article , (Paul Terry) wrote: In message , Richard J. writes Does any daylight normally get to the W&C depot at Waterloo? Yes (although not a lot) - down the carriage lift-shaft that emerges in Spur Road (and I think the back part of the depot between Spur Road and Lower Marsh also gets a little daylight). You can see into the depot from the access road in that area. There's no carriage lift. The one that once existed was removed for the Eurostar platforms Well, "lift" is perhaps the wrong word - I refer to the permanent crane and its access shaft to the depot below. -- Paul Terry |
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dan wrote:
"Lawrence Myers" wrote in message ... What CJC means is the right hand side running at White City. This AFAIK is the only above ground location on LU where this happens. It all arose historically at the time of the westward extension from Shepherds Bush "Historically"? Does anyone know the reasons why? See This page http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/Wo...0whitecity.htm for full details -- Lawrence Myers |
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