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Waiting for a North London train a couple of days ago the station person
(what are they called these days?) came down onto the platform carrying what looked like a mobile phone. He went behind the side of the shelter and appeared to hold the "mobile phone" to the fence (the fence was creosoted a very dark colour). He appeared to do the same thing in more than one place on both platforms. When I looked there was a black "stud" (only word I can think of) which was simply inserted into the fence panel - it wasn't a fastener, there was not a post or anything behind the panel. Is there any significance to his actions? |
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On 14 June, 16:35, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:29:37 +0100, "Graham Harrison" wrote: Waiting for a North London train a couple of days ago the station person (what are they called these days?) came down onto the platform carrying what looked like a mobile phone. * He went behind the side of the shelter and appeared to hold the "mobile phone" to the fence (the fence was creosoted a very dark colour). * He appeared to do the same thing in more than one place on both platforms. * When I looked there was a black "stud" (only word I can think of) which was simply inserted into the fence panel - it wasn't a fastener, there was not a post or anything behind the panel. Is there any significance to his actions? The "studs" are almost certainly a location identifier that the hand held unit will read. By holding the unit against the stud it shows he has been to the area as part of a planned inspection. Bar codes can also be used. I have seen building security staff use this system to prove they've undertaken their rounds. *LUL is trialling something similar to be able to record the fact that hourly security checks around the station have been completed. -- Paul C In olden times, there were mechanical versions of this system, where staff had to punch a small card or similar actin to show they had done their rounds. The machines were known as 'tell tales'. |
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On 14 June, 17:53, tony wrote:
In olden times, there were mechanical versions of this system, where staff had to punch a small card or similar action A practice not unknown to public transport in bygone days; http://www.kfriends.org.uk/projects/bundy.htm -- gordon |
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wrote in message ... On 14 June, 17:53, tony wrote: In olden times, there were mechanical versions of this system, where staff had to punch a small card or similar action A practice not unknown to public transport in bygone days; http://www.kfriends.org.uk/projects/bundy.htm -- gordon I remember similar devices in London. |
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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:29:37 +0100, "Graham Harrison" wrote: Waiting for a North London train a couple of days ago the station person (what are they called these days?) came down onto the platform carrying what looked like a mobile phone. He went behind the side of the shelter and appeared to hold the "mobile phone" to the fence (the fence was creosoted a very dark colour). He appeared to do the same thing in more than one place on both platforms. When I looked there was a black "stud" (only word I can think of) which was simply inserted into the fence panel - it wasn't a fastener, there was not a post or anything behind the panel. Is there any significance to his actions? The "studs" are almost certainly a location identifier that the hand held unit will read. By holding the unit against the stud it shows he has been to the area as part of a planned inspection. Bar codes can also be used. I have seen building security staff use this system to prove they've undertaken their rounds. LUL is trialling something similar to be able to record the fact that hourly security checks around the station have been completed. We had a system like this at work - referred to as a "Deister". I presume they are the manufacturers. -- MatSav |
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On Jun 14, 7:12 pm, Owain wrote:
Paul Corfield wrote: The "studs" are almost certainly a location identifier that the hand held unit will read. By holding the unit against the stud it shows he has been to the area as part of a planned inspection. Bar codes can also be used. I have seen building security staff use this system to prove they've undertaken their rounds. LUL is trialling something similar to be able to record the fact that hourly security checks around the station have been completed. Some systems in 'night watchman' scenarios can raise an alarm if a location point isn't scanned within a time tolerance, in case the watchman has been apprehended by villains. Owain And Victorian/Edwardian policemen had to call in from police boxes on a regular basis. But there's an element of New Labour target-driven BS - it doesn't matter whether you pay any attention, talk to the passengers etc, just go round and clock in as required. Tim |
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In message , at 22:22:37 on Mon,
15 Jun 2009, rail remarked: Did the Victorian police really have access to phones? I'd have thought it would still be fairly rare in Edwardian times. The first police phone boxes were in Glasgow in 1891, then Sunderland in 1923, Newcastle in 1925 and London 1928 They were phased out after the introduction of personal radios in the 1970s though one is still in use in Newtown Linford. And not forgetting another one that Dr Who uses :) Of course, the original reason that a Police Box was chosen as his "disguise" in the original 1960's episode was that it could land almost anywhere in London and not look out of place... And getting back to the original theme of "reporting in", the police boxes were 2-way, with the flashing blue light indicating that an officer should call the police station and see what was wanted. -- Roland Perry |
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Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 22:22:37 on Mon, 15 Jun 2009, rail remarked: Did the Victorian police really have access to phones? I'd have thought it would still be fairly rare in Edwardian times. The first police phone boxes were in Glasgow in 1891, then Sunderland in 1923, Newcastle in 1925 and London 1928 They were phased out after the introduction of personal radios in the 1970s though one is still in use in Newtown Linford. And not forgetting another one that Dr Who uses :) I know it well :-) Of course, the original reason that a Police Box was chosen as his "disguise" in the original 1960's episode was that it could land almost anywhere in London and not look out of place... And getting back to the original theme of "reporting in", the police boxes were 2-way, with the flashing blue light indicating that an officer should call the police station and see what was wanted. Or that it was about to vanish... -- Graeme Wall This address not read, substitute trains for rail Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail |
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message ... Of course, the original reason that a Police Box was chosen as his "disguise" in the original 1960's episode was that it could land almost anywhere in London and not look out of place... Roland Perry Wasnt it supposed to adapt its outward appearence depending on where it landed. However that bit had failed so it was stuck as a police box. cheers, Simon |
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:13:12 +0100, "simon" wrote:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message ... Of course, the original reason that a Police Box was chosen as his "disguise" in the original 1960's episode was that it could land almost anywhere in London and not look out of place... Roland Perry Wasnt it supposed to adapt its outward appearence depending on where it landed. However that bit had failed so it was stuck as a police box. ISTR that was featured WRT the Master's Tardis which did function properly in that department. |
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"simon" wrote: "Roland Perry" wrote in message ... Of course, the original reason that a Police Box was chosen as his "disguise" in the original 1960's episode was that it could land almost anywhere in London and not look out of place... Roland Perry Wasnt it supposed to adapt its outward appearence depending on where it landed. However that bit had failed so it was stuck as a police box. The chameleon circuits had failed and the Master had the only available spares... -- Graeme Wall This address not read, substitute trains for rail Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail |
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In uk.railway Charles Ellson twisted the electrons to say:
ISTR that was featured WRT the Master's Tardis which did function properly in that department. nods As did the Rani's TARDIS. IIRC, in one of the Colin Baker stories the Doctor had a go at fixing the Chameleon Circuit - which resulted in his TARDIS changing appearance each time it landed, but not to something that fitted in with the environment any better than a police box? -- These opinions might not even be mine ... Let alone connected with my employer ... |
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On Jun 16, 7:38*am, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 22:22:37 on Mon, 15 Jun 2009, rail remarked: The first police phone boxes were in Glasgow in 1891, then Sunderland in 1923, Newcastle in 1925 and London 1928 They were phased out after the introduction of personal radios in the 1970s though one is still in use in Newtown Linford. And not forgetting another one that Dr Who uses :) Of course, the original reason that a Police Box was chosen as his "disguise" in the original 1960's episode was that it could land almost anywhere in London and not look out of place... And getting back to the original theme of "reporting in", the police boxes were 2-way, with the flashing blue light indicating that an officer should call the police station and see what was wanted. I presume this is the origin of the flashing blue light on police vehicles? |
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"Mizter T" wrote in message
... I presume this is the origin of the flashing blue light on police vehicles? I thought Jim Davidson started that. Ian |
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In message , at 23:13:12 on
Thu, 18 Jun 2009, simon remarked: Of course, the original reason that a Police Box was chosen as his "disguise" in the original 1960's episode was that it could land almost anywhere in London and not look out of place... Wasnt it supposed to adapt its outward appearence depending on where it landed. However that bit had failed so it was stuck as a police box. That's right. It got stuck that way in the first series. -- Roland Perry |
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, at 01:52:29 on Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Mizter T remarked: And getting back to the original theme of "reporting in", the police boxes were 2-way, with the flashing blue light indicating that an officer should call the police station and see what was wanted. I presume this is the origin of the flashing blue light on police vehicles? Blue is used in many ways as a "police colour". But originally, emergency vehicles didn't have flashing lights, just a bell. The early flashing lights used a rotating reflector, a bit like a tiny lighthouse, to produce the effect. -- Roland Perry |
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On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:06:14 +0000 (UTC), Alistair Gunn put finger to
keyboard and typed: In uk.railway Charles Ellson twisted the electrons to say: ISTR that was featured WRT the Master's Tardis which did function properly in that department. nods As did the Rani's TARDIS. IIRC, in one of the Colin Baker stories the Doctor had a go at fixing the Chameleon Circuit - which resulted in his TARDIS changing appearance each time it landed, but not to something that fitted in with the environment any better than a police box? Indeed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TARDIS#Exterior Mark -- Blog: http://mark.goodge.co.uk Stuff: http://www.good-stuff.co.uk |
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On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:02:38 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote: In message , at 01:52:29 on Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Mizter T remarked: And getting back to the original theme of "reporting in", the police boxes were 2-way, with the flashing blue light indicating that an officer should call the police station and see what was wanted. I presume this is the origin of the flashing blue light on police vehicles? Blue is used in many ways as a "police colour". But originally, emergency vehicles didn't have flashing lights, just a bell. The early flashing lights used a rotating reflector, a bit like a tiny lighthouse, to produce the effect. There might have been variations but AFAIR the flashing light on a police box was white, using a standard light bulb within a glass similar to those in navigation lights so that there was a generally horizontal spread. |
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