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Where have all the RMs gone?
"Brian Blandford" wrote in message
... Yes, but when are they going to add more stops along routes (e.g. Oxford St) to take on the passengers who used to hop on between stops? There is no reason to have so few stops especially when traffic moves so slowly. Oxford Street is a road which ought not to have any buses going along it. A free shuttle bus, taking people to the places where routes cross the street, would probably be a simple way to make the street a pedestrian precinct, and could probably handle all those who don't want to walk to a stop in a parallel street. -- Terry Harper http://www.terry.harper.btinternet.co.uk/ |
Where have all the RMs gone?
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:23:16 +0000, "Steve Naïve"
wrote: Oxford Street is a road which ought not to have any buses going along it. A free shuttle bus, taking people to the places where routes cross the street, would probably be a simple way to make the street a pedestrian precinct, and could probably handle all those who don't want to walk to a stop in a parallel street. Or the old 'travellator' idea? I was on Oxford Street today, and noticed that it seemed to be moving rather more quickly than in the past. However, most of the problems were being caused by inappropriately-stopped taxis than anything to do with buses, which themselves seemed not to be any problem, especially with the faster boarding due to off-bus ticketing[1]. This would suggest to me one of two courses of action:- 1) Ban taxis from Oxford Street and make it bus-only; or 2) Provide sufficient laybys (other than bus stops) in which taxis may stop, and prohibit them from stopping in any other location, with this being strictly enforced. Some changes to the traffic light phasing may also help - perhaps transponders on buses could be used to allow the main bus flow to get priority over crossing flows to keep things moving? [1] As an aside, those machines seem not to be too reliable; I've seen a number of people using violence against them to try and get "swallowed-up" money back. Seeing as they're based on parking machines which generally seem quite reliable (IMX), this needs dealing with. Neil -- Neil Williams is a valid email address, but is sent to /dev/null. Try my first name at the above domain instead if you want to e-mail me. |
Where have all the RMs gone?
In message , Neil Williams
writes [1] As an aside, those machines seem not to be too reliable; I've seen a number of people using violence against them to try and get "swallowed-up" money back. Seeing as they're based on parking machines which generally seem quite reliable (IMX), this needs dealing with. My (limited) experience watching people use the machines is that they don't read the instructions and expect them to dispense tickets anyway. In many cases, they will try to put their money in first, which is immediately rejected as a ticket type hasn't been selected. They don't realise the money is in the reject tray and select their ticket anyway. Then they look at the machine for a while until they realise their money is in the reject tray. Of course, when they start this process again, they put the money back in and the machine promptly issues the ticket from their last selection. -- Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building. You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK (please use the reply to address for email) |
Where have all the RMs gone?
Steve Fitzgerald ] writes:
In many cases, they will try to put their money in first, which is immediately rejected as a ticket type hasn't been selected. That is just stupid. These days with computer controlled machines, there is no reason to be inflexible like this. The same goes for BR ticket machines that only accept notes in one orientation. |
Where have all the RMs gone?
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:57:35 -0000, "Brian Blandford"
wrote: Yes, but when are they going to add more stops along routes (e.g. Oxford St) to take on the passengers who used to hop on between stops? There is no reason to have so few stops especially when traffic moves so slowly. I still don't understand why there isn't an Eastbound stop on Oxford Street at Bond Street station! |
Where have all the RMs gone?
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:43:39 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper"
wrote: Oxford Street is a road which ought not to have any buses going along it. A free shuttle bus, taking people to the places where routes cross the street, would probably be a simple way to make the street a pedestrian precinct, and could probably handle all those who don't want to walk to a stop in a parallel street. And a free shuttle bus isn't a bus, because....? |
Where have all the RMs gone?
"K" wrote in message
... And a free shuttle bus isn't a bus, because....? You tell me. It's a bus. -- Terry Harper, Web Co-ordinator, The Omnibus Society http://www.omnibussoc.org E-mail: URL: http://www.terry.harper.btinternet.co.uk/ |
Where have all the RMs gone?
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:38:58 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper"
wrote: And a free shuttle bus isn't a bus, because....? You tell me. It's a bus. You just said Oxford Street shouldn't have any buses then you said it should have free shuttle buses. Or did I misunderstand you? |
Where have all the RMs gone?
"K" wrote in message
... You just said Oxford Street shouldn't have any buses then you said it should have free shuttle buses. Or did I misunderstand you? What I said was that bus routes should not go along Oxford Street. It's virtually nose-to-tail with lightly loaded buses crawling along, held up by traffic lights and pedestrian crossings, then waiting to get on the stand at their own stops. If they either crossed Oxford Street, or ran parallel, the street could be made pedestrian, and a shuttle could run along the street, maybe one of the "train toastrack" variety, for anyone who didn't want to walk along the shops. You could probably save 4 or 5 buses on each service with the reduction in delays. -- Terry Harper, Web Co-ordinator, The Omnibus Society http://www.omnibussoc.org E-mail: URL: http://www.terry.harper.btinternet.co.uk/ |
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