Five new London Midland trains to carry 1,600 extra passengers from Watford and Bushey to london Euston from December
 

On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:53:17 -0700 (PDT), Andy wrote:

Supposedly there isn't capacity to do this, due to the large number of
'extra' trains now running on the slow lines, even at weekends. The
mainline platforms at Queen's Park are used by a couple of early
morning / late evening trains though (this isn't advertised in the
timetable due to possible engineering work, but the stops are shown on
the Live Departure Boards).

I'm not sure why they bother with these "secret" stops there, based on
my experience of taking a late-night train out of Euston. The train
was advertised even on the departure screens as first stop Wembley
Central. It did in fact stop at Queens Park, but unsurprisingly no-one
got on or off.

Five new London Midland trains to carry 1,600 extra passengersfrom Watford and Bushey to london Euston from December
 

On Oct 4, 8:41*pm, asdf wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:53:17 -0700 (PDT), Andy wrote:
Supposedly there isn't capacity to do this, due to the large number of
'extra' trains now running on the slow lines, even at weekends. The
mainline platforms at Queen's Park are used by a couple of early
morning / late evening trains though (this isn't advertised in the
timetable due to possible engineering work, but the stops are shown on
the Live Departure Boards).

I'm not sure why they bother with these "secret" stops there, based on
my experience of taking a late-night train out of Euston. The train
was advertised even on the departure screens as first stop Wembley
Central. It did in fact stop at Queens Park, but unsurprisingly no-one
got on or off.

Purely so that they don't have to run a replacement bus. Queens Park
does see use on the early morning trains.
I assume the railway staff (mainly LU) who use it have inside
information as to when the train won't be calling.

Five new London Midland trains to carry 1,600 extra passengers from Watford and Bushey to london Euston from December
 

"Andy" wrote in message
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The closure of the suburban entrance has been going on for some time,
long
before the closure of the Vicoria line escalator.
I don't see why putting extra gates in helps anyway when everbody is the
funnelled up the ramp onto the concourse.
Given that a lot of people are actually not going to the tube I was
wondering if there is any way people could exit via the service tunnel. I
assume not.


Actually the current closure of the suburban entrance has only been
since the escalator failure. The entrance was closed for a period
before, when the escalators from the Underground ticket hall to the
National Rail concourse were being overhauled and this happened both
morning and evening; there was a one-way system with the surburban
route used for exit from the Underground and the concourse escalator
used for entrance. The entrance then reopened until the Victoria line
escalator failed earlier this year. If the slope can cope with the
suburban passengers as well as everyone from the Underground, I don't
think it is the bottleneck you seem to think it is.

I suggest you look at where the crowds actually are; there are
insufficient gates with people 10 deep if even one train has arrived.
The gates are supposed to be kept open during the morning peak such is
the number of people trying to get through. Once people get through
the gates, there is not much congestion up the slope and only then if
someone stops moving.
I went into Euston today, the first time in a month and I couldn't believe
the mass of people trying to funnel down the single escalator to the
underground. I took one look and headed for Euston Sq to catch the Met to
Morgate then pick up the Northern Line there.
Then we had that **** of Professor who advises the Goverment on transport
issues saing that we should be paying a 7% increase in fares to fund
shortfalls.
Why stop there why not make 10% or even 15% then put our taxes up to boot.

Kevin