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Jubilee line this weekend
On Nov 9, 3:35*pm, wrote:
Not sure if its been mentioned already , but did anyone see that Inside O= ut program the other day which compared the idiotic closures of lines for maintenance against the regime in Paris where they were converting an entire line to automatic operation without disrupting the service at all? Everything was done at night. They compared the can-do attitude of the people there with the standard issue whinging and moaning of the people from Tubelines. Sometimes its embarrasing to be British. e.g. when our media lie that public transport quality / worker morale / can-do-ism is lower here than in bleedin' France. I guess they made up the fact that they did all the work at night did they? Err, no. That just shows that RATP is willing to allow engineering works to take longer and cost more in exchange for avoiding blockades, whereas TfL and TL view their core priority as delivering the weekday peak-hour service and so prioritise the delivery of upgrades as rapidly as possible, even when that involves shifting people onto buses, boats and probably cars a bit at the weekend. -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
Jubilee line this weekend
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:15:13 -0800 (PST)
John B wrote: I guess they made up the fact that they did all the work at night did the= y? Err, no. That just shows that RATP is willing to allow engineering works to take longer and cost more in exchange for avoiding blockades, whereas TfL and TL view their core priority as delivering the weekday peak-hour service and so prioritise the delivery of upgrades as If TfL and their sub-cons did their job properly then delivering peak hour services wouldn't be the slightest bit affected by night engineering works which would be done when the system is closed anyway. rapidly as possible, even when that involves shifting people onto buses, boats and probably cars a bit at the weekend. Yes, because obviously no one works or needs to travel into or through london at weekends so hardly anyone is affected. B2003 |
Jubilee line this weekend
On Nov 9, 4:59*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:15:13 -0800 (PST) John B wrote: I guess they made up the fact that they did all the work at night did the= y? Err, no. That just shows that RATP is willing to allow engineering works to take longer and cost more in exchange for avoiding blockades, whereas TfL and TL view their core priority as delivering the weekday peak-hour service and so prioritise the delivery of upgrades as If TfL and their sub-cons did their job properly then delivering peak hour services wouldn't be the slightest bit affected by night engineering works which would be done when the system is closed anyway. Yes. And they do (do the job properly), and so they aren't (affected). But obviously, if you only carry engineering work out at night and not at weekends, then it takes longer for it to get finished, and so commuters in the weekday peak have to wait longer for capacity and reliability improvements. rapidly as possible, even when that involves shifting people onto buses, boats and probably cars a bit at the weekend. Yes, because obviously no one works or needs to travel into or through london at weekends so hardly anyone is affected. The difference is, at weekends it might be a pain but the rest of the network has capacity. In the weekday peak, it doesn't. -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
Jubilee line this weekend
"David Cantrell" wrote in message k... On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 08:12:23PM -0000, Zen83237 wrote: "Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote: wrote: The Jubilee line is only running between Waterloo and North Greenwich is it really worth having it open? Yes. It provides a vital link across the Isle of Dogs, in turn connecting East London to South London without the need to go through the centre. Doesn't the DLR do that? Not really. The DLR will dump you in Greenwich, from where you'll have to get a train to London Bridge to get to pretty nearly anywhere else. The Jubilee line, on the other hand, will take you directly to useful places (like London Bridge or Waterloo), and will do it a lot quicker too. -- David Cantrell | Godless Liberal Elitist More people are driven insane through religious hysteria than by drinking alcohol. -- W C Fields errrr if you want to go from Isle of Dogs to London Bridge/Waterloo what is wrong with the DLR to Bank. The poster specified connecting the Isle of Dogs to south of the river. DLR to Greenwich full fills that. Unless you want to go the Dome, lets call it what it is, who goes to North Greenwich. |
Jubilee line this weekend
In message , David
Cantrell writes The DLR will dump you in Greenwich, from where you'll have to get a train to London Bridge to get to pretty nearly anywhere else. The Jubilee line, on the other hand, will take you directly to useful places (like London Bridge or Waterloo), and will do it a lot quicker too. Surely National Rail from Greenwich still goes to London Bridge and Waterloo - it also goes to Charing Cross, unlike the Jubilee. -- Paul Terry |
Jubilee line this weekend
On 9 Nov, 19:23, Paul Terry wrote:
In message , David Cantrell writes The DLR will dump you in Greenwich, from where you'll have to get a train to London Bridge to get to pretty nearly anywhere else. The Jubilee line, on the other hand, will take you directly to useful places (like London Bridge or Waterloo), and will do it a lot quicker too. Surely National Rail from Greenwich still goes to London Bridge and Waterloo - it also goes to Charing Cross, unlike the Jubilee. -- Paul Terry Again, only the Jubilee goes to the Greenwich peninsula. |
Jubilee line this weekend
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 07:23:22PM +0000, Paul Terry wrote:
In message , David Cantrell writes The DLR will dump you in Greenwich, from where you'll have to get a train to London Bridge to get to pretty nearly anywhere else. The Jubilee line, on the other hand, will take you directly to useful places (like London Bridge or Waterloo), and will do it a lot quicker too. Surely National Rail from Greenwich still goes to London Bridge and Waterloo Yes. It does it slower than the Jubilee line, less often, and with an additional inconvenient change. This sub-thread started off with: The Jubilee line is only running between Waterloo and North Greenwich is it really worth having it open? Yes. It provides a vital link across the Isle of Dogs, in turn connecting East London to South London without the need to go through the centre. Doesn't the DLR do that? My point is that the DLR does a ****-poor job of connecting East London to South London. In fact, it is only useful for that if you are only interested in Greenwich or Lewisham. Needless to say, those who live in Croydon, or Crystal Palace, or Sutton, or several zillion other places in South London, find the DLR to be about as useful for getting to the East End as a chocolate bicycle would be. -- David Cantrell | even more awesome than a panda-fur coat Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla. |
Jubilee line this weekend
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Jubilee line this weekend
Zen83237 wrote:
Unless you want to go the Dome, lets call it what it is, who goes to North Greenwich. At least one courier firm has its depot on the pennisula, on the road leading to the Blackwall tunnel. I've had to trek down there to collect packages because the useless sods couldn't deliver properly. |
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