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D7666 November 7th 09 11:18 PM

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 
On Nov 7, 11:14*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:

Does it really make sense to have a dedicated maintenance facility just
for this one tram?


One ?

You've obviousy not been following this very well have you.

--
Nick

Tom Anderson November 7th 09 11:38 PM

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, D7666 wrote:

On Nov 7, 11:14*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:

Does it really make sense to have a dedicated maintenance facility just
for this one tram?


One ?

You've obviousy not been following this very well have you.


No, not in the slightest! So, does it really make sense to have a
dedicated maintenance facility just for this small number of trams?

tom

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Arthur Figgis November 8th 09 09:10 AM

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 
Tom Anderson wrote:

Does it really make sense to have a dedicated maintenance facility just
for this one tram?


Given that a passing loop is apparently one of the main reasons for the
project, I suspect there may be more than one tram :)


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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

D7666 November 8th 09 09:25 AM

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 
On Nov 8, 10:10*am, Arthur Figgis wrote:

Does it really make sense to have a dedicated maintenance facility just
for this one tram?


Given that a passing loop is apparently one of the main reasons for the
project, I suspect there may be more than one tram :)


;o)

I restate my suggestion the depot *is* the passing loop in a shed.
Less pointwork needed. If VER can do it, so can the Hertfordshire
Interurban Electric Tramcar Company.

--
Nick

Peter Masson[_2_] November 8th 09 11:44 AM

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 


"Tom Anderson" wrote

Does it really make sense to have a dedicated maintenance facility just
for this one tram? Or when we say 'depot', do we mean 'somewhere to sleep
at night plus somewhere for light maintenance eg changing the light
bulbs', with heavy work being done at an existing major depot reached by
rail or low-loader?

We have the precedent of the Stourbridge PPMs, which have their own little
shed at the Junction. For that matter, Waterloo (W&C) manages all the
maintenance for the W&C trains, except when, after around 15 years, they had
to be craned out and taken away for overhaul. And Ryde shed copes with
maintaining the 70-year-old Island Line stock.

Peter


Tom Anderson November 8th 09 03:04 PM

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, D7666 wrote:

On Nov 8, 10:10*am, Arthur Figgis wrote:

Does it really make sense to have a dedicated maintenance facility just
for this one tram?


Given that a passing loop is apparently one of the main reasons for the
project, I suspect there may be more than one tram :)


;o)

I restate my suggestion the depot *is* the passing loop in a shed. Less
pointwork needed. If VER can do it, so can the Hertfordshire Interurban
Electric Tramcar Company.


Could it also be one of the stations?

tom

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KEEP CALM and CARRY ON

Paul November 8th 09 03:16 PM

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 
On Nov 8, 5:04*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, D7666 wrote:
On Nov 8, 10:10*am, Arthur Figgis wrote:


Does it really make sense to have a dedicated maintenance facility just
for this one tram?


Given that a passing loop is apparently one of the main reasons for the
project, I suspect there may be more than one tram :)


;o)


I restate my suggestion the depot *is* the passing loop in a shed. Less
pointwork needed. If VER can do it, so can the Hertfordshire Interurban
Electric Tramcar Company.


Could it also be one of the stations?

tom

--
KEEP CALM and CARRY ON


Could it also be one of the stations?

toWould save on the cost of a bus shelter at least! What has it come
to when such penny pinching measures are required?

Tom Anderson November 8th 09 03:19 PM

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Peter Masson wrote:

"Tom Anderson" wrote

Does it really make sense to have a dedicated maintenance facility just for
this one tram? Or when we say 'depot', do we mean 'somewhere to sleep at
night plus somewhere for light maintenance eg changing the light bulbs',
with heavy work being done at an existing major depot reached by rail or
low-loader?


We have the precedent of the Stourbridge PPMs, which have their own
little shed at the Junction. For that matter, Waterloo (W&C) manages all
the maintenance for the W&C trains, except when, after around 15 years,
they had to be craned out and taken away for overhaul. And Ryde shed
copes with maintaining the 70-year-old Island Line stock.


Waterloo and Ryde lack rail connections - or easy low-loader access - to
the rest of the network, so there, sending trains away for regular work
would be exorbitantly expensive, hence having their own little heavy
workshops makes sense.

I'm afraid i'm not familiar with Stourbridge, its trains, or its acronyms.
Although on googling, i find this is one of those clever Parry People
Mover things. My questions there are (a) is all maintenance handled at the
local depot, or do they ever go elsewhere, (b) are the vehicles so
different to normal trains that there would be no cost saving in
co-locating their workshop with a normal train depot and (c) is this at
all an artifact of this being a bit of an experimental pilot scheme?

tom

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KEEP CALM and CARRY ON

D7666 November 8th 09 05:26 PM

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 
On Nov 8, 4:04*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:

Given that a passing loop is apparently one of the main reasons for the
project, I suspect there may be more than one tram :)


I restate my suggestion the depot *is* the passing loop in a shed. Less
pointwork needed. If VER can do it, so can the Hertfordshire Interurban
Electric Tramcar Company.


Could it also be one of the stations?


I did in fact suggest that upthread.

--
Nick

Tom Anderson November 8th 09 06:52 PM

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, D7666 wrote:

On Nov 8, 4:04*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:

Given that a passing loop is apparently one of the main reasons for the
project, I suspect there may be more than one tram :)

I restate my suggestion the depot *is* the passing loop in a shed. Less
pointwork needed. If VER can do it, so can the Hertfordshire Interurban
Electric Tramcar Company.


Could it also be one of the stations?


I did in fact suggest that upthread.


Your ideas are intriguing to me and i wish to subscribe to your RSS feed.

tom

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