Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 

Bonsoir!

D7666 wrote:

It is about the 42nd time I've mentioned Avanto in various thread in
this forum over recent years, yet every new thread about tram/trains
trots out the same uninformed drivel about perceived 25 kV / 750 V
trams not exisitng, need to re-wire 25 kV to 750 V etc, when they do
exist and are well proven. There are even electro-diesel options
although not sure if any of those have actually been built yet.

You can go to Alstom, last type on the following page:

http://www.railfaneurope.net/list/ge...rmany_rbk.html

Cheers,

Johannes.

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 

"Arthur Figgis" wrote in message
o.uk...
Tom Anderson wrote:

Does it really make sense to have a dedicated maintenance facility just
for this one tram?

Given that a passing loop is apparently one of the main reasons for the
project, I suspect there may be more than one tram :)


--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Sorry what project. Watford needs another expensive talking shop like a hole
in the head.

Kevin

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
rth.li...
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Peter Masson wrote:

"Tom Anderson" wrote

Does it really make sense to have a dedicated maintenance facility just
for
this one tram? Or when we say 'depot', do we mean 'somewhere to sleep at
night plus somewhere for light maintenance eg changing the light bulbs',
with heavy work being done at an existing major depot reached by rail or
low-loader?

We have the precedent of the Stourbridge PPMs, which have their own
little shed at the Junction. For that matter, Waterloo (W&C) manages all
the maintenance for the W&C trains, except when, after around 15 years,
they had to be craned out and taken away for overhaul. And Ryde shed
copes with maintaining the 70-year-old Island Line stock.

Waterloo and Ryde lack rail connections - or easy low-loader access - to
the rest of the network, so there, sending trains away for regular work
would be exorbitantly expensive, hence having their own little heavy
workshops makes sense.

I'm afraid i'm not familiar with Stourbridge, its trains, or its acronyms.
Although on googling, i find this is one of those clever Parry People
Mover things. My questions there are (a) is all maintenance handled at the
local depot, or do they ever go elsewhere,

They seem to go back to Parry for warranty "adjustments", but AIUI
refuelling and minor servicing do occur at their little shed.

(b) are the vehicles so
different to normal trains that there would be no cost saving in
co-locating their workshop with a normal train depot

Probably, more to the point, as the cars do not conform AIUI to railway
vehicle standards, they cannot be operated as a normal working over the
network. Access to the mainline is indirect.

The design of several aspects of the vehicles, especially the electrics, was
changed to conform to rail industry practice rather than bus industry
practice - so that attention could be given if needed at rail depots.


and (c) is this at
all an artifact of this being a bit of an experimental pilot scheme?

In part, yes.


tom

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KEEP CALM and CARRY ON

DW downunder

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 

Consultation on the Abbey Line tram-trains has now started.

Details at :- http://www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/open/2010-05/

Burkey

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 

On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:57:40 GMT, "Peter Lawrence"
wrote:

On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:32:06 -0800 (PST), burkey
wrote:

Consultation on the Abbey Line tram-trains has now started.

Details at :- http://www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/open/2010-05/

Thanks. However my computer tells me the consultation pdf is damaged.
Has anyone else met this problem?


No, it worked fine for me. I use Adobe Reader 9.1.0.

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 

On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:32:06 -0800 (PST), burkey
wrote:

Consultation on the Abbey Line tram-trains has now started.

Details at :- http://www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/open/2010-05/

Thanks. However my computer tells me the consultation pdf is damaged.
Has anyone else met this problem?
--
Peter Lawrence

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 

On 7 Jan, 20:57, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:32:06 -0800 (PST), burkey

wrote:
Consultation on the Abbey Line tram-trains has now started.

Details at :-http://www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/open/2010-05/

Thanks. *However my computer tells me the consultation pdf is damaged.
Has anyone else met this problem?

Mine tells me it's in a newer version that may not display correctly
(although it looks fine at a glance). I think by default it's using
Acrobat 7.0 rather than the latest Acrobat Reader.

Could probably save it and get the latest reader and open it from
that, if necessary.

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 

On Jan 4, 8:32*pm, burkey wrote:
Consultation on the Abbey Line tram-trains has now started.

Details at :-http://www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/open/2010-05/

Excellent. I shall be pressing for Bistrotrams at the earliest
opportunity.

http://www.rheinbahn.de/SiteCollecti...tro2_klein.jpg

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On 31 Oct 2009, 03:45, "DW downunder" noname wrote:
7) extensions would of course be on County Councillors' minds, subject as
always to business case and expenditure priorities.

DW down under

What about a diveunder under the mainline at watford junction, and
then taking over the disused rickmansworth branch, and thence to
chalfont & latimer - to take over the chesham branch of the met?

Lord Adonis announces tram-trains for the Abbey Line
 

"lonelytraveller" wrote in
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On 31 Oct 2009, 03:45, "DW downunder" noname wrote:
7) extensions would of course be on County Councillors' minds, subject as
always to business case and expenditure priorities.

DW down under

What about a diveunder under the mainline at watford junction, and
then taking over the disused rickmansworth branch, and thence to
chalfont & latimer - to take over the chesham branch of the met?

Been threaded at ukr already. Answer - cost.

DW