On 11 Nov, 16:35, "Paul Scott" wrote:
"David Cantrell" wrote in message

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 08:23:23AM -0800, Mr Thant wrote:

Here's the map at KXSP:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mjs/4089297930/

That's quite confusing - it looks like there are two seperate yellow
lines.

Personally, I always think that type of diagram should be the other way up,
ie 'you are here' should be at the bottom, with progress along the line
upwards.

Does anyone else agree?

Well, the only arrow one can see in the picture is pointing upwards,
actually.

I wonder what the previous one was like?

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:15:57 +0000, asdf
wrote:

But there won't be a frequency increase in the Kings Cross to
Paddington direction - there will actually be a slight frequency
decrease.

Though there may well be the impression of one, as the Circle Line at
the moment is so badly bunched by the end of the day that you can
easily end up with 3 trains within 10 minutes then a 25 minute gap.

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

On 11 Nov, 19:54, MIG wrote:
Well, the only arrow one can see in the picture is pointing upwards,
actually.

I wonder what the previous one was like?

Like this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mackenzieblu/2002707620/

U

On 11 Nov, 20:20, Mr Thant
wrote:
On 11 Nov, 19:54, MIG wrote:

Well, the only arrow one can see in the picture is pointing upwards,
actually.

I wonder what the previous one was like?

Like this:http://www.flickr.com/photos/mackenzieblu/2002707620/

U

Hmm. So the convention seems to be going down from the top.

I honestly wouldn't have been sure without checking.

In article ,
(David Cantrell) wrote:

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 06:02:31PM -0600,
wrote:

This would also appear to be because the Journey Planner thinks
there will still be a Circle Line service from king's Cross to
High St Kensington on 14 December! Bloody useless!

There will be. It'll just take a long time, going the wrong way roudn
the circle.

Thank you but no thanks.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article ,
(solar penguin) wrote:

David Cantrell wrote:

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 06:02:31PM -0600,
wrote:

This would also appear to be because the Journey Planner thinks
there will still be a Circle Line service from king's Cross to High
St Kensington on 14 December! Bloody useless!

There will be. It'll just take a long time, going the wrong way roudn
the circle.

Or going via Hammersmith.

No effing use for users of the Wimbledon branch!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article ,
(Neil Williams) wrote:

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:15:57 +0000, asdf
wrote:

But there won't be a frequency increase in the Kings Cross to
Paddington direction - there will actually be a slight frequency
decrease.

Though there may well be the impression of one, as the Circle Line at
the moment is so badly bunched by the end of the day that you can
easily end up with 3 trains within 10 minutes then a 25 minute gap.

I've seen that with Wimbledon trains!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:24:19 +0000, Basil Jet wrote:

wrote:

That won't be possible after 13 December. There will be no guaranteed
step-free route from Earl's Court to King's Cross.

Yes there will - the Circles will all terminate alongside the
Barkingbound platform, and the Wimblewares will all terminate alongside
the Hammersmithbound platform. (Or was it the other way around?)

Is that guaranteed? If trains arrive out of sequence (e.g., a Wimbleware
was running late at Earl's Court so a Circle snuck ahead of it into High
St Kensington), will the second Circle really wait for the first one to
depart (thereby holding up the trains behind it as well) rather than
simply taking the available track? And then the two back-to-back
Wimblewares would have a similar problem.

(It pretty much has to be guaranteed if people who can't climb stairs are
expected to rely on it.)

New York has two two-track terminals laid out like Edgware Rd: Brighton
Beach on the B and 57 St/7 Av on the Q. In both cases, cross-platform
transfers are available (guaranteed!) at the previous stop; regular
riders who need to transfer know not to wait until the terminal.
--
David of Broadway
New York, NY, USA

wrote:

In article ,
(solar penguin) wrote:

David Cantrell wrote:

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 06:02:31PM -0600,
wrote:

This would also appear to be because the Journey Planner thinks
there will still be a Circle Line service from king's Cross to High
St Kensington on 14 December! Bloody useless!

There will be. It'll just take a long time, going the wrong way roudn
the circle.

Or going via Hammersmith.

No effing use for users of the Wimbledon branch!


Not necessarily. The lifts give you step-free access to the Westbound
District platforms at Earl's Court.

Or how about Wimbledon, Waterloo, Waterloo East, London Bridge, St.
Pancras Low Level for a more imaginative step-free route...

In article ,
(David of Broadway) wrote:

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:24:19 +0000, Basil Jet wrote:

wrote:

That won't be possible after 13 December. There will be no guaranteed
step-free route from Earl's Court to King's Cross.

Yes there will - the Circles will all terminate alongside the
Barkingbound platform, and the Wimblewares will all terminate
alongside the Hammersmithbound platform. (Or was it the other way
around?)

Is that guaranteed? If trains arrive out of sequence (e.g., a
Wimbleware was running late at Earl's Court so a Circle snuck ahead
of it into High St Kensington), will the second Circle really wait
for the first one to depart (thereby holding up the trains behind
it as well) rather than simply taking the available track? And
then the two back-to-back Wimblewares would have a similar problem.

(It pretty much has to be guaranteed if people who can't climb
stairs are expected to rely on it.)

New York has two two-track terminals laid out like Edgware Rd:
Brighton Beach on the B and 57 St/7 Av on the Q. In both cases,
cross-platform transfers are available (guaranteed!) at the
previous stop; regular riders who need to transfer know not to wait
until the terminal.

Wimbleware to Kings Cross pax have of course got exactly that guarantee at
Paddington (and stations from High St) now but will lose it from December.
That is precisely my gripe.

--
Colin Rosenstiel