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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:56:20 -0800 (PST), CJB
wrote: But following damning comments from commuters unhappy with the continuing disruption, the FCC driver, who has requested anonymity for fear of reprisal, contacted the Herts Advertiser with his take on the crisis. What I want to know is why it's causing short-formings. Is there a dispute with maintenance staff as well? If not, why don't they just run everything as 8-car? When LM have run emergency timetables, the policy has generally been "everything 12-car" - why can't FCC also manage this to their maximum of 8? Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. |
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"Neil Williams" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:56:20 -0800 (PST), CJB wrote: But following damning comments from commuters unhappy with the continuing disruption, the FCC driver, who has requested anonymity for fear of reprisal, contacted the Herts Advertiser with his take on the crisis. What I want to know is why it's causing short-formings. Is there a dispute with maintenance staff as well? If not, why don't they just run everything as 8-car? When LM have run emergency timetables, the policy has generally been "everything 12-car" - why can't FCC also manage this to their maximum of 8? Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. Not a problem to explain Train prep for 4 cars not 8 cars built into the diagrams not to mention times allocated to driver 'changing ends' takes longer with 8 vice 4. 'Impact minutes" equals points not prizes. |
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On Nov 17, 9:02*pm, (Neil Williams)
wrote: What I want to know is why it's causing short-formings. *Is there a dispute with maintenance staff as well? *If not, why don't they just run everything as 8-car? I think the same question - there should be no 4cars coming off depot and no attach / detach anywhere in service (except failures of course). FCC have had enough units since Mmarch to run the entire am peak with all 8car and all but 3 (slightly extended period) pm peaks trains as 8car. Thus in theory it does seem to me if they axe 50% of trains ... and the peaks are cut back as well ... they have enough stock to run the entire emergency service 8car However, someone has posted on a other forum FCC have from the emergency timetable withdrawn all 377/5 diagrams except three 8car train (six units that head to Ashford/Gillingham that involve SET crew depots somewhere along the route that don't know 319s). Alleged this is to allow FCC to run all trains with 319s so all drivers know them ... part of the reason excessive rest days were being worked was because of ongoing 377 training, there are still of lot don't know 377s. ((Its also reported they;ve ceased 377 training)). But there are only ~20 out of the 26 377/5s actually commossiioned, so leaving the 6 they are still using thats only ~14 units stopped, and I am sure that still leaves enough 319s to run 99%+/-1% service all 8car. So I don't beelive a word of it, that FCC don't have enough stock to run whats currently advertised as all 8car. I'd need some proof - like the diagrams - first. -- Nick |
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:08:49 -0000, "12sub"
wrote: Train prep for 4 cars not 8 cars built into the diagrams not to mention times allocated to driver 'changing ends' takes longer with 8 vice 4. 'Impact minutes" equals points not prizes. Seems they need an emergency timetable, then. Or would that be admitting there is a problem?! Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. |
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On Nov 17, 9:08*pm, "12sub" wrote:
times allocated to driver 'changing ends' takes longer with 8 vice 4. 'Impact minutes" equals points not prizes.- Hide quoted text - FCC operates a regular interval servcie. All the core pattern has the same terminal time at Bedford or Brighton or Luton be they booked 8car or 4car. As for train prep diagram thats a complete ******** reason since the current emergency timetable has special diagrams. If someone diagrammed them for 4car then thats even bigger ********. -- Nick |
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On Nov 17, 9:14*pm, (Neil Williams)
wrote: Seems they need an emergency timetable, then. *Or would that be admitting there is a problem?! The emergency timetable came into force last Thursday. http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk...0timetable.pdf -- Nick |
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Any company that has to cancel half its service because drivers will
not work rest days and overtime is clearly not employing enough drivers. Interestingly First Great Western where in a similar position with Guards about 24 months ago. Andrew Haines came in and recruited enough Guards to run the service. Now if all the guards stopped working overtime I doubt you would notice any difference. First Capital Connect are in danger of losing their franchise if this carries on much longer. |
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On Nov 17, 9:17*pm, D7666 wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:08*pm, "12sub" wrote: times allocated to driver 'changing ends' takes longer with 8 vice 4. 'Impact minutes" equals points not prizes.- Hide quoted text - FCC operates a regular interval servcie. All the core pattern has the same terminal time at Bedford or Brighton or Luton be they booked 8car or 4car. As for train prep diagram thats a complete ******** reason since the current emergency timetable has special diagrams. If someone diagrammed them for 4car then thats even bigger ********. *Are* they actually running 4-cars? I've been rush-hour commuting mostly on FCC-TL throughout the dispute, and haven't encountered any. (if they're still running the one evening 317 out of Moorgate[*], then I can pretty much see why that one might run as 4-car...) [*] obviously ECS til Farringdon -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
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On Nov 17, 9:44*pm, trainmanUK wrote:
Any company that has to cancel half its service because drivers will not work rest days and overtime is clearly not employing enough drivers. Correct. The numbers that FCC have been putting out just don't add up. Quoting the letter to stakeholders ''We have already recruited 38 additional drivers to facilitate the new Thameslink route timetable introduced earlier this year and we will have 20 more completing their training during spring next year. '' The first 38 are a red herring to this issue. Those were for KO0, and ought to have bee in place by March. If they were not then that INCREASES the current problem not mitigates it. If FCC have to cut 50% of the service but need only to recruit 20 more drivers make up for this, then some simple arithmetic based on that statement suggests they only have 40 drivers in total. In other words [a] they are not telling the truth [b] are still not recruiting enough [c] have not been recruioting over a long period that allowed the numbers to fall so low. I would suggest 20 drivers per year is somewhere around their natural wastage value ... and suggest hese 20 are the bare minimum they can get away with at maintianing an alereayd below par headcount ... and are not any attempt to resolve the issue at all. -- Nick |
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