On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:40:40 +0000, Paul Terry wrote:

I suppose. I just found it strange that the station lacks an Oyster card
reader, when every other station I've been to in Zones 1–3 has one.

Until recently the only stations that have readers are the ones where
PAYG can be used.

And all gated stations (except Romford).

Tristan Miller wrote:

Is it permitted to travel between Liverpool Street and Maryland with a
Zone
1-3 Oyster travelcard? There's no Oyster card reader to touch in or out
at
Maryland, though I've made the journey both ways several times without
apparent incident. That is, going from Maryland to Liverpool Street, the
exit gates have always opened upon swiping my card, and going either way,
I've never had any money deducted from my PAYG balance.

If I were to encounter a ticket inspector at Maryland, would I be in
trouble for not possessing a valid ticket?

No problem at all. I've done exactly the same from Forest Gate for years
now.

Paul Terry wrote:

I suppose. I just found it strange that the station lacks an Oyster card
reader, when every other station I've been to in Zones 1–3 has one.

Until recently the only stations that have readers are the ones where PAYG
can be used.

I've not been surface side at Maryland for ages, but it sounds like readers
haven't been installed yet. At next door Forest Gate there have been offline
readers for some months now.

Forest Gate is going to be chaotic at peak hours as there's only a narrow
hall between the platform steps and the street and the readers are at the
side of the walls there. If everyone's going to be required to touch in then
there will be almost physical fights to get to the readers.

On 24 Nov, 00:19, "Tim Roll-Pickering"
wrote:
Tristan Miller wrote:
Is it permitted to travel between Liverpool Street and Maryland with a
Zone
1-3 Oyster travelcard? *There's no Oyster card reader to touch in or out
at
Maryland, though I've made the journey both ways several times without
apparent incident. *That is, going from Maryland to Liverpool Street, the
exit gates have always opened upon swiping my card, and going either way,
I've never had any money deducted from my PAYG balance.
If I were to encounter a ticket inspector at Maryland, would I be in
trouble for not possessing a valid ticket?

No problem at all. I've done exactly the same from Forest Gate for years
now.

Does one suppose that if the concept of the OEP can be got through the
mind of the grippers, they are going to understand the difference
between gripping before and after the travelcard boundary?

I expect that once PAYG and OEPs are introduced, all travelcard
holders are going to be fair game if they haven't got one on NR.

Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
Paul Terry wrote:

I suppose. I just found it strange that the station lacks an Oyster card
reader, when every other station I've been to in Zones 1–3 has one.

Until recently the only stations that have readers are the ones where PAYG
can be used.

I've not been surface side at Maryland for ages, but it sounds like readers
haven't been installed yet. At next door Forest Gate there have been offline
readers for some months now.

Forest Gate is going to be chaotic at peak hours as there's only a narrow
hall between the platform steps and the street and the readers are at the
side of the walls there. If everyone's going to be required to touch in then
there will be almost physical fights to get to the readers.


If you want to get an idea of what it'll be like, visit Walthamstow
Central, at around 1800 on a weekday when a train from Liverpool Street
has just arrived.

I always go to the front of the train and dawdle down the platform to
let the madness subside. Sometimes they have the fun addition of a
stall trying to get people to sign up for Mobiles/Credit
Cards/Charities. I'm surprised there hasn't been a mass brawl yet.


Christopher Griffin

On Nov 24, 12:35*am, MIG wrote:
Is it permitted to travel between Liverpool Street and Maryland with a
Zone
1-3 Oyster travelcard? *There's no Oyster card reader to touch in or out
at
Maryland, though I've made the journey both ways several times without
apparent incident. *That is, going from Maryland to Liverpool Street, the
exit gates have always opened upon swiping my card, and going either way,
I've never had any money deducted from my PAYG balance.
If I were to encounter a ticket inspector at Maryland, would I be in
trouble for not possessing a valid ticket?

No problem at all. I've done exactly the same from Forest Gate for years
now.

Does one suppose that if the concept of the OEP can be got through the
mind of the grippers, they are going to understand the difference
between gripping before and after the travelcard boundary?

Anyone in their right mind planning to travel on NR carries the Gold
Card as well, to wave at the gripper in question.

I expect that once PAYG and OEPs are introduced, all travelcard
holders are going to be fair game if they haven't got one on NR.

I expect that they won't.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

In article
,
(John B) wrote:

Anyone in their right mind planning to travel on NR carries the Gold
Card as well, to wave at the gripper in question.

What about people in their right mind who don;t have Gold Cards?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Nov 24, 1:09*pm, wrote:
(John B) wrote:
Anyone in their right mind planning to travel on NR carries the Gold
Card as well, to wave at the gripper in question.

What about people in their right mind who don;t have Gold Cards?

They've got tickets, which is where we came in.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

On 24 Nov, 17:18, John B wrote:
On Nov 24, 1:09*pm, wrote:

(John B) wrote:
Anyone in their right mind planning to travel on NR carries the Gold
Card as well, to wave at the gripper in question.

What about people in their right mind who don;t have Gold Cards?

They've got tickets, which is where we came in.

No; they've got a monthly or weekly travelcard.