On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:03:42 +0000
Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:34:40 +0000 (UTC),
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:22:43 +0000
Bruce wrote:
The firm working on the line has admitted it needs at least 10 weekend
shutdowns next year to introduce a satellite navigation signalling
system.

That'll work well underground.


There's a major national research & development project in progress
whose aims are to do exactly that - to bring the benefits of GPS to
tunnels.

Not sure if thats tongue in cheek or not as this sort of system was invented
years ago - all you need is trackside beacons that tell the train exactly
where it is.

Mind you, look at what happened to the idea of bringing mobile phone
reception to the Underground ...

Hopefully will never happen. Watching clueless girles lose their signal and
spend the next 30 seconds going "hello , hello, you there init?" once the
train goes into the tunnel is one of lives little amusements.

B2003

Bruce wrote:

The line will part-close every weekend until Christmas, when it will
shut for four days. It will also close for a weekend in January and
for four days at Easter.

And no doubt TfL will also go shutting down the Central and/or (most likely
*and*) the District whilst National Express shuts down the Liverpool Street
line and everyone pretends the 25 bus is adequate for all east London's
transport needs without even laying on extra buses.

On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:09:37 +0000, Paul Terry wrote:

The firm working on the line has admitted it needs at least 10 weekend
shutdowns next year to introduce a satellite navigation signalling
system.

That'll work well underground.

ROFL! That's a typical Standard error. They mean moving-block
signalling.

Some more dodgy journalism...

"The line, the Tube's newest, has been disrupted more than 100 times
in two years" - what's that, 100 weekends? 100 unscheduled
disruptions?

"The Jubilee line upgrade will allow up to 30 trains an hour to run at
peak times — of particular benefit between Westminster and Canary
Wharf, where it is standing room only in rush hours." So there are
seats available throughout the peaks between Baker Street and
Westminster? And after the upgrade, everyone will get a seat on the
entire line?

asdf wrote:

Some more dodgy journalism...

"The Jubilee line upgrade will allow up to 30 trains an hour to run at
peak times - of particular benefit between Westminster and Canary
Wharf, where it is standing room only in rush hours." So there are
seats available throughout the peaks between Baker Street and
Westminster? And after the upgrade, everyone will get a seat on the
entire line?

Well, the Standard has been calling for seats for everyone on the main line
peak services for the past few years, so why not? :-)

Clearly no-one at the Standard has ever realised that as soon as additional
capacity is provided pax will simply turn up earlier or later as preferred
until they've wedged the trains again...

Paul S

asdf wrote:
Some more dodgy journalism...

"The line, the Tube's newest, has been disrupted more than 100 times
in two years" - what's that, 100 weekends? 100 unscheduled
disruptions?

How about this: there were a hundred times in the last two years that
I (or some nominal "average" JL user) would have liked to use the Jubilee
line, but the presence of engineering work made the journey either more
difficult or discouraged it entirely.

Now I'm not sure it'd really have been as many as 100 times in my
case (perhaps 30-50 ... once a month is already 24 times), but if
I worked on the weekend, it's easily be higher.

#Paul

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