'Cops search war heroes' says Sun reporter John Coles in article:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003520537,00.html

This happened in Weymouth on Tuesday 11 Nov, so its OT.
Could it happen on a bus or train anywhere....?

Up to 50 passengers were locked in a First Southern National route no 2 bus
in Weymouth when the driver suspected 60 pounds of his takings had been
stolen.

The driver pulled into a stop in the town centre and locked the passengers
in while he called the police. Eight police officers attended the scene
and gave the passengers the option of being searched on the bus or being
taken in the bus to the police station.

The passengers, included a party of war veterans on their way home from a
rememberance day ceremony in their parade outfits, were lined up in the bus
shelter and publicly searched. The veterans were quoted as saying 'it was
despicable'.

The passengers were detained for over an hour, but no trace of the alleged
missing money was found.

The bus company, who maintain the money is missing, apologised to the
pasengers, but there was no mention of any recompence for the time or any
consequential loss.

A police spokesman said the driver acted correctly in detaining the
passengers on suspicion of theft and the police acted legally to detain and
search them.
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My comments:

If this happened on a London bus I think some passengers would not have
reacted as calmly as the citizens of Weymouth.

I posted a version of this story to uk.legal. under the heading
'Bus passengers detained and searched', for reaction, as I intuitively I did
not think the actions of the driver and the police were as legal as the
police maintained.

Roger.

"Bluestars" writes:

My comments:

If this happened on a London bus I think some passengers would not have
reacted as calmly as the citizens of Weymouth.

I posted a version of this story to uk.legal. under the heading
'Bus passengers detained and searched', for reaction, as I intuitively I did
not think the actions of the driver and the police were as legal as the
police maintained.

Lets say one of those passengers happened to have £60 in their
pocket. How were the police to know whose £60 it was?

On 15 Nov 2003 15:36:35 +0000, jasonr (Jason Rumney) @ f2s.com wrote:

"Bluestars" writes:

My comments:

If this happened on a London bus I think some passengers would not have
reacted as calmly as the citizens of Weymouth.

I posted a version of this story to uk.legal. under the heading
'Bus passengers detained and searched', for reaction, as I intuitively I did
not think the actions of the driver and the police were as legal as the
police maintained.

Lets say one of those passengers happened to have £60 in their
pocket. How were the police to know whose £60 it was?

I suppose it would depend on if it was in three £20 notes, or all
entirely in coins!
--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War:
http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm
625-Online - classic British television:
http://www.625.org.uk
'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic:
http://www.thingstocome.org.uk

In article , Nick Cooper
writes
On 15 Nov 2003 15:36:35 +0000, jasonr (Jason Rumney) @ f2s.com wrote:

"Bluestars" writes:

My comments:

If this happened on a London bus I think some passengers would not have
reacted as calmly as the citizens of Weymouth.

I posted a version of this story to uk.legal. under the heading
'Bus passengers detained and searched', for reaction, as I intuitively I did
not think the actions of the driver and the police were as legal as the
police maintained.

Lets say one of those passengers happened to have £60 in their
pocket. How were the police to know whose £60 it was?

I suppose it would depend on if it was in three £20 notes, or all
entirely in coins!
--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War:
http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm
625-Online - classic British television:
http://www.625.org.uk
'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic:
http://www.thingstocome.org.uk

I'd like to know how the bus driver was able to detain his passengers.
The doors have release switches, and I suspect the driver had no right
to detain the passengers anyway. What did he do - citizens arrest them
all????
--
Andrew
Electronic communications can be altered and therefore the integrity of this
communication can not be guaranteed.
Views expressed in this communication are those of the author and not
associations or companies I am involved with.

(Nick Cooper) writes:

Lets say one of those passengers happened to have £60 in their
pocket. How were the police to know whose £60 it was?

I suppose it would depend on if it was in three £20 notes, or all
entirely in coins!

Even if it is all in coins, the evidence is circumstantial, and I
doubt it would be grounds for arrest without further evidence.

Something odd with the original post on this thread,
Posted using Outlook Express.
It may be read using Agent and Google groups.
But does not appear to OE users.

I say that because I can't see it using OE and because none of the
replies (three - hardly conclusive I know) are from OE users.

The replies can be seen using OE
My other posts appear ok.
Anyone any ideas as to the problem?

Not sure what to do to correct the problem-start the thread again?
I'm reposting the original here as a reply to my original post.
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:34:35 +0000 (UTC), "Bluestars"
wrote:

'Cops search war heroes' says Sun reporter John Coles in article:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003520537,00.html

This happened in Weymouth on Tuesday 11 Nov, so its OT.
Could it happen on a bus or train anywhere....?

Up to 50 passengers were locked in a First Southern National route no 2 bus
in Weymouth when the driver suspected 60 pounds of his takings had been
stolen.

The driver pulled into a stop in the town centre and locked the passengers
in while he called the police. Eight police officers attended the scene
and gave the passengers the option of being searched on the bus or being
taken in the bus to the police station.

The passengers, included a party of war veterans on their way home from a
rememberance day ceremony in their parade outfits, were lined up in the bus
shelter and publicly searched. The veterans were quoted as saying 'it was
despicable'.

The passengers were detained for over an hour, but no trace of the alleged
missing money was found.

The bus company, who maintain the money is missing, apologised to the
pasengers, but there was no mention of any recompence for the time or any
consequential loss.

A police spokesman said the driver acted correctly in detaining the
passengers on suspicion of theft and the police acted legally to detain and
search them.
-------------------

My comments:

If this happened on a London bus I think some passengers would not have
reacted as calmly as the citizens of Weymouth.

I posted a version of this story to uk.legal. under the heading
'Bus passengers detained and searched', for reaction, as I intuitively I did
not think the actions of the driver and the police were as legal as the
police maintained.

Roger.

Roger wrote:
Something odd with the original post on this thread,
Posted using Outlook Express.
It may be read using Agent and Google groups.
But does not appear to OE users.

I say that because I can't see it using OE and because none of the
replies (three - hardly conclusive I know) are from OE users.

The replies can be seen using OE
My other posts appear ok.
Anyone any ideas as to the problem?

I use OE and saw the original post (sent 14/11/2003 18:34).
Are you sure you haven't got a message rule set up in OE which would
prevent you seeing the post? Otherwise, I think the problem must be with
the news server you are using, and should be taken up with your ISP or
whoever owns the server.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Something odd with the original post on this thread,
Posted using Outlook Express.
It may be read using Agent and Google groups.
But does not appear to OE users.

It was OK for me.

The replies can be seen using OE
My other posts appear ok.
Anyone any ideas as to the problem?

Well it could be that your newsserver never got the original post of
course (I haven't checked which one you use) but OE does have a bit of
a reputation for that sort of thing. It is most notorious for not
showing your own posts but it can do it with others too.

Andrew P Smith wrote in message ...
I'd like to know how the bus driver was able to detain his passengers.
The doors have release switches, and I suspect the driver had no right
to detain the passengers anyway. What did he do - citizens arrest them
all????

I'd like to know how someone managed to nick 60 quid from under his nose
while he was driving the bus. Unless , more likely, it was nicked while
he was parked at a terminus in which case the thief would have been long
gone. Either way , it sounds like an iffy story. My first suspect would be
the bus driver himself.

B2003