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, Sunil Sood writes Does anyone know of a website which is able to calculate whether using PAYG Oyster or an annual Travelcard is better value for an individual? I don't, but I can't see how PAYG would ever be cheaper than an annual Travelcard for somebody making the same journey for 5 days a week throughout most of the year. Although there is a big up-front payment, with interest rates at their current low levels I suspect that an annual travel card will always be cheaper - and, of course, it can also be used for shopping or leisure trips at any time without additional cost. The advantage of PAYG is for occasional travellers, part-time workers, those that often wish to go beyond their Travelcard zones, tourists, and the like. -- Paul Terry |
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:07:52 +0000, Paul Terry wrote:
In message , Sunil Sood writes Does anyone know of a website which is able to calculate whether using PAYG Oyster or an annual Travelcard is better value for an individual? I don't, but I can't see how PAYG would ever be cheaper than an annual Travelcard for somebody making the same journey for 5 days a week throughout most of the year. It used to be for me. Zone 4 into zone 1 at 2.80 each way, 5 days a week for 46 weeks a year (bank holidays and 4 weeks annual leave) is 1288 rather than 1472 for an annual travel card. In 2010 PAYG increases to 1426 which makes it close enough that a travelcard is worth it for the added flexibility. David |
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David Walters wrote
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:07:52 +0000, Paul Terry wrote: Sunil Sood writes Does anyone know of a website which is able to calculate whether using PAYG Oyster or an annual Travelcard is better value for an individual? I don't, but I can't see how PAYG would ever be cheaper than an annual Travelcard for somebody making the same journey for 5 days a week throughout most of the year. It used to be for me. Zone 4 into zone 1 at 2.80 each way, 5 days a week for 46 weeks a year (bank holidays and 4 weeks annual leave) is 1288 rather than 1472 for an annual travel card. In 2010 PAYG increases to 1426 which makes it close enough that a travelcard is worth it for the added flexibility. So any such website would need an estimate of your normal travel plus how often you took a bus rather than walking (£1.00 extra) plus how often you left for work after 9:30 or started your journey home after 19.00 (£0.60 less for each - overtime or shifts or after work evening shopping). Best case would reduce 1288 to 1012 for comparison with the annual 1472. -- Mike D |
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On Dec 30, 7:07*pm, Paul Terry wrote:
Does anyone know of a website which is able to calculate whether using PAYG Oyster or an annual Travelcard is better value for an individual? I don't, but I can't see how PAYG would ever be cheaper than an annual Travelcard for somebody making the same journey for 5 days a week throughout most of the year. As David indicates - even for regular travellers - the difference between a PAYG Oyster and an annual Travelcard can be stacked in favour of PAYG especially if one leaves work outside the 4:30pm-7pm window (thus benefiting from off-peak prices) and/or your annual leave is taken into account. I gather for 2010 most annual Travelcard prices have been frozen, while PAYG fares are going up.. - which may well alter which is the best value for any particular individual.. Regards Sunil |
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