MIG wrote:
Presumably it only ever registered that it was valid at the point
where touched. That's all they seem to do elsewhere.

Just a quick live update from this morning:

- Oyster pad not yet active on ticket machine at Bromley North (and
software not yet updated). Just as well I didn't need an OEP.

- Oyster reader by entrance had 'Out of use' sticker but gave me a green
light and 'Enter' anyway (with a season)

- New Waterloo East gateline at the top of the stairs to Waterloo Rd -
but main access to station still ungated!

- Touched out at new standalone readers on the Waterloo footbridge. Big
new overhead sign 'Card users touch here'.

So clearly not all parts of the network were quite ready for 2nd Jan...


--
Current nearest station:

Rupert Candy wrote:
MIG wrote:
Presumably it only ever registered that it was valid at the point
where touched. That's all they seem to do elsewhere.

Just a quick live update from this morning:

- Oyster pad not yet active on ticket machine at Bromley North (and
software not yet updated). Just as well I didn't need an OEP.

- Oyster reader by entrance had 'Out of use' sticker but gave me a
green
light and 'Enter' anyway (with a season)

- New Waterloo East gateline at the top of the stairs to Waterloo Rd -
but main access to station still ungated!

- Touched out at new standalone readers on the Waterloo footbridge.
Big
new overhead sign 'Card users touch here'.

So clearly not all parts of the network were quite ready for 2nd
Jan...

The experiment continues- successfully set an OEP at one of the small
machines at Pimlico, and now on the way to Feltham via Vauxhall, where
we'll see what happens.
--
Current nearest station: Clapham Jn

On 4 Jan, 12:33, Rupert Candy wrote:
Rupert Candy wrote:
MIG wrote:
Presumably it only ever registered that it was valid at the point
where touched. *That's all they seem to do elsewhere.

Just a quick live update from this morning:

- Oyster pad not yet active on ticket machine at Bromley North (and
software not yet updated). Just as well I didn't need an OEP.

- Oyster reader by entrance had 'Out of use' sticker but gave me a
green
light and 'Enter' anyway (with a season)

- New Waterloo East gateline at the top of the stairs to Waterloo Rd -
but main access to station still ungated!

- Touched out at new standalone readers on the Waterloo footbridge.
Big
new overhead sign 'Card users touch here'.

So clearly not all parts of the network were quite ready for 2nd
Jan...

The experiment continues- successfully set an OEP at one of the small
machines at Pimlico, and now on the way to Feltham via Vauxhall, where
we'll see what happens.
--
Current nearest station: Clapham Jn-

Is Vauxhall outside your zones?

If not, the OEP won't be unset at Vauxhall (even if you exited via NR,
but you'd be exiting via LU presumably, which should never unset the
OEP, should it?).

If so, a completely out of zone journey will start at Vauxhall NR and
not need the OEP, leaving it intact presumably (how does one tell?).

MIG wrote:
On 4 Jan, 12:33, Rupert Candy wrote:
Rupert Candy wrote:
MIG wrote:
Presumably it only ever registered that it was valid at the
point
where touched. That's all they seem to do elsewhere.

Just a quick live update from this morning:

- Oyster pad not yet active on ticket machine at Bromley North
(and
software not yet updated). Just as well I didn't need an OEP.

- Oyster reader by entrance had 'Out of use' sticker but gave me a
green
light and 'Enter' anyway (with a season)

- New Waterloo East gateline at the top of the stairs to Waterloo
Rd -
but main access to station still ungated!

- Touched out at new standalone readers on the Waterloo
footbridge.
Big
new overhead sign 'Card users touch here'.

So clearly not all parts of the network were quite ready for 2nd
Jan...

The experiment continues- successfully set an OEP at one of the
small
machines at Pimlico, and now on the way to Feltham via Vauxhall,
where
we'll see what happens.
--
Current nearest station: Clapham Jn-

Is Vauxhall outside your zones?

If not, the OEP won't be unset at Vauxhall (even if you exited via NR,
but you'd be exiting via LU presumably, which should never unset the
OEP, should it?).

If so, a completely out of zone journey will start at Vauxhall NR and
not need the OEP, leaving it intact presumably (how does one tell?).

Vauxhall is in my zones (1-5) and is an OOSI so presumably entering
through the NR gateline shouldn't have any effect on the OEP.

At Feltham I was deducted £1.30, which was presumably the desired
effect. Might have a look at my journey history later.
--
Current nearest station: Heathrow Central

Rupert Candy wrote:

Just a quick live update from this morning:

From a short journey today:

Forest Gate - poster up telling us we can now use PAYG on national rail. No
Oyster pad has been added to the one ticket machine at the station (even
though it has a circle that is clearly intended for one) or at the ticket
office window and there were no posters or leaflets about Oyster either in
the ticket office or in the hallway down to the platforms. Absolutely
nothing whatsoever about OEPs.

(Oh and the station was closed last week for cable repairs so this is the
first operating day with PAYG.)

Stratford - continues to be chaotic because the TfL and National Express
delineation isn't always clear to Joe Public. The NX machines in the ticket
hall don't have Oyster pads so the queues for the TfL machines and window
will just get even longer. I looked hard but couldn't find any leaflet about
Oyster on National Rail on either the TfL or NX racks.

So far two stations, including one of the main ones in East London, and zero
information.

"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote:
Rupert Candy wrote:

Just a quick live update from this morning:

From a short journey today:

Forest Gate - poster up telling us we can now use PAYG on national
rail. No
Oyster pad has been added to the one ticket machine at the station
(even
though it has a circle that is clearly intended for one) or at the
ticket
office window and there were no posters or leaflets about Oyster
either in
the ticket office or in the hallway down to the platforms. Absolutely
nothing whatsoever about OEPs.

(Oh and the station was closed last week for cable repairs so this is
the
first operating day with PAYG.)

Stratford - continues to be chaotic because the TfL and National
Express
delineation isn't always clear to Joe Public. The NX machines in the
ticket
hall don't have Oyster pads so the queues for the TfL machines and
window
will just get even longer. I looked hard but couldn't find any leaflet
about
Oyster on National Rail on either the TfL or NX racks.

So far two stations, including one of the main ones in East London,
and zero
information.

Shepherds Bush (Central) had a Using Oyster on National Rail
Tfl-produced leaflet dated 2nd Jan. It has the same wording as the
website plus a fold-out of the new Oyster Rail Services map (+ zones).
--
Current nearest station: Victoria

I tried one of the ticket machines at Euston main line today and it
didn't have an OEP option on there but it's certainly very easy to do
on an Underground ticket machine so I did that this afternoon at
Cannon Street and I touched out no problem at Charlton and it charged
me the correct fare of £1.40. On my way back though I was going to
Greenwich and the Oyster readers on the platform which gives step free
interchange to the DLR were both out of service so I had to go
downstairs to find one.

I think if these OEPs are going to work then there's going to have to
be some publicity (strategically placed posters etc.) as I know very
few Oyster Travelcard holders who know anything about them.

In article
,
(Rupert Candy) wrote:

"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote:
Rupert Candy wrote:

Just a quick live update from this morning:

From a short journey today:

Forest Gate - poster up telling us we can now use PAYG on national
rail. No Oyster pad has been added to the one ticket machine at the
station (even though it has a circle that is clearly intended for one)
or at the ticket office window and there were no posters or leaflets
about Oyster either in the ticket office or in the hallway down to
the platforms. Absolutely nothing whatsoever about OEPs.

(Oh and the station was closed last week for cable repairs so this is
the first operating day with PAYG.)

Similarly, Vauxhall (SWT) and Putney have no Oyster selling facilities,
people at Vauxhall being directed to the tube station (not too easy with a
bicycle). At least there was a poster telling people that and I had enough
PAYG credit to get me to Putney. Luckily I know a handy ticket stop nearby
there so was able to get my top-ups as desired.

Stratford - continues to be chaotic because the TfL and National
Express delineation isn't always clear to Joe Public. The NX machines
in the ticket hall don't have Oyster pads so the queues for the TfL
machines and window will just get even longer. I looked hard but
couldn't find any leaflet about Oyster on National Rail on either the
TfL or NX racks.

So far two stations, including one of the main ones in East London,
and zero information.

Shepherds Bush (Central) had a Using Oyster on National Rail
Tfl-produced leaflet dated 2nd Jan. It has the same wording as the
website plus a fold-out of the new Oyster Rail Services map (+
zones). -- Current nearest station: Victoria

That leaflet was available at Vauxhall and there were clear posters at
Putney about Oyster on NR and about OEPs.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 4 Jan, 11:01, Rupert Candy wrote:
MIG wrote:
Presumably it only ever registered that it was valid at the point
where touched. *That's all they seem to do elsewhere.

Just a quick live update from this morning:

- Oyster pad not yet active on ticket machine at Bromley North (and
software not yet updated). Just as well I didn't need an OEP.

- Oyster reader by entrance had 'Out of use' sticker but gave me a green
light and 'Enter' anyway (with a season)

- New Waterloo East gateline at the top of the stairs to Waterloo Rd -
but main access to station still ungated!

- Touched out at new standalone readers on the Waterloo footbridge. Big
new overhead sign 'Card users touch here'.

So clearly not all parts of the network were quite ready for 2nd Jan...

--
Current nearest station:

The Southwark exit at Waterloo East now has a National Rail gateline
as well as the TfL gateline. There is a small area between the two
with TfL and Southeastern self service machines, creating a strange
"landside" area with no exit other than via a gateline. The
Southeasten machine can top up PAYG, but I couldn't see any provision
for OEPs.