On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:46:46 -0000, Pete Smith
wrote:
Out of interest, I've a feeling that if a truck has a non functioning
tachometer/limiter due to a blown fuse, that this is against the
regs/laws, and the truck must be taken out of active duty until it's
fixed.
There must be quite a few on the roads in that condition I was on the
M61 the other day doing 60MPH and no less than half a dozen HGV's
went racing passed me eight wheel articulated's at that its time speed
cameras where erected on our motor ways .
Grant .

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:24:19 +0000, Grant Crozier wrote:
went racing passed me eight wheel articulated's at that its time speed
cameras where erected on our motor ways .

Yeah, cause a camera on a 70mph road will catch a truck at 65.


Chance are your "60mph" speedo was actually 50mph, and you were causing
thousands of pounds an hour in congestion from your Selfish
holier-than-thou attitude.

In article ,
says...

There must be quite a few on the roads in that condition I was on the
M61 the other day doing 60MPH and no less than half a dozen HGV's
went racing passed me eight wheel articulated's at that its time speed
cameras where erected on our motor ways .
Grant .

Car speedos overread up to 10%. It is quite feasible that your actual
speed , not indicated speed, was as low as 55MPH which is 5MPH below
the HGV speed limit. Onmy last wagon, I knew how inaccurate the speedo
was..0.5 MPH at 56MPH because the tyres were part worn.

HGVs have tacho calibration tests every two years and are calibrated to
a far tighter tolerance than a car. When was the last time your car
speedos accuracy was checked?

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Conor

Hi. This is my friend, Jack ****, and you don't know him.

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:05:40 -0000, Conor
wrote:
HGVs have tacho calibration tests every two years and are calibrated to
a far tighter tolerance than a car.
They maybe but how often are the graphs checked by the MOD ? once
every blue moon I would imagine have you ever seen or read about any
HGV driver being prosecuted for speeding on taco evidence alone .
When was the last time your car speedos accuracy was checked?
Can't tell you only had this particular car three months and in any
case the next time I get done for speeding will be my first
even the police are not bothered in the slightest about HGV's
speeding on motor ways .
I know this for a fact I was once driving on the M6 quite a few years
ago before taco's came into being and a HGV over took me at well over
70 MPH I was doing 70 at the time and he was out of sight in no time.
A friend in the car with me took his number and we called in at the
Police station just of the M6 at Samlesbury told the motorway police
that where in there and they just shrugged their sholders and said
what do you want us to do about it go chasing after him ! .
Grant .

In article ,
says...
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:05:40 -0000, Conor
wrote:
HGVs have tacho calibration tests every two years and are calibrated to
a far tighter tolerance than a car.
They maybe but how often are the graphs checked by the MOD ? once
every blue moon I would imagine have you ever seen or read about any
HGV driver being prosecuted for speeding on taco evidence alone .

The Ministry Of Defence vehicles are exempt. There's been articles
about HGV drivers being convicted for speeding on tacho evidence alone
quite a few times in Truck & Driver magazine. You can be prosecuted for
speeding up to 12 months from the date of the offence via tachograph
evidence alone. For example if your yard was in an area like mine where
the nearest motorway is 40 miles away in any direction and the tacho
chart showed you doing 56MPH within 40 miles of base you could be
prosecuted and indeed this has happened to individuals. The only
difference is it is done by the Traffic Commissioner and not a local
magistrate. This means the penalties are far higher.

When was the last time your car speedos accuracy was checked?
Can't tell you only had this particular car three months and in any
case the next time I get done for speeding will be my first
even the police are not bothered in the slightest about HGV's
speeding on motor ways .

Thats because they don't speed. Even a recent DfT study showed that.

I know this for a fact I was once driving on the M6 quite a few years
ago before taco's came into being and a HGV over took me at well over
70 MPH I was doing 70 at the time and he was out of sight in no time.
A friend in the car with me took his number and we called in at the
Police station just of the M6 at Samlesbury told the motorway police
that where in there and they just shrugged their sholders and said
what do you want us to do about it go chasing after him ! .
Grant .

Must've been a decade ago. Got anything a little more recent? HGVs have
speed limiters fitted and have by law since around 1994. Any HGV
registered after 1/1/1988 has to have a fully working and certified
speed limiter. A lorry with a defective speedlimiter sticks out like a
sore thumb and the Police DO pull them. Also we are subject ot random
roadside checks at weighbridges etc where Vehicle Inspectorate
officials check the vehicles and tachographs in the drivers possession.


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Conor

Hi. This is my friend, Jack ****, and you don't know him.

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:05:40 -0000, Conor
wrote:

Car speedos overread up to 10%. It is quite feasible that your actual
speed , not indicated speed, was as low as 55MPH which is 5MPH below
the HGV speed limit. Onmy last wagon, I knew how inaccurate the speedo
was..0.5 MPH at 56MPH because the tyres were part worn.

Or was it on a hill, perhaps? AFAIAA, speed limiters only cause loss
of power. Sudden, involuntary braking could be highly dangerous in
poor road conditions.

Neil

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