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The local council uses Haringey -
http://www.haringey.gov.uk/ but
the railways use Harringay and I've just used (probably wrongly)
Haringay.


Railways are well known for having their own dictionary as shown
by the way they spell station names- e.g. Whittle sea for
whittlesey, Fulbourne for Fulbourn

Never rely on railway spelling

Dam spill chucker Whittlesea for Whittlesey


Whittlesea was how the place was spelt when the railway came. Manea still
uses the same ending.

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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010, wrote:

In article ,

(Ian Bidwell) wrote:

"Ian Bidwell" wrote in message
...

"Graham Harrison" wrote
in message news The local council uses Haringey -
http://www.haringey.gov.uk/ but
the railways use Harringay and I've just used (probably wrongly)
Haringay.

Railways are well known for having their own dictionary as shown
by the way they spell station names- e.g. Whittle sea for
whittlesey, Fulbourne for Fulbourn

Never rely on railway spelling

Dam spill chucker Whittlesea for Whittlesey


Whittlesea was how the place was spelt when the railway came. Manea
still uses the same ending.


Not to mention Judea.

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In article i,
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010,
wrote:

In article ,
(Ian Bidwell) wrote:

"Ian Bidwell" wrote in message
...

"Graham Harrison" wrote
in message news The local council uses Haringey -
http://www.haringey.gov.uk/ but
the railways use Harringay and I've just used (probably wrongly)
Haringay.

Railways are well known for having their own dictionary as shown
by the way they spell station names- e.g. Whittle sea for
whittlesey, Fulbourne for Fulbourn

Never rely on railway spelling

Dam spill chucker Whittlesea for Whittlesey


Whittlesea was how the place was spelt when the railway came.
Manea still uses the same ending.


Not to mention Judea.


I wouldn't mention it either. It's pronounced completely differently for a
start.

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On 17 Jan, 11:17, "Ian Bidwell" wrote:
"Graham Harrison" wrote in message

news
The local council uses Haringey -http://www.haringey.gov.uk/but the
railways use Harringay and I've just used (probably wrongly) Haringay.


Railways are well known for having their own dictionary as shown by the way
they spell station names- e.g. Whittle sea for whittlesey, Fulbourne for
Fulbourn

Never rely on railway spelling

Ian


Although in this case they are correct. There are many more stations
in the borough of Haringey.
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"Graham Harrison" wrote in message
news
The local council uses Haringey - http://www.haringey.gov.uk/ but the
railways use Harringay and I've just used (probably wrongly) Haringay.



Railways are well known for having their own dictionary as shown by the way
they spell station names- e.g. Whittle sea for whittlesey, Fulbourne for
Fulbourn


In many cases, though, that's due to the fact that when the railways
were built (and the stations were named) there wasn't a single
accepted spelling of many place names.

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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:27:41 +0000, Mark Goodge
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:17:18 -0000, Ian Bidwell put finger to keyboard
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"Graham Harrison" wrote in message
news
The local council uses Haringey - http://www.haringey.gov.uk/ but the
railways use Harringay and I've just used (probably wrongly) Haringay.



Railways are well known for having their own dictionary as shown by the way
they spell station names- e.g. Whittle sea for whittlesey, Fulbourne for
Fulbourn


In many cases, though, that's due to the fact that when the railways
were built (and the stations were named) there wasn't a single
accepted spelling of many place names.

In other cases there was an established spelling but as applies in
this someone came along later and recorded/copied it incorrectly.
Rum/Rhum
Hannover/Hanover
Hazelton/Hazleton (Pennsylvania - allegedly misspelled in the
incorporation documents in 1857 and "it's too late to change it now")

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Charles Ellson wrote:

In other cases there was an established spelling but as applies in
this someone came along later and recorded/copied it incorrectly.
Rum/Rhum
Hannover/Hanover
Hazelton/Hazleton (Pennsylvania - allegedly misspelled in the
incorporation documents in 1857 and "it's too late to change it now")

Surely Hannover/Hanover is not a misspelling, but simply the English
version - cf Wien/Vienna and countless others. Admittedly nowadays in
many cases the "native" version is normally used - Brits used to refer
to Coblence, Mayence, Brunswick, Frankfort and the like.

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Peter Beale wrote:

Surely Hannover/Hanover is not a misspelling, but simply the English
version - cf Wien/Vienna and countless others. Admittedly nowadays in
many cases the "native" version is normally used - Brits used to refer
to Coblence, Mayence, Brunswick, Frankfort and the like.


Also, the German spelling of place names has changed over the years: for
instance 19th century signs often use C instead of K. I saw an old sign
referring to Cöln (not Köln) recently, and Coblenz was the usual German
spelling of Koblenz until the 1920s.

And in most cases the soft C in German has changed to Z: now "Zentrum",
formerly "Centrum".

Well-known cities often have different placenames in different
languages: Venezia-Venedig-Venise-Venecia-Veneza-Venetië-Venice for
instance.

And of course there are even alternative language placenames within the
UK (Abertawe-Swansea, Wrecsam-Wrexham, Manchester-Manceinion etc)...
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 08:59:18 +0000, Peter Beale
wrote:

Charles Ellson wrote:

In other cases there was an established spelling but as applies in
this someone came along later and recorded/copied it incorrectly.
Rum/Rhum
Hannover/Hanover
Hazelton/Hazleton (Pennsylvania - allegedly misspelled in the
incorporation documents in 1857 and "it's too late to change it now")

Surely Hannover/Hanover is not a misspelling, but simply the English
version - cf Wien/Vienna and countless others.

IOW a stranger getting it wrong.

Admittedly nowadays in
many cases the "native" version is normally used - Brits used to refer
to Coblence, Mayence, Brunswick, Frankfort and the like.

With increased foreign travel or transport of goods it decreases the
chance of confusion caused by several versions of the same placename
cropping up from different directions. In some cases the reversion to
original is almost total; apart from Stornoway and the island names my
road atlas only has Gaelic placenames in Lewis/Harris.
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In article , Ian Bidwell
scribeth thus


"Graham Harrison" wrote in message
news
The local council uses Haringey - http://www.haringey.gov.uk/ but the
railways use Harringay and I've just used (probably wrongly) Haringay.



Railways are well known for having their own dictionary as shown by the way
they spell station names- e.g. Whittle sea for whittlesey, Fulbourne for



Fulbourn


Which is correct .. but rather academic, can't remember when the station
shut down..

Never rely on railway spelling

Ian




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