On 2010-01-18, d wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:36:57 +0000
Bruce wrote:
They probably make a snap judgment to emigrate having been driven
around the bend by chronic moaners like you!

You are the very definition of a "Whinging Pom". ;-)

Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.

B2003


It's not what you complain about, it's how you do it (and to whom).

As for bad train services, I have lived, worked, and commuted in and
near both Sydney and London and, if you take a long-term view, there's
not much difference in the number of things that go wrong or in the
technical and human causes of them. And a Australian commuter has no
more power to get problems sorted out than you do.

Eric

d wrote on 18 January 2010 16:55:35 ...
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:36:57 +0000
Bruce wrote:
They probably make a snap judgment to emigrate having been driven
around the bend by chronic moaners like you!

You are the very definition of a "Whinging Pom". ;-)

Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.

Some comments on the London Tube on a TripAdvisor thread last month:
"The most efficient transport system I've had anything to do with"
"not one delay, not one closure ever.........so I am in awe of the tube !"

- both from Aussies!

--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

On 18 Jan, 19:53, "Richard J." wrote:
wrote on 18 January 2010 16:55:35 ...

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:36:57 +0000
Bruce wrote:
They probably make a snap judgment to emigrate having been driven
around the bend by chronic moaners like you!

You are the very definition of a "Whinging Pom". ;-)

Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.

Some comments on the London Tube on a TripAdvisor thread last month:
"The most efficient transport system I've had anything to do with"
"not one delay, not one closure ever.........so I am in awe of the tube !"

* * - both from Aussies!

That would count for something if there were never any delays or
closures.

In this case, it just makes them an unreliable witness. Best not to
put them on the stand.

MIG wrote on 18 January 2010 21:27:23 ...
On 18 Jan, 19:53, "Richard J." wrote:
wrote on 18 January 2010 16:55:35 ...

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:36:57 +0000
Bruce wrote:
They probably make a snap judgment to emigrate having been driven
around the bend by chronic moaners like you!
You are the very definition of a "Whinging Pom". ;-)

Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.

Some comments on the London Tube on a TripAdvisor thread last month:
"The most efficient transport system I've had anything to do with"
"not one delay, not one closure ever.........so I am in awe of the tube !"

- both from Aussies!

That would count for something if there were never any delays or
closures.

In this case, it just makes them an unreliable witness. Best not to
put them on the stand.

Unreliable? Why? It's their opinion based on probably more journeys than
Boltar manages to do, and since he only travels by tube in inclement
weather when both road and rail performance will be worse than average,
it's his evidence that is unreliable.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

"Bruce" wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:55:35 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:36:57 +0000
Bruce wrote:
They probably make a snap judgment to emigrate having been driven
around the bend by chronic moaners like you!

You are the very definition of a "Whinging Pom". ;-)

Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.


If London is so unattractive to Australians ...

... why are so many of them over here?


To make space for all the Kiwis and boat people who keep flooding into Oz,
of course G.

You'll notice that almost all in GB are Euro-Australians, and for many, GB =
the nation of family origins. So, it's natural to seek out one's roots if
one lives in an environment with so many references to "the Old Country".

For example, I was born in Luton. My late father-in-law came from South
Shields. My late father was a Brummie. My mother from Islington. My wife has
a maternal ancestor from the East End. And so on it goes.

So, Earl's Court was (is) the first stage of an Ozzie's "pilgrimage" to
'honour' their ancestors.

DW down under

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:46:03 +0000
Bruce wrote:
I have worked with many Aussies and Kiwis over the years and they all
love London, especially the Tube that seems to distress you so much.

Like most temporary workers, they probably never venture more than 5 miles
from the city centre unless its go to to the airport. The tube service in
central london is usually fine. Its out in the sticks where the problems occur
and thats where most commuters live. Unless its the circle line of course.

B2003

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:21:43 +0000
Eric wrote:
It's not what you complain about, it's how you do it (and to whom).

Try complaining to LU and see where it gets you.

B2003

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:39:36 GMT
"Richard J." wrote:
Unreliable? Why? It's their opinion based on probably more journeys than
Boltar manages to do, and since he only travels by tube in inclement

I started commuting into london on the tube in 1996 and finaly landed a job
I could drive to once more back in 2008 so I think that 12 years of commuting
hell qualifies me as having a vague clue as to what the service is like on
quite a few of the lines I've had to use in that time.

And if LU and its staff think their service is so wonderful why don't they
scrap the fares and just let people make donations in a little box at each
station based on the level of service they think they've received in the same
vein as computer shareware? I think we all know the answer to that.

B2003

Paul wrote:

Minor delays are occurring between Camden Town and Kennington via
Charing Cross due to a fox on the track at Warren Street.

Oh, for fox sake!
--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."
www.imagebus.co.uk/shop

"Brian Watson" gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Minor delays are occurring between Camden Town and Kennington via
Charing Cross due to a fox on the track at Warren Street.

Oh, for fox sake!

Also, given the location, I'd have thought the fox's purpose was obvious.