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Default Why did Thameslink by-pass Crystal Palace?

Don't get me wrong: I don't want thameslink to come through Crystal
Palace or Gipsy Hill, but I might like some other lines to be extended
and so I wander why now that so many other stations in South London
get thameslink trains stopping, these stations get none?
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On 6 Feb, 11:28, Alec 1SJ wrote:
Don't get me wrong: I don't want thameslink to come through Crystal
Palace or Gipsy Hill, but I might like some other lines to be extended
and so I wander why now that so many other stations in South London
get thameslink trains stopping, these stations get none?


I'm sure there was a time in the early 1990s when Thameslink switched
between the Crystal Palace route and the Selhurst route towards West
Croydon, all before it took over the Wimbledon loop and stopped going
to West Croydon.
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On 6 Feb, 12:59, (Paul Cummins) wrote:
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(MIG) wrote:
I'm sure there was a time in the early 1990s when Thameslink
switched between the Crystal Palace route and the Selhurst route
towards West Croydon, all before it took over the Wimbledon loop and
stopped going to West Croydon.


I swear I recll Thameslink services going right out to Guildford once as
well?


Looks like alternate services continuing from West Croydon to
Guildford till May 1994.

I have gaps in my clutter though.
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MIG wrote:
Looks like alternate services continuing from West Croydon to
Guildford till May 1994.


That agrees with my memory. It was Guildford to Luton, forming the stopping
service on the MML.

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On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 04:03:12AM -0800, MIG wrote:
On 6 Feb, 11:28, Alec 1SJ wrote:
Don't get me wrong: I don't want thameslink to come through Crystal
Palace or Gipsy Hill, but I might like some other lines to be extended
and so I wander why now that so many other stations in South London
get thameslink trains stopping, these stations get none?

I'm sure there was a time in the early 1990s when Thameslink switched
between the Crystal Palace route and the Selhurst route towards West
Croydon, all before it took over the Wimbledon loop and stopped going
to West Croydon.


There are still a handful of Thameslink services that go via Selhurst.
I think one a day stops at Selhurst, Thornton Heath, Norbury and
Streatham Common before getting onto the normal route at Streatham.
Presumably this is because trains are kept overnight at Selhurst depot.

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Alec 1SJ wrote:

Don't get me wrong: I don't want thameslink to come through Crystal
Palace or Gipsy Hill


The last time I was on a Thameslink train, I boarded at East Croydon.
passed through CP & GH, then Tulse Hill, en route to Elephant & Castle,
where SWMBO boarded, and we got off at Luton. It seemed all to be done
in slow motion.
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On 6 Feb, 12:09, Chris Tolley (ukonline
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Alec 1SJ wrote:
Don't get me wrong: I don't want thameslink to come through Crystal
Palace or Gipsy Hill


The last time I was on a Thameslink train, I boarded at East Croydon.
passed through CP & GH, then Tulse Hill, en route to Elephant & Castle,
where SWMBO boarded, and we got off at Luton. It seemed all to be done
in slow motion.
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Oh yes, that's the peak route for services to Brighton, which
generally wouldn't be stopping anywhere anyway.

But the "metro" type service, before it took over the Wimbledon loop,
used to include a stopping service to West Croydon, which for a while
went via Crystal Palace and for a while went via Selhurst.
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On Feb 6, 12:09*pm, Chris Tolley (ukonline
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Alec 1SJ wrote:
Don't get me wrong: I don't want thameslink to come through Crystal
Palace or Gipsy Hill


The last time I was on a Thameslink train, I boarded at East Croydon.
passed through CP & GH, then Tulse Hill, en route to Elephant & Castle,
where SWMBO boarded, and we got off at Luton. It seemed all to be done
in slow motion.


Thameslink services from Brighton are routed that way during the peaks
to avoid London Bridge, which is too crowded.
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Mizter T wrote:

On Feb 6, 12:09*pm, Chris Tolley (ukonline
really) wrote:

Alec 1SJ wrote:
Don't get me wrong: I don't want thameslink to come through Crystal
Palace or Gipsy Hill


The last time I was on a Thameslink train, I boarded at East Croydon.
passed through CP & GH, then Tulse Hill, en route to Elephant & Castle,
where SWMBO boarded, and we got off at Luton. It seemed all to be done
in slow motion.


Thameslink services from Brighton are routed that way during the peaks
to avoid London Bridge, which is too crowded.


Quite, but having to cross so many other routes doesn't make it exactly
quick. The train I was on seemed to stand at Tulse Hill for ages.
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