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Old February 22nd 10, 12:01 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:41:51 -0800 (PST) someone who may be Mizter T
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It's not about this being a (notional) requirement for "some trains" -
it's not about any specific trains or routes having a special
requirement, it's about what a passenger who holds a zonal season
ticket (a Travelcard) is supposed to do when they are starting from
somewhere where their season ticket is valid, but then travelling out
of the area covered by that season ticket to a destination that's
nonetheless within the PAYG-area


So, if a passenger has one of these season tickets, say for zones 1
and 2, on their Oyster contraption they are supposed to do something
more than touch it on the yellow gadgets at each end if they get on
the train at say Oxford Circus and get off at say
Harrow-on-the-Hill, if they go via Baker Street? Sounds unlikely to
me.

If I understand it correctly were they to make the same journey via
Marylebone they would need to do something different? Illogical, or
as you say rather daft.






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On Feb 22, 1:01*pm, David Hansen
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On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:41:51 -0800 (PST) someone who may be Mizter T
wrote this:-

It's not about this being a (notional) requirement for "some trains" -
it's not about any specific trains or routes having a special
requirement, it's about what a passenger who holds a zonal season
ticket (a Travelcard) is supposed to do when they are starting from
somewhere where their season ticket is valid, but then travelling out
of the area covered by that season ticket to a destination that's
nonetheless within the PAYG-area


So, if a passenger has one of these season tickets, say for zones 1
and 2, on their Oyster contraption they are supposed to do something
more than touch it on the yellow gadgets at each end if they get on
the train at say Oxford Circus and get off at say
Harrow-on-the-Hill, if they go via Baker Street? Sounds unlikely to
me.

If I understand it correctly were they to make the same journey via
Marylebone they would need to do something different? Illogical, or
as you say rather daft.


Ok, yeah, there is a difference between LU and NR trains, so in that
context your comment about "some trains" is quite valid (when those
"some trains" equate to NR trains and routes) - my apologies.

As you say, technically speaking if one was to go via Marylebone and
NR/ Chiltern then an OEP would be required.

(Given that PAYG was accepted on all Chiltern routes within the zones
before 2010, I have my doubts as to whether Chiltern would really be
too bothered about anyone doing that though.
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